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Does Romney's faith concern a quarter of Americans, or is conservative America turning its eyes to Mitt?

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  • grandmagreat Lake Havasu City, AZ
    May 28, 2012 4:43 p.m.

    Quite frankly I am concerned at so many people making religion part of this political campaign. As far as I am concerned Mitt Romney has proven himself to be able to run a business, and make a great deal of money,also to use his talents to help out the Olympics, and get them back on their feet. He has been taught Honesty and fair play all his life, which I am sure will be the same as an adult. The fact that he is LDS should surely not be a strike against him. Church members are taught from childhood, we believe in being, honest, true, and follownig the Savior. For those not LDS, this might be a good place for your thoughts to be, and those of you who have left the church, please look into your hearts and return to the blessings of the gospel, for you personally, don't take them out on a Presidential Candidate for living those principles. As I have spent this day with my Veteran husband, who served in the 2nd world war, I am very grateful for the blessings we have received as Americans.

  • JayTee Sandy, UT
    May 27, 2012 8:34 p.m.

    Ron Paul has many good ideas and positions, and I've supported him on many levels. However, it's patently absurd to declare that Romney is anywhere near as bad as Obama, and it's idiotic to say they're roughly equivalent in any way. So to Ron Paul supporters of today, know these facts: (1) Ron Paul will NEVER be president of the United States, ever and (2) a vote for Ron Paul will essentially be a vote for Obama. So if you decide to write in Ron Paul or for some other reason not vote for Romney, know that Barack Obama will greatly appreciate your efforts in helping him secure another four years in Washington.

  • JayTee Sandy, UT
    May 27, 2012 8:30 p.m.

    Funny how nobody on the left comes out and says they're concerned about Harry Reid's religion. Could that be because he always does their bidding and never conflicts with the mainstream of his party? Also, it's nothing short of sheer arrogance for one Christian denomination to declare that another Christian denomination is not really Christian. I would guess they don't pull this with the Catholics, because they figure Catholicism is too numerous and powerful, and they'd be blown out of the water before they got their boat launched. Declaring someone is off-base, a cult member, a bigot, or a racist is the ultimate fall-back accusation when you don't have any real logic to display, and/or don't have a clue as to what you're talking about.

  • sigmund5 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 26, 2012 5:48 p.m.

    People might find out more about Mormonism is the issue. How does a man like Mitt get to be a leader? The church in its adoration of bishops and stake presidents suggests he will not be a good president. He is used to having his opinions not being questioned because he is a priesthood holder. When you give good white men such power and nobody is supposed to question them that is NOT a good candidate for president.

  • rbowman838 Pueblo, CO
    May 26, 2012 5:01 p.m.

    It is interesting me to that we have elected a man that sits in the Oval office now, who has never come clean on his actual birthpace, he has been mentored by the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, who's own character is at question, and who has essentially said the Constitution, the document that he took an oath to protect, is flawed, and needs to be changed. Isn't it about time that those who love to "hate" the Mormon Church,find something besides religion to discredit Mitt Romney. There are hypocrites in every Church, whether Christian or Muslim, or Mormon. The LDS Church's First Presidency makes it veryt clear that they endorse no political party or candidate and they have done this all of my 60 years. People who join the Church do so of their own free will and choice. For those who see fit to leave it they also do this of their own choice. Why then do these people feel the need to do harm to it and anyone who remains a member. Just leave it and move on to something you do believe. Being a Mormon does not disqualify someone from being President.

  • Filo Doughboy Bakersfield, CA
    May 26, 2012 11:00 a.m.

    Antodav,

    If you are such a love-filled church, why is it that I cannot get your comment posted when I reverse the churches you mentioned, using your rhetoric and adjectives? You know, like "the hate-filled bigots in the so-called"....

    We all get it. You don't. You attacked world-wide Christianity, all of our priesthoods, ordination, creeds, shepherds, etc. the whole shootin' match. And that's okay. But when you attacked the sanctity and veracity of our Holy Bible, you seriously didn't expect us to just roll over and invite you in, did you?

    And the proof of my point is that this comment will never be posted, because the DN monitors have two standards here.

  • antodav TAMPA, FL
    May 25, 2012 5:54 p.m.

    You know, this is the reason why I dreaded Mitt Romney's nomination. The hate-filled bigots in the so-called Christian right were bound to use this as an opportunity to smear and slander the Church they despise so much…largely out of envy of the fact that they are all dying while we continue to grow and flourish. I don't need to sit here and defend Joseph Smith, the Book of Mormon, or the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ. They do so on their own independent of any man's ability to bolster them with mere words. Evangelicals can beat their Bible-a-Bible-We-Need-No-More-Bibles all they want. God is the same yesterday today and forever.

    The Gospel is true. And so is the Church. Deal with it.

  • Filo Doughboy Bakersfield, CA
    May 25, 2012 4:39 p.m.

    LDS lib/paradox,

    You call yourself LDS and then change the basic tenets of your founder? Why not start your own religion and call it LLDS, (Lib LDS)? That's the problem Biblical Christians have with Mormon Christians. Joseph Smith comes along about 1,800 years after the party starts, changes the rules and definitions, and tells the entire world of Christianity that they're ALL wrong. Where's the love, bro'?

    One man's hubris is another man's definition of insanity or apostacy...

    So when polls are taken, how about asking all pertinent questions? First being, how much do you know about the Bible? Second, how much do you know about (current) Mormonism? Third, how much do either impact your life?

    Now go vote however you wish and leave Biblical defenders to our mandate.

  • antodav TAMPA, FL
    May 25, 2012 2:03 p.m.

    The reason for all the confusion—and delusion among Romney supporters—is because of the inherently deceptive nature of polling data: people say one thing when a pollster asks them but do another thing in private. They are reluctant to openly declare their bigotry; we saw the same phenomenon among working-class white Democrats regarding Obama in 2008.

    The "coalescence" of conservatives, particularly evangelicals, around Mitt Romney is transient at best, and even so, there aren't enough of them to swing the election in his favor. Ultimately Romney still loses big time among moderates and independents, who decide elections such as these. Even if he wasn't a Mormon, which is still a MAJOR factor in normally reliable Republican states in the deep south, he would still be screwed.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    May 25, 2012 1:32 p.m.

    Conservatives have a tough conflict to get over....

    Either to vote for;
    A. the Devil himself [Obama]
    or
    B. someone that many of them believe worships the devil himself {Romney, for being a Mormon]

    tough call -
    that truely must be the choosing of the lesser of 2 evils in their minds!

  • Shazandra Bakersfield, CA
    May 25, 2012 11:52 a.m.

    Here's the conundrum before voters-

    Can a man whose DNA is FLP any way you flip it, lead our country? Add an "i" or an "o", he can reverse his core beliefs on the decision of his prophet, or for political expediency or maybe for serious retrospect. Which reason will it be IF he "evolves" to a new platform after he's president?

    Not that other men haven't done the same... But when you understand that Romney's religious doctrines are fluid, that's NOT a recipe for confidence. Stop hiding behind platitudes of assimilation. We may vote for you, but all that affects your thinking will be vetted.

    And the poll got the reasons for MR's evie support wrong. No bonafide evangelical is "loosening up" on the religious differences issue. You can put lipstick on it all day long. That issue is all about Biblical authority/inerrancy/purity. And that, friends, is where we will never equivocate. Free Bibles on our porches won't erase your Articles of Faith, at least the current set.

    I'm voting for Romney based on his politics and values. But my Mormon DNA knows his proclivities. I'm watching...

  • peabody Steamboat Springs, CO
    May 25, 2012 9:34 a.m.

    It is of no matter to me that Romney is a Mormon, I just will not vote for him even if he were a Christian.

  • xscribe Colorado Springs, CO
    May 25, 2012 8:22 a.m.

    @CHS 85: Because when you say Muslim, you imply 9/11, Yemen, and other terrorist attacks; Muslim is synonomous with bad here in America, and is used as a scare tactic. Oh, unless, of course, it's one of the many Muslim professional sports players that most people don't even kno are Muslim.

  • SparkyVA Winchester, VA
    May 25, 2012 8:10 a.m.

    Judge a man by the strength of his character, not by your personal preferences for race, color or religion.

  • Terry Sandy, UT
    May 25, 2012 12:17 a.m.

    How can anyone give these polls any credibility? The WSJ and NBC (especially MSNBC) are the two most liberal biased/slanted media found on the planet! These media outlets always appear to have the primary goal of saying anything to help the liberals get elected and to spread misleading information about conservatives/Repbulicans (Romney)! This is the same media outlet that just took out several pages of front page newspaper to talk about how Romney did a mean prank in high school and thus must be a bad person as people never change, all while disregarding the terrorists and anti Americans Obama has hung out with his whole life!
    The more the liberal media spreads this garbage, the more people realize how biased it is and that the only candidate and party they can trust is the Republicans! This is why Romney keeps going up in the polls and Obama keeps going down, he has no record to go on so his only hope is to spread nonsense rhetoric!

  • Razzle2 Bluffdale, UT
    May 24, 2012 10:30 p.m.

    LValFre "Obama is a christian. He may have once been a muslim but now all he does is bomb them! Much like our Christian nation ..."

    I'm no Obama fan but that statement is too low about my President. He helped in the liberation of two Muslim countries while we were fighting Al Quida and the Taliban. We don't bomb Islam countries. Why not support the sacrifice of our troops? The middle east is a much better place than it was 10 years ago. Thanks to our soldiers.

  • Ms Molli Bountiful, Utah
    May 24, 2012 10:10 p.m.

    "Additionally, adherents are encouraged to eat food in proper proportions and to show respect and appreciation for their food by not wasting or overindulging."

    That is seriously funny ... have you taken a good look around at obesity in Utah?

  • UtahBruin Saratoga Springs, UT
    May 24, 2012 9:21 p.m.

    @ ClarkKent

    Hey Superman, you have to read the comments and understand them before you pop off. You can't just speak your mind on someone's comment when you have not read it to understand it. You have to read the article, read the previous statements, and most importantly you have to understand both. This is an open forum, nothing is directed right at you unless you are called out as I did a few others and you have me. I have explained myself twice now. I am sorry you do not understand, you obviously view politics on a whim or you and any of the others would have caught my sarcasm mainly with the health insurance statement mixed with the others. Just relax. I could care less what you or the President's religion or faith is. Read all of my first comment, it makes sense. I even prefaced it for you to help you understand, and many of you have accused me of being wrong. Relax, you are going to get way to worked up. Have a great day!

  • Dadof5sons Montesano, WA
    May 24, 2012 5:58 p.m.

    The only people who make this a concern are the narrow minded bigots who are so ignorant to anything out side of their feeble minds.

  • Demiurge San Diego, CA
    May 24, 2012 5:48 p.m.

    Of course religion matters. The thought processes of the candidate are of concern.

  • donn layton, UT
    May 24, 2012 5:15 p.m.

    RE: He defended Romney from "anti-Mormon" attacks.

    Anti-Mormon versus anti-Mormonism. This ad hominem fallacy is called Poisoning the Well. It involves a preemptive attack on a person. Instead of responding to their arguments by questioning their character, a person committing this fallacy "poisons the well" by making them appear bad before they even have a chance to say anything.

    I am married to a Mormon and I have many wonderful Mormon family members and neighbors,We get along great. the issue is not anti-Mormons but the ‘ism” or Mormon theology that Christians disagree with,and they know I'm a Bible beleiving Christian.

    If he(JS) that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted…(2 Cor 11:4)

  • The Professor Provo, UT
    May 24, 2012 5:08 p.m.

    Until President Obama made his political decision on gay marriage recently, he was against it as well. He said his christian faith and beliefs prohibited his acceptance of gay marriage during the 2008 campaign.
    I see that as no different than Mitt Romney's faith influencing his stance on it.

  • ClarkKent Bountiful, Utah
    May 24, 2012 4:56 p.m.

    UtahBruin
    Saratoga Springs, UT
    @ A Scientist

    "...After all, we have all accepted that Obama is a Muslim.:

    UtahBruin, who is the "we" in your statement above? Your family? Your church? Your community? Who is the we???

  • UtahBruin Saratoga Springs, UT
    May 24, 2012 4:32 p.m.

    @ atl134

    Obviously you did not catch my sarcasm with the Muslim comment, but thanks for the insults. Demonstrates who you really are as a person to judge me that way.

    @LValfre

    You missed the sarcasm as well. And we don't bomb the Muslims, never have. We bombed Iraq, don't get that confused. There was a purpose, the only thing is, I believe Bush Sr. did a better job. But that is a personal view. And don't make the statement of "Gay Marriage" a LDS thing, that is a political and personal belief issue. Regardless of his religious preference, Romney does not believe in gay marriage. And as for Ron Paul, I really like Ron Paul, I think he has a lot of great ideas. However, I don't think he would be a great president.

    @ CHS

    You didn't catch the sarcasm either. Had you really read my comment and not reacted on just the words and really understood it, you would have realized that. I don't have a problem with Obama being Muslim or even care. That was my whole point, you would have understood that had you really read my comment.

  • Laura M. Warburton Huntsville, UT
    May 24, 2012 4:29 p.m.

    Having the socialist president we have now, concerns me much more.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    May 24, 2012 4:23 p.m.

    Faith is a concern. period. Keep it away from politics.

  • Californian#1@94131 San Francisco, CA
    May 24, 2012 4:15 p.m.

    Are any polls asking what percentage of Americans are concerned about having a Democrat or a Republican as President?

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    May 24, 2012 4:13 p.m.

    "After all, we have all accepted that Obama is a Muslim."

    He says he is not, but if he was, what would it matter? Are all Muslims somehow substandard leaders? Are all Muslims not worthy of respect? Are all Muslims automatically disqualified from national positions? I work with several Muslims who are just as patriotic, just as smart, and just as respect-worthy as anyone of any faith (or no faith).

    Again, why would it even matter if President Obama was a Muslim?

  • LValfre CHICAGO, IL
    May 24, 2012 3:46 p.m.

    @UtahBruin,

    Obama is a christian. He may have once been a muslim but now all he does is bomb them! Much like our Christian nation ...

    "If anything we should all be looking at our constitution....."Seperation between Church and State." If you don't like Romney, make it because of his political background, political knowledge, political stance. Don't be concerned or hate him because he is Mormon."

    I agree about the constitution part. Romney can't separate church and state ... he's already presigned an oath against gay marriage. There's no separating life from church when you're an lds member ... it's every day every minute forever. His decisions WILL be influenced by his LDS faith and that's not separation of church and state.

    If you're concentrating on constitution, UtahBruin, take a look at Ron Paul. He's the truth you're looking for.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 24, 2012 3:40 p.m.

    @UtahBruin
    "we have all accepted that Obama is a Muslim"

    No we haven't, the people who think he's a Muslim disproportionately hate muslims, and the people who don't think he's muslim disproportionately use their brains.

  • xscribe Colorado Springs, CO
    May 24, 2012 2:58 p.m.

    @m.g.Scott: Yeah, that's what he said, those exact words.

  • UtahBruin Saratoga Springs, UT
    May 24, 2012 2:52 p.m.

    @ A Scientist

    "Is that why Mormons such as yourself take every opportunity to preach your religion? Because you are trying to convince yourselves?"

    Lame comeback, great effort, but lame. You had to know somebody would show up and have to turn this into an attack on the LDS faith. If anything we should all be looking at our constitution....."Seperation between Church and State." If you don't like Romney, make it because of his political background, political knowledge, political stance. Don't be concerned or hate him because he is Mormon. That doesn't make sense, what does being Mormon have to do with being President and running our country. I have yet to hear him say he would demand everyone to become a Mormon, or require everyone to pay for health care to support those who won't do for themselves. He is not requiring a 10% tithe to all Americans. You have to provide more and better reasons you are concerned with Romney. Make it political also. After all, we have all accepted that Obama is a Muslim. So Romney being Mormon shouldn't be a big deal at all.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 24, 2012 2:27 p.m.

    @A Scientist
    "If you do not think Romney's faith is a concern, you should."

    I left the LDS church after being a member for 4 years. I have a pretty good idea of Romney's faith... and it doesn't concern me. His policies give plenty of cause for concern but when it comes to faith... Romney's not the one I worry about. It's the Santorum types that I worry about. The only faith based thing anyone has to worry about from Romney is that he might not have the spine to veto faith based bills coming out of a Republican Congress.

  • m.g. scott LAYTON, UT
    May 24, 2012 1:57 p.m.

    Re: Kami

    One of Romneys biggest criticisms has been that he has Not kept in line as a politician with Church standards. Like when he was governor of MA.

    However Obama admitted to the Russians that if re-elected he will do as he pleases because he won't be facing any re-election. Now that is the scary thought.

  • A Scientist Provo, UT
    May 24, 2012 1:50 p.m.

    Cats wrote:

    "It's so sad that some people need to take every opportunity to bash the LDS Church in any way possible. It sounds like they're trying to convince themselves."

    Is that why Mormons such as yourself take every opportunity to preach your religion? Because you are trying to convince yourselves?

  • A Scientist Provo, UT
    May 24, 2012 1:49 p.m.

    If you do not think Romney's faith is a concern, you should.

    If you do think Romney's faith is a concern, you probably don't fully appreciate how much of a concern it should be.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    May 24, 2012 1:22 p.m.

    Lawmakers in Utah vote the way their constituents want. Many of their constituents are LDS. That doesn't mean the Church is controlling their votes. Honestly!

    All lawmakers conduct themselves based on their constituents' views and on their own conscience. Everyone's conscience is informed by a number of things including their faith. There is NOTHING wrong with that.

    It's so sad that some people need to take every opportunity to bash the LDS Church in any way possible. It sounds like they're trying to convince themselves.

  • junkgeek Agua Dulce, TX
    May 24, 2012 1:10 p.m.

    Why couldn't we simply blame Romney for being a bad candidate?

    Brother Schroeder - you may support home schooling on your own dime. For the country, it's would be a massive disaster. Thank heavens for smart people who support public schools.

  • Kami Bountiful, Utah
    May 24, 2012 12:58 p.m.

    Just as I know the LDS Utah lawmakers are very aware that their votes will be noticed by the church .. thus they will almost always vote to be in line with what they believe to be the church's position (instead of in line with what they believe the majority of Utahans may want) .. I think Romney will make his decisions in that order as well. Scary thought actually.

  • Brother Chuck Schroeder A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    May 24, 2012 11:37 a.m.

    MORE THEN 27 percent of Americans feel having a Mormon president "would cause concern" for themselves, someone in their family or neighborhood, "TAXES". The Romney campaign released a series of bullet-point proposals alongside his speech, with many ideas framed around the appeal of parental choice and control Its statement called for tying federal funds directly to dramatic reforms that expand parental choice, invest in innovation, and reward teachers for their results instead of their tenure. (That's tax and spend Mr Romney.) Parents have a sacred duty to rear their children in love and righteousness, to provide for their physical and spiritual needs, to teach them to love and serve one another, to observe the commandments of God and to be law-abiding citizens wherever they live. Husband and wife have a solemn responsibility to love and care for each other and for their children. NOT THE TAX PAYERS. Get back to "Home Schooling", allow the husband and wife have a solemn responsibility, and, teach their own kid's. Not us American's.

    He criticized Mr. Obama for failing to pursue deeper education reforms?, Obama has been unable to stand up to union bosses?.

    Who's fooling who?.

  • IMAN Marlborough, MA
    May 24, 2012 11:30 a.m.

    The answer to whether or not Mr. Romney's religion is of concern to the amrican voters will be answered in Nov.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    May 24, 2012 11:30 a.m.

    Is there any other story you guys at the D-News could possibly cover (or feature first) other than a daily pulse-taking about whether or not Mormons are accepted? Enough already!!!

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    May 24, 2012 11:28 a.m.

    I don't know if Henry's right, but it would be great if he is. It would allow Mormons to claim "mainstream" status AND blame someone besides Democrats if Mitt should come up short. Also, no blame for millionaire donors, who'll be needed as long as another election looms, which is always.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 24, 2012 11:26 a.m.

    I'm realizing my previous post might be interpreted wrong. I'm not suggesting that some bigotry is okay. Just that these numbers seem better than previous polls on the matter (16% of "you or your family" vs previous polls that were in the 20s).

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 24, 2012 11:24 a.m.

    "A new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll released Tuesday indicated that 27 percent of Americans feel having a Mormon president "would cause concern" for themselves, someone in their family or neighborhood, or someone with whom they work."

    That's not as bad as it seems since it doesn't just ask about oneself but also people they know. Considering there's maybe 4 in the family + 20 in the neighborhood + 15 you work with + yourself that's 45 people and if any of those 40 are bigots then that could trigger a yes response to the question.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    May 24, 2012 11:15 a.m.

    The good news is that Romney should help bring Mormons into the mainstream.

    The bad news is that there are still enough people in the evangelical community who will vote for a third party candidate rather than vote for a Mormon that it may very well assure that President Obama gets reelected.