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Published: Wednesday, June 6 2012 1:20 p.m. MDT

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ute alumni
Tengoku, UT

o to GO. Six more months. To think that there are still people that want obama is incredulous. The guy hasn't accomplished one positive thing. On the job training is bad enough, but he still doesn't know anything after three and a half years. Back to community organizing.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

Looks like unemployed non-union folks are finally tired of losing their jobs to accommodate the big FAT pensions of union retirees in Wisconsin. Also it looks like there is no hiding the improved Wisconsin economy since Walker took over (deficits down from over 2 billion to just over a hundred million and unemployment down from 7.8% to 6.7%). Gee - capitalism and budget cutting actually works!!!Yes sir - hope n change has been tossed out and replaced with common sense and guess what - the sun came out again!! Now watch other states take a close look at what Walker did in Wisconsin and get on board to doing the same thing!! Trouble for Obama and socialism for sure!!! Never fear through the Obama "spin" masters in his administration and his bought and paid for media (MSNBC, CNN, etc..) will attempt to either down play this or distract away from it - probably both. People in the country - the ones with brains that actually work and pay taxes - have finally wised up to the Obama facade and I think are ready to show BO what REAL change looks like come November!!

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

You folks in California, New York and the rest of the blue states; you have just been shown the way out of your economic crisis by a brave man in Wisconsin! That is what this election means!

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

I don't read as much into this recall as some of the pundits want to. A recall election is a remedy of extreme resort to remove from elective office someone who is unfit. Wisconsin voters didn't think his actions were egregious enough for removal although they surpassed the threshold of Grey Davis.

When Walker ran in 2010, he didn't run on a platform to strip public employees of basic collective bargaining rights. Those who wanted him recalled had more than sufficient cause to feel he carried out a draconian measure he kept concealed from the voters in the 2010 election.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: Craig Clark Boulder, CO
"Those who wanted him recalled had more than sufficient cause to feel he carried out a draconian measure he kept concealed from the voters in the 2010 election."

Public employees in Wisconsin wanted him recalled because their state legislature voted to curb their excessive perks and retirement benefits. There's nothing draconian about not spending money you don't have.

In California their expected budget deficit was $9B. Five short months later the deficit for the year has ballooned to $16B. Too bad they don't have the stomach to do what Wisconsin did. Sooner or later they'll go bankrupt. I'm betting it will be sooner.

@Charles
the greater outdoors, UT

Craig Clark....basic collective bargaining rights? Who defines what basic is, you?

All Walker did was make people pay their fair share! Isn't that the beat of the drum of the Liberals? People need to pay their fair share?

Love that Walker won in a landslide but according to Craig Clark, Walker and those who voted for him are unfit.

All Obama did was send out a tweet. If he thought Walker would lose he would have been to WI in a NYC 16oz minute.

Loved watching PMSNBC last night and their coverage of it. They were so gloom and doom it was amazing. Sgt Schultz (I know nothing!) was so sad faced you thought someone in his family died.

Heard the difference in the broadcast by Blizter at 9pm and then at 10pm. Again, euphoria at 9pm when their exit polls had it 50/50 and then utter contempt and defeat at 10 when they had to announce that Walker won in a landslide.

Unions had a purpose and that purpose is no longer needed.

Walker wins!
Obama will lose!

Both pluses for the nation!

Veracity
Morgan, UT

Hope and change and turned into excuses and blame...

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@ute alumni
"The guy hasn't accomplished one positive thing. "

Only because you're too busy hating to notice that Obama's worst month for jobs was the month Bush spent the first half of in office, or that we've gained private sector jobs 27 months in a row with the stimulus bill marking the shift when we started to dig out of the hole we were in.

VST
Bountiful, UT

What the Wisconsin vote says is that labor unions are no longer relevant in political elections. It is a total rejection of the entitlement-based spending policies of not only the labor unions, but also the Democrats and far-left advocates who want to promise everything for the so-called disenfranchised and forget about the taxpayers who have to foot the bill. Don't believe this? Then go read today's DNews article titled "2 California cities voters embrace pension cuts."

And I quote: "The voters yesterday in San Diego and San Jose overwhelmingly approved cuts to retirement benefits for city workers in what supporters said was a mandate that may lead to similar ballot initiatives in other states and cities buried under mounting pension obligations. In San Diego, two-thirds of voters favored Proposition B while the landslide was even greater in San Jose, the nation's 10th-largest city. With all precincts counted, 70 percent were in favor of Measure B.

"'The voters get it, they understand what needs to be done,' said San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed, a Democrat who has called pension reform his highest priority."

sammyg
Springville, UT

Any libs in a fetal position today? Get used to it.

Yesterday was the catalyst to energize a great run to November!

4601
Salt Lake City, UT

Let the Obama spin doctors repair this embarrassment. Wisconsin has finally said it: The king has no clothes.

John C. C.
Payson, UT

The Republican effort to strip unions of collective bargaining rights has the backing of Big Money. They seek next to transform universities from bastions of academic freedom and creativity into job training for workers and low-level management to run their businesses. Forget liberal arts and humanities. Don't feel. Don't understand history. Just work.

Watch for the great divide between working poor and their rich overseers to grown even greater. College degrees no longer jump the gap.

The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development recently found that the U.S. is no longer the land of opportunity. Compared with other advanced industrial nations our children are ever less likely to earn more than we do. Why? The O.E.C.D. study found that economic mobility is more likely in nations with two economic traits:

1. Greater income equality.
2. Progressive taxes.

Yes, conservatives don't believe in the redistribution of wealth downwards. But they are adamant about PRESERVING their class privilege of distributing it upward while refusing to pay their fair share of taxes.

No wonder these two policies are anathema to the big money PAC's.

They call themselves conservatives. I call them "preservatives."

Dadof5sons
Montesano, WA

This part of the big story. In California the People voted to cut the Public employees union benefits and retirements for the cities of San Diego and San Jose With the People voting over 70 percent to cut the benefits. This is just the beginning of the end for SEIU.

worf
Mcallen, TX

atl134,

You're joking, right?

George Bush hasn't been president for over three years. If you like blaming, why not Bill Clinton for the free trade agreements?

Child of God
Ogden, UT

As far as I see it, Looks like God is fighting to reinstate His mighty word back into America. It's just the beginning, A lot of Christians have been praying, And God is answering.. Look out Obama Nation. God bless America.

JoeCapitalist2
Orem, UT

Everyone wants to get something for nothing and everyone would like to be paid more than they are worth. There is no such thing as a totally fair society where everyone has the same opportunities and extracts benefits in direct proportion to their contribution.

Given all that, a large society like the U.S. can certainly survive many instances of these unfair realities. Unfortunately, it will not survive if the majority of people are able to get more out of the system than they contribute. It will collapse under its own weight.

Technology advances have acted like a huge lever that has enabled individuals and businesses to increase productivity, reduce waste, and multiply effort. These techniques are great but they only go so far. If our economy is going to improve, we need lots more people doing lots more PRODUCTIVE things in exchange for their benefits.

sherlock holmes
Eastern, UT

How the mighty have fallen. Wisconsin, a truly liberal state, voted to elect - and retain - a conservative governor.

Reasonable people, some of whom are liberal, can see when there is just not enough $ to cover the expenses.

swede1952
Smithfield, UT

Change is sweeping the nation. Rejection of Lugar in Indiana in May. Vindication for Scott Walker in Wisconsin on June 5th. The winds of change are blowing westward. Next stop; Utah, June 26th. Orrin Hatch, it's time to look into buying those golf clubs. A new day is dawning . . .

Instereo
Eureka, UT

This vote shows to me the following.

People are happy making sure that middle class won't have any more advocates with the killing of unions.

They are happy that a few people can buy an election and they should be thrilled their governor is bought and paid for by super rich individuals and corporations that like to move jobs overseas and pay anyone left behind less.

They should be comforted knowing their neighbors will all be suffering together with them low wages and little security or hope for the future.

Finally, they should be thrilled that the rich will continue to get richer and unions will no longer be able to get in the way.

One of the first things Hitler did was get rid of unions in Germany, now people can be proud that they didn't have a government official do that, they actually voted for it themselves.

California Steve
Hanford, CA

Dadof5sons:
Heads up, the unions have already sued in San Diego and San Jose. Didn't take a day.

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