As much as the rest of us Mormons hate it, I think it is so important for you
dissenters to blast the Church and try to set us in a negative light. We need
you to keep that up as long as you can to keep the rest of us from becoming
complacent. But such necessary detractors never stop the honest in heart from
finding and following the Savior in righteousness and in truth. But still, we
realize that if Satan did not oppose this work, then we would not know how
effectively we are destroying his. Onward.I am grateful for this
article. It is good to see publications try to go for honesty instead of merely
doing the typical caricature that so many have become accustomed to through
their laziness. It is great to see editors and publishers stepping up to the
Mormon moment, and making it more, including more honest to the role Mormonism
has played in American history. Thank you.
@ Cats 7:01 a.m. May 25, 2012What about those not only blindly
accept but apologize for the status quo?re: patriot"I will tell you what a myth is - The Big Bang Theory!"Myth? No. TV show. Yes and a funny one @ that. re: LValfre"CEO's don't usually have PHds ... professors do."CEO's usually have MBA's. Mitt has an MBA as did Dubya... Can
you tell whee I'm going with this?
re: LanceThruster 11:41 a.m. May 24, 2012"As an atheist, I am
saddened by how those who feel they'll have an eternal afterlife,
rationalize their dismal treatment of each other in."re: A
Scientist 2:14 p.m. May 24, 2012"The presumption that atheists
are not "honest, true, chaste, benevolent, etc." - "good people"
is the most arrogant and damaging presumption that I constantly run into among
my LDS friends, family members, and acquaintances! And most of them are so blind
to it!"Agreed. Its the mindset of "the chosen ones"
have where, As long as they go through the motions on Sunday; it doesn't
matter what they do on Mon to Sat.
Not "reinvention" but "restoration".
Probably the best way to learn about the LDS Church is....(drum roll,
please!)...Go visit an LDS Church some Sunday. Or, if you're near a
visitor's center, go there, as well. You may be pleasantly surprised, if
you've never gotten to know any Mormons live and in person.
@Gr8DaneI'm going to go out on a pretty broad limb but for
someone who criticizes atheists/agnostics (whose position on religion is
generally "I don't know") as being too confident in their
intellect, in the end I think it is you who claims to be part of the "one
true church" so who exactly is feeling confident in their intellect.
@LValfre"I would love to see the day where major newspapers really
bring to light past prophets, quotes, doctrines, etc and really drill the church
on the issues. The answers given by Hinckly and Romney in official interviews
were vague. "Yeah but things said by prophets 100 years ago
don't really have any bearing on Romney. Really the only things that should
matter are things related to Romney himself. For instance, if someone were to
ask him if he was comfortable as a missionary explaining why black people
couldn't hold the priesthood, that at least would be relevant since
it's about him and his thoughts, not what Brigham Young said about some
random thing 130 years ago.
@Patriots,"CEO's usually have PhD's coupled with heavy
law and or business experience so I think these guys and gals are pretty savvy
when it comes to sorting out a candidates worth as it relates to their bottom
line ... they see through the amateur imposters like Obama. "CEO's don't usually have PHds ... professors do.
re:skepticMyths? Why myth? I will tell you what a myth is - The Big
Bang Theory! Do you also think the New Testament is a myth? Jesus Christ a myth?
I guess it's your call but let me give you some advise - at the very least
it would behoove you to read the Book Of Mormon - the entire book - assuming you
have some basic belief in God yourself. As far as Romney is concerned - I
don't get your logic. You claim Romney is nothing more than a marketing
campaign? Really? Are you aware that CEO's all across America STRONGLY
endorse Romney? CEO's usually have PhD's coupled with heavy law and or
business experience so I think these guys and gals are pretty savvy when it
comes to sorting out a candidates worth as it relates to their bottom line ...
they see through the amateur imposters like Obama. Romney has REAL experience as
a governor , CEO, president of 2002 Olympics as opposed to Obama who is nothing
more than an empty suit sugared up by the media. Sorry guy but you are going to
have to do better than that!
It's just amazing how obsessed some of these bloggers are with attacking
the Church. They are always the first to post and attack as much as they can.
obviously, they are having a lot of doubts about their doubts and need to go on
the attack in order to justify themselves. Apparently, attempting to destroy
the faith of others seems to help them feel better about themselves. Spewing one's emotional problems all over the internet doesn't
convince anyone else. and....there is always a way back. This much unhappiness
doesn't have to be permanent.
I suspect most people could care less about Mormonism as it relates to Mitt
Romney. They care only about the economy and what Mitt can do for them.
Mormonism will only be used by Obama and his far left media as a distraction and
nothing more. Already we have seen attempts to bring up the Mountain Meadow
Massacre and expect polygamy, blacks and the priesthood, and a host of other
things to be dishonestly used as well. Mormons are not the mysterious two headed
monsters they used to be and with Mormons as pro athletes, politicians, business
leaders and entertainers now any FALSE and DEVIOUS attempt to scare people with
Mormonism simply won't work...but that won't stop Obama and HIS media
(MSNBC, CNN, NBC, Time and Newsweek) from trying all sort of dirty tricks.
The Church of Jesus Christ and it leaders are under direct relationship with God
The Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost.What ever the world
say, has no bearing on our faith.We get our orders from our God, and
thos that serve us.The Book of Mormon is the pure word of God, given
to us on gold plates, translated by Joseph Smith, Oliver Cowdery. This is
a long story, but all I will say at present time.Kaare Bye
A Scientist - Johnnylingo did not presume anything about atheists. He was
defending those who believe in Christ. I have an atheist friend who is very kind
and dedicated to serving people. I'm sorry those around you are not more
thoughtful. What in Tucket - There are just those people who would
rather exist in the shadow if a candle than benefit from its light or walk
completely away and find something different.
Kudos to Ms. Amy Davidson of the New Yorker who is encouraging respectful dialog
and consideration of the many positive aspects of Mormonism when looked at in
the light of Americanism itself. She is not recommending investigation as a
religion one must join or even to have to believe in, but rather simply as an
excellent example of American "entrepreneurship" if you will, hard work,
patriotism, building and strengthening families and the nation, and exemplifying
fortitude under pressure. All characteristics of what Americans want and need in
a Presidential leader.
johnnylingo62,If, as you say, "an eternal afterlife is
predicated on being an honest, true, benevolent person who espouses 'faith,
hope, and charity' and in following the 'golden rule' (do unto
others as you would have others do unto you) and mourn with those that mourn,
and bear one another's burdens, and clothe the naked, feed the hungry, heal
the sick..." well, then I and 99% of my atheist friends and family
qualify!The presumption that atheists are not "honest, true,
chaste, benevolent, etc." - "good people" is the most arrogant and
damaging presumption that I constantly run into among my LDS friends, family
members, and acquaintances! And most of them are so blind to it!
Looks like some of the bloggers would not be the ones to discuss the Restored
Gospel with. I can never understand why these people even comment. If they
don't believe it why bother.
LanceThruster if an eternal afterlife is predicated on being an honest, true,
benevolent person who espouses "faith, hope, and charity" and in
following the "golden rule" (do unto others as you would have others do
unto you) and mourn with those that mourn, and bear one another's burdens,
and clothe the naked, feed the hungry, heal the sick, and follow all the
teachings of Christ - how is this "dismal treatment of each other"? Maybe you're hangin' out with the wrong crowd....
The only objection to discussing Mormonism (or the LDS faith if you prefer)
would be by those who would not want it discussed in an unfavorable light,
otherwise why does the Church of LDS send out waves of young missionaries to all
corners of the globe?As an atheist, I am saddened by how those who
feel they'll have an eternal afterlife, rationalize their dismal treatment
of each other in.In my mind, Mitt is a poster boy for this sort of
I would love to see the day where major newspapers really bring to light past
prophets, quotes, doctrines, etc and really drill the church on the issues. The
answers given by Hinckly and Romney in official interviews were vague. They
weren't answered directly, as always, and you get the run around.If you have the one true church then talk about it publicly! Stop being
shamed by the past and avoiding it's discussion.
Mormonism is an interesting study in American history and a social study of how
myths are born and reinvented to evolve into religious doctrine. Mitt Romney is
an interesting parallel study of how he is reinventing himself to be legitimate
to public appeal. Both are master works of converting reality to modified
social/political man made promotional marketing models. It all goes to show the
great American dream: if one has enough money and the talent of great
advertisers She/he or it can be made to seem to be all the things they are not.