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Published: Monday, June 4 2012 10:21 p.m. MDT

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1Infidel
APO, AE

Waaah! Which principles are higher? Obey the law of the land? Bloom where you were planted? Stay home and build the Kingdom? The Church is the same wherever one goes, there are temples dotting Mexico, they will be welcomed and eased into life wherever they land, so why the angst and sensationalistic handling of people being served justice? If their stolen benefits, and lawless homesteading were so important, why didn't they seek proper processes to achieve their goals?

Stealing is much easier. Justice cannot also be cheated, and must be done.

SJ Wildcat
Ogden, UT

Shame on their parents for bringing them here in the first place. That being said, it sounds like they have always known they were here illegally. They have been hiding from the law, hoping not to get caught for a very long time. They don't have to split up the family. That is a red herring. The kids can return to Mexico with them.

Ali999
Lansing, MI

"They are employed and pay taxes."
-----------------All this proves is that they're breaking yet other laws. Working here without authorization is illegal, so just how are they doing this? What did they use as proof of eligibility to work? Someone else's SS number?

Gosh-DUH
Burlington, CT

Sad situation. Although they may be good people, they clearly were not citizens and have been aware of their status since at least 1997. After 15 years, they had time to apply for citizenship. Had that process been started when they turned 18, age of responsibility, this situation could have been prevented. Why don't LDS leaders help their members make progress in this area to avoid these heartbreaking stories? LDS are to follow the laws of the nation.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The sins of the parents have been placed upon their children.

It is not my fault, or that of the U.S. government, that their parents broke our laws and brought them here illegally.

We either have laws, borders, and the rule of law, or we have no country at all, and anyone can come or go as they wish.

I am empathetic to their problems, but rather than justifying sympathy for these unfortunate people, this should be used as a lesson to reinforce the need for EVERYONE to obey our immigration laws, and avoid placing others in this situation.

If special exceptions are allowed for these individuals, then please tell me which of our laws I am free to ignore with impunity. My life would be better if I did not have to bother paying taxes, so is that okay?

Just another pro-amnesty advocacy story pretending to be news. This sort of stuff really makes we want to cancel my subscription.

DrGroovey
Salt Lake City, UT

Entering this country illegally is about the same as speeding. Yes, it is illegal, but yes, it hurts no one and is only a violation of a technical law.

All those who want to destroy families and lives by deporting people like these women really need to reevaluate their own value systems. It defies all common sense and Christian Principle to deport these women.

Rob
Logan, UT

I feel when people come here like this maybe their cases need to be handled individually. I can't even imagine the fear almost every day of wondering if you are going to be picked up and sent back to a country where there is such poverty, crime and killings. I feel compassion needs to come into play here also. If someone is here and they are contributing to their community and society then they should be able to stay. These Mom's do not know what Mexico is like. I think if I had lived in Mexico I would have found a way to get to America. I wonder if fear is what is making these people miss appointments. I don't agree that every person who is here illegally should be sent back. Only the ones who are committing crimes.

Kathy.
Iowa, Iowa

If my parents stole $2,000,000 and bought a house I would expect then when it was discovered the house would be taken from them and their innocent children would be feel the effects of that too.

If laws are not enforced then there is no civilization and anarchy deprives everyone.

It is all part of property rights and law which makes us different then Somalia.

They can return to Mexico and do rather well with their American paid education.

Danish American
Payson, UT

Sad case but eventually things catch up. This story, however, is another in a long line of stories that shows the Desert News' bias towards illegal immigration. There was a "sad" story Sunday, too. That's the worst part of the story.

Ali999
Lansing, MI

Dr. Groovey, these women violated a court order. That's NOT a "technical violation" of the law. For the rest of us, we'd get thrown in jail. Illegal immigration hurts American workers. You think the Americans couldn't have used the jobs these women were holding illegally? And who's paying for the births of their children? The article doesn't tell us who or where the fathers are. Chances are good that the US taxpayer paid for their births and possibly their care.

You might also note that the PARENTS of these women were deported back to Mexico only 4 years after coming here. If "family" is so important, then why didn't these sisters return to Mexico with their parents? Instead, they apparently remained here illegally of their own volition AFTER they became adults and responsible for their actions.

Darrel
Eagle Mountain, UT

"If my parents stole $2,000,000 and bought a house I would expect then when it was discovered the house would be taken from them and their innocent children would be feel the effects of that too. "

A huge difference here, is no harm was done to anyone. No one was stolen from, they have no criminal records, and have been in the country for going on 18 years. They have been productive members of society.

Were laws broken? Yes. Do the laws make sense? No. Should some common sense be applied here? Yes. Will anarchy result in allowing these women to stay? Probably not. What is the greater good, enforcing a law, for just the law's sake and potentially destroying a family (their kids are US citizens, and the article does not mention if they are married, but the spouses may not be allowed to enter Mexico), or allow them a process to stay here legally?

To those who went 66 mph, even if momentarily and accidentally in their cars on their way to work, did you go to the police station and turn yourself in? How is this any different?

Ali999
Lansing, MI

Darrell, multiply these 3 women by 6 million or so, and THAT's the harm that is done. What makes these women "special"? What makes them any different than 20 million or so other illegal aliens? Yes, their parents brought them here, but the fact is, the parents were deported only 4 years after coming so why did the sisters remain here the next 17 years despite the deportation order? They're as responsible for their situation as any illegal alien adult is.

Ali999
Lansing, MI

Darrrell wrote: "To those who went 66 mph, even if momentarily and accidentally in their cars on their way to work, did you go to the police station and turn yourself in? How is this any different?"
-----------------These women broke the law, received due process, and were ordered deported by a court, then proceeded to ignore that order. It's the same as speeding, getting caught, being ordered to pay a fine or do jail time, then not doing so. It's not the same as your example at all.

Janet
Ontario, OR

To those who feel no compassion in this case: "Judge not that ye be not judged." Your necks are stiff and your hearts are hard, and you make me want to cry.

DEW Cougars
Sandy, UT

If they are lds they should know what the prophet said. Obey the Law, enough said! Not being rude and if mom goes first to be deported then those kids should go with her at the same time.

Darrel
Eagle Mountain, UT

@Ali999
"These women broke the law, received due process, and were ordered deported by a court, then proceeded to ignore that order. It's the same as speeding, getting caught, being ordered to pay a fine or do jail time, then not doing so. It's not the same as your example at all"

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The difference is, once the fine has been paid, the matter is closed and the violator can carry on with his life.
Wouldn't it make more sense, to fine these women, and then allow them to start the process of receiving legal resident status? Wouldn't society be better served that way? That way Justice can have hers, while allowing these otherwise law abiding indviduals continue to contribute.

Not knowing you personally, I can only assume (and probably be accurate) that you are here due to immigration in some form, whether your first, second or twentieth generation. We are a nation that has been blessed and prospered with immigration.

On a human note, other than being born here (an action I have no control over), why do I possess a special claim on the blessings of this land, and someone else does not?

ClarkKent
Bountiful, Utah

The number one change that needs to be made to our immigration laws is to reverse automatic citizenship for infants born on US soil. If either of their parents are in the US illegally, the children born here should not become automatic citizens. That would solve the problem when deportation occurs -- the children could also be deported. It would also take away some incentives in having illegals come here to have children.

Kathy.
Iowa, Iowa

Darrel
If the children went to school they stole the time of the teacher from every legal immigrant and citizen. Not to mention the tax payers money intended for citizens.

How on earth did they work? If they did not have a green card with authorization to work? I have friends that had green cards and some could work and others could not--that is what legal immigrants do --they obey the laws so then can become citizens or stay in the country.

If they did work they stole a job of a citizen.

Who exactly paid for the births of their children if they were born in a hospital? Copper Queen Hospital in Bisbee Arizona would argue with you that illegals harm no one. From 1999 to 2004 they had $1.4 million dollar uncompensated costs for treating illegals. For a 14 bed hospital that is a staggering number. They closed their long term care facility because of it and had to cut the hours of their staff. The Tucson Weekly has an article about this catastrophe in health care in Arizona caused by illegals there.

It is not a victim less crime, every American Citizen is a victim.

Upson Downs
Sandy, UT

Ditto to all of the above except Janet from OR.

snowman
Provo, UT

It really doesn't matter how godd a citizen they are, they are still here illegally.

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