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Published: Wednesday, June 6 2012 3:00 p.m. MDT

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Spanish Fork, UT

There is a shocker. This is just another reason to retire Hatch. If the establishment, which has put this nation on the precarious cliff of overwhelming debt (with no real signs of changing its ways), endorses Hatch. Why would you.
After all, Hatch is the guy who thinks that since unfunded Medicare part D (a program he championed) came under budget at 17 billion instead of 23 billion that we should pat him on the back and tell him good job.
Thanks Hatch for running up our debt by another 17 billion in unfunded liabilities and then say in the same breath that your for a balanced budget amendment. Am I the only one that thinks he is living in "crazy town"? A place where we are to believe that wrong is right and up is down?

Child of God
Ogden, UT

God bless Mr Hatch, God is answering many Prayers from all over America.
One Nation under God. No blame, Just answered Prayers.


"about seniority, whether you think seniority is an important thing for the state of Utah ... versus a new set of eyes and ears of a very talented guy."

All the seniority system has brought us is debt and decline. It scares me that the guy who voted for a 15 trillion dollar expansion of Medicare and wall street bailouts wants to be chair of the senate finance committee. I still support Governor Herbert and Mitt Romney, but there's no way that I'd vote for Hatch over the very talented Dan Liljenquist.

Syracuse, UT

Of course he did. Was this a surprise to anyone? The establishment will always protect their own. Just another reason to vote against Hatch on June 26th.

Salt Lake City, UT

Last Utah General Legislative Session for 2011, I remember seeing bill after bill sponsored by Sen. Dan Liljenquist pass the house. I was amazed at the respect he and the bills had. I was amazed at how both republicans and democrats voted for them.

For example, his 2011 SB 180 Medicaid Reform bill passed both houses with no votes against it from either party and was signed by the Governor.

With at least 7 bills, both the house and senate, both republicans and democrats all voted for the reforms Senator Dan Liljenquist proposed. In all, 9 of his bills were signed by the Governor.

We need that in Washington DC. These are the same areas that are bankrupting our nation. Again, we need Dan Liljenquist in Washington DC. Yes, we have a US Senator with 35 years of seniority, but remember that in 2011, Senator Dan Liljenquist was still in his first 4 year term. He did it without seniority.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

We need Dan Liljenquist as Senator, with new ideas and new enthusiasm and dedication to making things happen, not bask in the adulation of crowds based solely on seniority.

Hatch was a good man and a good Senator, but the task ahead is bigger than Hatch can handle.

I am disappointed that Gov. Herbert chose to endorse Hatch now, instead of remaining neutral.

Somewhere in Time, UT

Wow! It looks like the Liljenquist campaign is on the blogs in force. That's a really cheap way to get some sort of media when you have no money to pay for it.

Herbert made the right choice although I'm surprised he did it before the primary. He obviously thinks it's important enough that he needed to act.

Playa Del Rey, CA

Clearly..."It's Time" to re-elect a true leader for Utah and our nation. Dan Liljenquist and his merry band of bloggers have annoyed Utah and our entire nation long enough.

I recall Liljenquist's campaign manager bragging to me that: "Orrin Hatch will be re-elected over my dead body"...Well, all I can say is...Do you know where her funeral will be held...(Im in for the Funeral Potatoes)...

Salt Lake City, UT

Hatch does not need the Governor's endorsement to win big in the primary. Republicans will not allow a repeat of two years ago. Tea Party and Libertarian extremists should hold their own caucus meetings and conventions, and not try to hijack the Republican party. I think we are close to the day when a Hatch sponsored balanced budget ammendment will pass congress.

Nice of Dick Armee to spend some money here in Utah. But that is all the benefit that comes from the Lilenquist campaign.

Salt Lake City, UT

Wow, it looks like Hatch has cleverly lined up one volley after another. But no matter. It doesn't change the truth that "seniority" means nothing if you've become part of the problem in Washington. Therefore, in this case I'll take the "new set of eyes and ears of a very talented guy."

Spanish Fork, UT

When one of Hatch's primary campaign commercials is "you better vote for him or we might lose Hill AFB" we know Hatch has nothing new to offer other than scaring you into voting for him.

Roy, UT

Sen Hatch hasn't done it in 35 years of try, hasn't balanced the budget...why not give Liljenquist an opportunity...why should Sen. Hatch have another 6 years? Seniority is over-rated, its performance that must be front and center...performance and wisdom, and wisdom does not always measure out in number of years. My vote, at this point, is for Liljenquist. By the way, Sen. Hatch's campaign tactics are not entirely giving a truthful picture of Dan, are shaded, not forthright, which is not honorable for Hatch. Trying to buy votes with cowboy hats at the convention was just wasteful of money and indicative of what we do not need, Sen. Hatch.

Playa Del Rey, CA

Clearly, even the Liljenquist campaign knows that the end is near. Apparently all of their mad bloggers are out finding other things to do, rather than move quickly to defend their failed candidate and campaign...

Vaughn J
Kearns, UT

Liljenquist's expenditures at the convention had the same objective, draw attention to the candidate. Liljenquist's campaign broke a rule at the convention by using balloons. The rule specifies NO balloons (No specific as to free or contained balloons) yet Liljenquist had a large number at the entrance to his hospitality room.

This action suggests to me that he does not pay attention to things or control those within his coalitions. Much like not building a coalition to assist with getting retirement reform through. I wonder how much of OUR money he spent in conferring with legislators in other states on the matter, especially when studies were completed prior to his election.

Governor Herbert came to an obvious decision; Senator Hatch is the best qualified candidate for this office. He uses his intellect to make wise, possibly unpopular choices when necessary. His experience and ability to work with the multitude of officials in Washington has Intrinsic value that Liljenquist will require decades to acquire.

Does Liljenquist have the work ethic to do the job? He missed 24% of his votes and took 3 years to finish the retirement legislation.

Vaughn J
Kearns, UT


Congratulations, You hear what you want to hear. Hatch DID NOT cause an expansion of Medicare to the extent that you claim. His idea on Part D, which has cost less that expected, was to provide seniors with medication to intercede in their health issues before they became worse and resulted in increased costs to care for those individuals.

We must keep in mind that the decisions to increase the debt limit was based on the ancillary affects that would have occurred. Greater debt costs, non-payment social security (Non-entitlement program) to individuals, Market factors affecting retirement accounts of individuals, and many others. What We must look at is the individual bills that Hatch voted for that caused that expenditures which resulted in the need to raise the debt limit, Not as you indicate the one action that resulted from out of control Democratic controlled Senate.

DN Subscriber: "New Ideas" Liljenquist simply took over where others directed. What original important legislation did he push through? Not retirement reform, because it takes from the dedicated teachers and others. He simplistically became involved and took over the work of others that was in progress when he was elected.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

So Liljenquist's supporters cannot comment on the need to retire hatch without hatch's supporters trying to mock them.

C'mon Cats, Mickey168, as much as I hate to say it, you are showing all the tolerance of liberal democrats.

Kaysville, UT

Herbert may not have a Primary but he wants to win the election in the fall and must believe, now that he needs to do this thing. I hope it is beneficial for Senator Hatch. Seniority can and has been a bad thing for many people that fall into that thought process. However, even though many Senators have thought they deserved to be in that spot due to corruption or other tentacles of organizations, Senator Hatch has been an outstanding support for our US of A and especially the backbone for Utah support for 36 years. He will be a support for six more years and his influence on both sides has been good for our country and especially the State of Utah. He is not a typical soul, he has done so much for our State of Utah through every type of President and leaders in the House and especially the Senate. Even when Republicans have been in the majority in the Senate, he hasn't agreed with everything they did or wanted to do. He does believe in law and order but also the interests of the State. Dan will take 4 years to figure that out.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Just one more reason to vote for the BEST man for the job -- Scott Howell.

Salt Lake City, UT

Re: Vaughn J: You are attempting to perpetuate one of the same lies that Sen. Hatch's super PAC has been promoting again recently, just like they did before the convention. Hatch himself has attempted to promote this lie. This is the idea that Liljenquist "missed" 24% of the votes in the state senate.

A bill has to pass in both the house and the senate. Liljenquist was there every day of the session. During part of that time, he had to step away from the senate and work with the house, to make sure his pension and Medicare reform bills passed there as well. That's when he "missed" some senate votes. But if he was needed on a close senate vote, then his colleagues notified him.

To suggest that Liljenquist was somehow absent from the legislature or that he shirked his responsibilities -- when just the opposite is true -- is pretty low. If it's not an outright lie, it's very close to one.

Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: one old man Ogden, UT
"Just one more reason to vote for the BEST man for the job -- Scott Howell."

As long as the Democratic party continues to support a woman's right to abort her baby because she doesn't like it's gender Utahn's are going to continue to vote for the party that advocates for the rights of innocent unborn infants.

Don't get your hopes up for a victory in the 2012 elections.

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