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Published: Monday, June 4 2012 7:43 p.m. MDT

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Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

With our economy on life support is it really wise to burden the taxpayers in Draper with additional debt when many of them are stuggling just to keep their heads above water?

When money is tight it is prudent to prioritize our needs. Our wants should be way down the list.

John S. Harvey
Sandy, UT

I take the opposite tack then the previous commenter. When the economy is in the tank is the best time to do something like this. Wages are low, building materials can be obtained at a much lower cost than when the economy is booming, and more contractors will bid at better prices so the tax payer gets burden with a lot less debt over time. In addition it will create jobs and spark additional economic activity.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@John S. Harvey

That is the sort of logic that would lead a person to buy 50 pounds of bird seed just because it is on sale despite not even owning a bird. Just because current economic conditions might make it cheaper than it would be otherwise doesn't change the fact that building it costs more than not building it. In otherwords spending a bunch of money is still spending a bunch of money.

I don't live in Draper so I don't have any real dog in this fight other than knowing a sham when I see one.

plyxply
SLC, UT

The residents of Draper have been paying taxes and asking the County for a recreation center for a decade, but the county has decided all of the ZAP tax money should go to the west side. The next chance to even be considered for a rec center is 5 years or more away.
This would be a great thing for the community to have a recreation center. The businesses in the city have made arguements but as a resident I would be more than happy to pay the $8 per month for a recreation center in our community.

Daniel84020
Draper, UT

Two problems. First, 2016 isn't five years away and, second, you wouldn't actually be paying $8 a month for a rec center, but $8 a month for 20 years just to build the rec center. After built, it will need to be maintained. This means either high fees for use, or subsidies, or something in between. Not to mention local business will be taxed at about twice the residential rate, and those costs will be rolled along to consumers.
And to echo Duckhunter's point, $29 million for needed improvements in a down economy might make sense, but $29 million for a luxury doesn't make sense. (And I do consider this a luxury when Dimple Dell is less than three miles away.) It's like spending $1000 at Brokestone because you "saved" 30%. Sure, it's more than it might have been otherwise, but you still didn't need any of that junk.

Daniel84020
Draper, UT

I also take issue with the mayor and council claiming they are being bullied. What, by having people strongly disagree with them? If they were getting personal threats or the like, fine, by all means let's not bully our leaders, but pointing out the flaws in their plan seems like responsible citizenship.
It makes me wonder why the mayor and council are pushing so hard for this in the first place. All of the information sent out has been very biased. Why are they advocating for a side? Why not just present the voters with a list of pros and cons and let us work it out?
They might point to the survey they commissioned, but the survey was flawed. You could've just as easily asked, "Should we charge $29 million dollars in property taxes to build a recreation center and use additional tax funds to subsidize its operation?" and the poll numbers would've been very different. (I'm not saying that's a good question; only illustrating how the question can lead the numbers.)

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