Cool Hand Luke:"Lets blame Bush, again, and again and again,
Really? What happened to taking responsibility for ones actions?"The reason people keep bringing up Bush is because the country is still
dealing with the aftermath of his decisions. Conservatives are desperately
trying to defer the blame for the fallout of those actions onto Obama, who did
not make those bad decisions. Bush gave us 2 trillion in unfunded war debt. A
housing crash and recession. Another trillion in unfunded tax cuts for the
wealthy elite. Another unfunded 800 billion in Medicare part D. Thousands of
dead and wounded in a war based on false premises. All of these things are part
of our huge deficit problem, but very rarely will any conservative own up to the
fact that it was Bush, and not Obama, who gave it to us. We are living today
with the fallout of those decisions and Bush, not Obama, is responsible for
them. Conservatives are trying to have their cake and eat it too.
Blame Obama for all his mistakes, and taking no personal responsibility for
their sides massive recklessness. Until conservatives own their massive
mistakes, people will continue to bring up Bush.
Give BO a break, he was born after WW2 so wouldn't have known much about
that. Even I thought the world was flat until I entered the 1st grade. And 57
states, well we all got confused when we went from 48 to 49 then 50. Probably
at Harvard they don't teach those things. Anyway he was into neighborhood
organizing, not US history. Also he didn't go for military service so
understandably didn't know corps vs corpse. Giving Churchill's bust
back was merely a pay back for how his father was treated. And the Queen
someday will have a real treasure of Speeches from BO's Little Ipod.
Something tells me the list is not even close to being complete. LOL.
@utahcentrist Lets blame Bush, again, and again and again, Really?
What happened to taking responsibility for ones actions?Lets rather vet
Obama, lets let him run on "His" record, which by the way is atrocious.
Why all of the smoke and mirrors? Where was he born? Where did he go to school?
With whom did he study? And why is it classified, sealed up from the American
public. Why all of the secrecy? Is he not the Manchurian Candidate? Don't listen to what Obama says, watch what he does. He's trying
like heck to make this proud country into a socialist european state. Why? Rather, I think it's time for Obama to start looking in the mirror.
Your boy Obama is a paper suit who reads everything put in front of him on his
little teleprompter. You don't think he pre-reads his speeches? It was no
mistake and no gaffe.
UtahCentrist: your point is well-taken.I note however that in
viewing Bush's Iraq War that we are only seeing what actually happened and
not what could have happened. Yes, 1000's of lives have been lost and
10,000s. but a vicious dictator who had killed 100s of thousands of his
countrymen is gone. Al Qaida is hiding in Pakistani hills and eviscerated.
Certainly Hussein would have continued his course of action and al Qaida most
certainly would have pursued its goals of reeking world devastation. While Bush
entered this war on potentially false pretenses and its consequences have not
been small, the potential is there that it stymied and stopped disastrous events
for millions.On the other hand, Mr. Obama promised us hope and
change in the previous election, was awarded a Nobel Peace Prize (for? being
black, Democrat and president?). He insisted that diplomacy was key to dealing
with our enemies and allies alike. Yet, his failure to provide a high level,
formal apology to the people of Poland is anything but diplomatic.
3grandslams,Let's call it gender profiling.
This continues to show the bias he has against Israel and how he needs a
tele-prompter to help him keep his words and not his convictions straight. He
has plenty of staff that should have caught that mistake. His political
statements against what the normal United States of America policy has been is
establishing a lot of work for the next administration to settle. I am sure the
Secretary of State is not happy to have to pursue talks with Poland over this
type of issue. The US of A and the missile defense system and our relations
with Poland have suffered. We expose them to the wrath of Russia and then
waiver and tell Poland they are on their own, more or less. Poland has been in
the middle of wars during WWI and WWII and lived under the Communist type of
rule of Russia for a long time. In May 2012, Russia's biggest military
day, Russia's top military officer has threatened to carry out a
pre-emptive strike on U.S.-led NATO missile defense facilities in Eastern Europe
if Washington goes ahead with its controversial plan to build a missile shield.
Interesting to see that some of you can complain on here about Obama's
gaffe with Poland, and then refer to the "Queen of England," and
"...bust of Winston Churchill that England gave (you.)" Queen Elizabeth
the Second is not the Queen of England. She is the Queen of the United Kingdom,
and the Commonwealth of Nations. England did not give you the bust of Winston
Churchill. Great Britain or the United Kingdom gave it to you.If
you are going to bring Obama to task, please get your bit right. (I am not
overly fond of Mr Obama, but if his gaffe is wrong, so is yours.)
Embarassing. Obama needs to do another apology tour across the world, this time
apologizing for himself. I'm sure he'd do the 58 states too if they
actually existed. Citing the Polish death camps was not a gaff, it
was intentional. So was his bowing to muslim leaders, so was his comment on
clinging to "guns and the bible". In addition to all this he grossly
supports selective gender abortions. If all that is not enough, he's
spending us into oppression. This man is as calculated and eccentric as they
come. Both parties need to get him out.
May not be festering in US media's eyes . . . does not follow that the
Polish people are not deeply hurt by this statement and lack of true apology.
LVIS:I'm sure it's been mentioned on other news sites, but
the point is that it's currently not a leading story anywhere I could find.
It's not on the front pages anywhere right now...except for here at DN.The headline here says it's "festering", and it's
clearly not.See what I mean?
I'm surprised Obama didn't immediately apologize since he's
usually so good at it.
KJB1Eugene, ORI just went to the CNN, ABC News, and Fox News
websites. No mention of this "scandal."Stay classy, DN.Hmmm. There's that tricky 'ole reading comprehension thing
again.It's been mentioned on ABC News, CBS News, the NY Times,
Fox News, the NY Daily Times....Stay well-read, KJB1.
Imagine what abuse W would have received for these slip ups. The national press
definetly plays favorites.
And Obama was a Harvard graduate? What an embarrassment to the school, and our
UtahCentrist: A point well taken. I would not justify W's errors, but I am
not convinced his Iraq decision was necessarily an error. Yes, 1000's have
lost their lives or been maimed. But a vicious dictator was killed who had
killed 100's of thousands of his own people and probably would have
continued his course of action. Al Qaida was also maimed, running for the
Pakistani hills to hide for cover. It's ability to hit and run was
completely destroyed -- thus, I suppose, saving potentially as many lives as
were lost in the war -- and perhaps dissuading many young Muslims from joining
the cause.But again one of Mr. Obama's selling points in the
previous election was his insistence on using diplomacy. Yet, we have seen very
little of it, particularly when it comes to our allies. No one has died . . .
yet . . . as a result. But for one who promised hope and change, who was
awarded a Nobel Peace prize (for what? being black, Democrat & president?),
I would expect that he would issue a high level formal apology for insulting an
entire people. Is that raising expectations too high?
Yes it was a serious gaffe that offended a close ally. However, compared to the
last presidents errors of judgment that left tens of thousands either dead or
wounded, it's small potatoes.It's instructive to observe
how the two sides will defend or attack a presidential mistake, and how
viciously, compared to the proportion of the error made. Several posters here
love to take every opportunity to denounce Obama as an foolish amateur hack. However, when compared to the truly disastrous mistakes of the previous
Republican president, Obama's mistakes and missteps are orders of magnitude
less severe. That conservatives will beat this mistake to death while defending
or ignoring errors far more grave made when their side was in charge says a lot
about how (un)seriously they take fair judgment. If you listen to conservatives
tell it, nothing bad happened until Obama took over. It's like the Bush
years didn't even happen.Politics isn't team sports.
It's not about scoring points for your side, but about the pursuit of a
better society for the most people. For all his faults and missteps, Obama is
heads and shoulders above his Republican opponents.
Well said, Cats. Everybody says stupid things, even presidents. But for a man
who declared that he was intent on using diplomacy to make friends of our
enemies, it appears he has mostly used a lack thereof to alienate our allies.
I just went to the CNN, ABC News, and Fox News websites. No mention of this
"scandal."Stay classy, DN.
Obama made an error in speech. But, the real gaffe was in not IMMEDIATELY
jumping forward and making a really serious apology. Again, he's making it
clear that he is a rookie and an amateur.
Yes, it continues to "fester" because the DN runs a screaming headline
about it on the front page.Isn't it time for another story on
how dreamy Mitt is?
RE: Ex PatYou forgot about the bust of Winston Churchhill that
england gave us as a gift, that obama returned.I am sure there are
many other gaffes.Obama is an embarassment in foreign relations.
Does he really know better than that? If he did why didn't he correct it
immediately? How about corpsman, how about 57 states, how about the ipod
(whatever)given to the Queen of England with his speeches on it, or Michelle
touching the Queen, obama bowing to the saudi prince and so many more that just
tell us that he has kids in his administration that know nothing about culture
and history. But then I don't think he does either, or he would've
immediately said, "wait a moment, sorry about that, I know how much the
Polish people suffered during the war". After all they were the
country who were promised a shield and when obama made deals with the Russians
that went away.BTW, Romney doesn't need to spend his own money.
The wrong use of just 1 word can have serious repercussions when spoken by the
President of the United States. ““Polish” death camp”
was a serious error by Mr. Obama. He does know better than that. Every
erroneous word can come back to bite you when you are in that position. To
think that Mr. Romney is spending a great deal of his own money to place himself
in that position.