@utahcountyute+1 to what Bluto said. I love how you're trying
to take a shot at BYU's exposure when our RUGBY team was on ESPN almost as
much as the U football team was last year.Now that's just
sad.As for enjoying the 8:15 MDT start, you bet I will. I'll
be at every one of those games cheering my team on, and I'll be watching my
team play on ESPN for the away games.What will U be watching? If
last year is any indication, U may be enjoying the good ol' MWC Lite
(Versus) channel a lot more than U care to.Have fun with that.Go Cougars!
BYU is great for LDS sports enthusiasts, that's all it needs to be for me,
as I enjoy seeing athletes who have character, values, that embrace all that is
good. Are the athletes perfect? No, but they are moving in the right
direction, and I am happy to support that. I like BYU as they are, Independent
in football, WCC the rest, clubs competing with other top leagues. I trust
those responsible to make the right decisions for the future.
@utahcountyute10:15 on a Thursday or Friday on the East Coast is not
late.Their local news doesn't even start until 11:00The
Pac 12 will have many games other than on Saturday's and late night starts
are a tradition in Pac 10+ Country.It's just amazing at what
Ute fans will complain about. And for them to overwhelm the comment boards on
BYU stories just shows how insecure they really are with BYU.If they
are such hot shots, then why would they even care?They're
nervous and living under that ever loomiong ESPN/BYU Shadow of Exposure.BYU has it.....Utah does Not!
utahcountyuteCedar Hills, UTCoug1"Don't
really care because I will be at the game. You going to the Wazoo or USU game at
LES? Better leave early and get an all night sitter. Or just wait unil 1am and
catch it on byU tv. awesome."You should care since your
barometer for relevancy is tied to whether or not you think they are filler for
ESPN. Utah isn't even filler for ESPN, they are filler for KJZZ. The fact
that U didn't get that in the first place also says a lot.
Coug1Don't really care because I will be at the game. You going
to the Wazoo or USU game at LES? Better leave early and get an all night sitter.
Or just wait unil 1am and catch it on byU tv. awesome.
utahcountyute,Yes. ESPN3. Pretty good for a rugby game. Tell us all what
network is carrying the Northern Colorado game.
TruecougAre you serious? ESPN 3? The honeymoon period is clearly
over. Enjoy all that "exposure" at 10:15 ET this year on
Thurday and Friday nights... on the Mother Ship.
Naval vetTalk about a revisionist historical review of the WAC and
MWC. You are so funny. Do you help VP Biden with his talking points?I wonder if Uncle Larry will be bidding on some of theMTN's equipment?
Congrats to BYU on the Big East "discussions"!!Oh wait, or
is that Big 12 "discussions". Regardless, good luck to Notre Dame of
@NavalVet Yet apparently ESPN cares, since they showed it live on
ESPN3 and later on ESPN2. It doesn't bother me one bit if U don't
recognize it as a championship, or if it's not an officially recognized
NCAA varsity sport.UCLA and Cal (from your beloved PAC 12) both have
club rugby teams, and I'm sure they care about them.At least,
they care about them about as much as U care about your skiing teams (congrats
on all of those championships, BTW, I'm sure the PAC 12 is proud :). What
channel were the Skiing Nationals on this year? I must've missed them.Go Cougars!
truecoug1:Men's rugby is not a Varsity sport. It's a Club
sport. The Pac-12 doesn't care. The Big 12 doesn't care. The BigTen
doesn't care. The ACC doesn't care. The SEC doesn't care.I don't even think the WAC cares. How miserable for you.
@utahcountyute "Am I missing somthing?"Yes, two things.
First, Mark It Down was stating BYU has won more NATIONAL championships this
year (Men's Rugby) than Utah has won CONFERENCE championships this year
(zero). He wasn't comparing the National Championships won by both
schools.Second, you're missing an 'e' in
'somthing'. Sorry, couldn't resist on that one :)Go
Marked it"BYU won more NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS this year, than
Utah won conference championships."Please list. I show (10) NCs
for byU total, EVER. Football (84), Volleyball(99,01,04), Track
(1970), Golf(81) and Women's CC (97,99,01,02). Am I missing somthing?Utah has 22 NCAA "National Championships" Basketball
(47), Womens Gymnastics (81,82,83,84,85,86,90,92,94,95) Men's Skiing (81)
and Women (78) Combined (83,84,86,87,88,93,96,97 and 03)Another
thing. You say Utah was "unranked" and yet...54-10
@JohnInSLCYou forgot the most important stat here:Number
of BYU Articles:NumerousNumber of posts on BYU articles by Ute
fans stomping their feet and trying to get their big brother Cougar fans to
think they're relevant:Too many to countAnd that's
really the most telling stat, don't you think?Go Cougars!
TSA:Talk about selective! You forgot a couple:Head to
head record: Utah leads 52-31-4 Last 10 Years: Utah 7
wins (avg margin 21.4 pts) BYU 3 wins (avg margin 4 pts)No.
1 Draft Picks: Utah 1 BYU ZEROIdaho State College
Championships BYU 1 Utah 0
#1 SLC Sports Fan"Why should any conference want to take a
program that has been in obvious decline?"BYU won more NATIONAL
CHAMPIONSHIPS this year, than Utah won conference championships.In
fact, Utah's men never even came close to sniffing a conference
championship in any sport. If you check the overall conference standings,
you'll find that Utah's men finished DEAD LAST overall, and close to
last in almost every single conference sport in which Utah's men supposedly
"competed".BYU:Top 25 in footballTop 50 in
basketballUtah:unranked in footballBOTTOM 50 in
basketballIt's obvious that the PAC just needed a warm body;
the Utes weren't picked for anything they actually accomplished on the
field/court.For a school that is not only declining, but never
accomplished anything of note to begin with, see mirror.
JohnInSLCIt's funny how selective you are with your facts.BYU has SIX players who are members of the National College Football
Hall of FameUtah has ZEROTop 25 Finishes during the
Bronco/Kyle eraBronco 5Utah 3Top 15 Finishes during the
Bronco/Kyle eraBronco 3Kyle 1Lifetime Top 25 FinishesBYU 18Utah 7National Individual Awards WinnersBYU
15Utah ZERONational ChampionshipsBYU 1Utah 0Heisman TrophiesBYU 1Utah 0Head-to-Head during
the Bronco/Kyle eraBYU 3Utah 4Congratulations on being
BYU's little brother; it's nice that your big brother could provide U
with the ONLY highlight of your first year in the PAC.
"utah does not have any football players, or coaches, in the NCAA hall of
fame."Ducky:Wrong AGAIN. Utah Coach Ike Armstrong was
inducted into the CFHoF 1957, FORTY TWO years before the y's first inductee
Jim MacMahon--the poster boy for byu hypocrisy.LOL!"BYU fans know their program is the premiere program in the state"Bluesmack and Bluto:Losing 7 of 10 to the Utes must be really hard
to spin.Double LOL!!
Funny, I believe the U fan from the county down south and the elder seabee came
on assuming they were rebutting; however, it just seems like complete
validation. Again, I laugh at how U fans are so up in arms about a rumor that
they must come here and pontificate. Bring something new. It's the same old
tired response. I know it's grammar smack, but
seriously..."whaling and knashing." Drop the h and mix in another i then
sub out the k with a g and you're about there. Good times! Right?The only time I really read Y fans bringing up 1984 is in response to the
denigration of a NC by a disgruntled rival attempting to make some point about
something they think they somehow have to justify. (See previous poster's
attempt to do the same.)Enjoy the offseason and best of luck Utes in
your second season in the PAC 12.
Naval VetFantasy: "When the Cougars left the MWC,
they circled back to the WAC....and now the WAC is dead."Reality: When the Cougars left the MWC, they tried to form a
partnership with the WAC in the olympic sports. Except for a pre-emptive raid by
Thompson of Nevada and Fresno State, the WAC would have flourished with BYU and
the MWC would have died. As it is, the MWC, without BYU, has NO television
package and the MTN will be dead by next week.On the other hand, BYU
has an exclusive 8-year contract with ESPN, plus it's own television
network already available in 60-MILLION homes nationwide, far exceeding
Thompson's wildest dreams for the MTN.The PAC 12 invited Utah
as nothing more than a filler to have the 12 teams necessary to have a
conference championship game.If being a perennial bottom feeder in a
big boy conference helps you sleep at night...enjoy!
Brent T. Aurora CO:"Notre Dame, Boise State, Air Force and BYU
to the Big XII (soon to be Big XVI)...This is the future of college football
among an elite 64 schools -- PAC 16, Big XVI, B16 and SEC -- that will include
Notre Dame and BYU..."Haha! Clearly, you're not satisfied
with your current Indy-WACey station. But I have to laugh at your frantic and
emotional "crystal-balling" of events that "will" happen. For
starters, of the 4 teams that "will" join the "Big XII (soon to be
Big XVI)", only ONE is ACTUALLY in the discussion. The Big 12 wants Notre
Dame. So does the Big East, the B1G, and the ACC. The other 3 are not in the
discussion. Additionally, the Big 12 is ALSO taking a hard look at Florida St,
Clemson, Miami, Louisville, and Cincinnati. If all 6 teams join, the "Big
XVI" still would not include the cougars, broncos, or falcons.And of course, the whole idea of superconferences is still
"theoretical"; not a "foregone conclusion" or
"trend".Besides...you're mid-majors forever, remember?
No relevant conferences want you. Get used to it.
worf:"BYU was the life boat, and bread winner for both the WAC,
and MWC."I'm not sure how one could honestly believe that
to be true. In 1999, the Indy-WACers left the WAC to team up with 7 other
charter members of the MWC. And the WAC survived. In 2011, the Indy-WACers
left the MWC in a jealous, frantic and emotional knee-jerk fit because the
Pac-10 loved the 2-time BCS bowl winning Utes, but not the never-sniffed a BCS
bowl/postseason losing cougs. And the MWC survived.The interesting
thing is what happened to the WAC. When the cougars left the MWC, they circled
back to the WAC....and now the WAC is dead. So while the WAC could survive the
cougars' departure, they couldn't do so likewise with their renewed
association."Life boat"? Doesn't look that way.
"The conference is expected to grow to 14 teams in 2015. That's when
Navy joins for football only. Brigham Young or Air Force is expected to join
Navy, according to multiple sources at the spring meetings."Gotta laugh at our BYU-obsessed little brothers on the hill who pretend to
know so much, yet are so completely clueless.Not a word in the
article said that Holmoe, Bronco, or any other BYU officials were even
interested in joining the Big East.Except for the short time-frame
for cobbling a schedule together in the first couple of years of Independence,
BYU is doing just fine - Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, Boise State, and a couple of
PAC 12 schools on the schedule for Independence year 2, a schedule that never
would have been possible if BYU had stayed in the MWC.BYU will have
greater exposure and revenue this year, than the Cougars ever would have had in
the MWC or Big East.And, with a playoff starting in 2014,
there's no longer any compelling reason to be a member of a "power
conference" to have a shot at playing for a national championship.
jaydeeYeah, I recall a time when there were some "cages
rattled" a couple years ago when the Utes were in discussions about joining
a BCS conference. Actually I would just call it "whaling and knashing of
teeth". Good times!Nah, Utes just can't believe that the
cougies have declined so much that they are considering the Big Least.Funny thing is (regarding your little rant), the byU faithful have been
jumping up and down for years. "Look at us, we won the championship in
1984, seriously, we did! We have a trophy to prove it, we were voted the
champions. (We beat a 6-5 Michigan team and voted champions a month after the
game because there was no one else) but we won! I promise!The Big
Least would be a perfect fit.
Most neighborhoods had one, the kid with the obnoxious mother who nobody wanted
to play with and they could never figure out for themselves why.
Don't do it! Notre Dame, Boise State, Air Force and BYU to the Big XII
(soon to be Big XVI). All sports. Going to be awesome. Big East will remain a
great BB league; but the future (which ND knows) is four conference alignment in
football relevancy. And the PAC 12 will go to 16 teams as well. This is the
future of college football among an elite 64 schools -- PAC 16, Big XVI, B16 and
SEC -- that will include Notre Dame and BYU (brands with a national and
international following). And Utah, too.
Bluto Most of your statements are not true. Most BYU fas
would trade places with Utah.
Amazing how a blurb from the Philadelphia Inquirer rattles the cages of
Y-haters. It is laughable to read the multiple, consecutive inane comments
spouted by U fans who can't seem to leave that "indy, mid-majory,
irrelevant, declining school" in their rear-view mirror. I
believe the BYU brain trust will ultimately do what they feel is best. No amount
of hand wringing on the part of fans will do much to change that. Money, TV, and
corruption in the bowl landscape is still changing the face of college football.
It will be interesting to see how it shakes out in the coming months/years.It appears that no matter what happens, the fans in the little red
schoolhouse on the hill will still be stamping their feet and waving their arms
shouting..."Look at me! I'm a Fiesta Bowl Champ! Look at me! Remember
the Sugar Bowl?! Look at me!....C'mon...Look at me! I know I hated this
clique until I joined it, but, now that I'm here, look at me!...Tell me
I'm good!...Look at me!
@co uteTalk about "distorting the truth".utah
does not have any football players, or coaches, in the NCAA hall of fame. I see
you refer to alumni to try and "distort" the subject.BYU
does have just as many top 25 finishes in the last 7 years a utah does in its
history. BYU got more national exposure last year than utah got in
the last 10 years. BYU played 11 of 13 games on national tv. utah has played
that same about that same amount in that time. So I suppose "more" is a
stetch but 'about the same' is pretty accurate.
@Bluto - I am not making the statement that BYU is on the decline but I am
making a statement that you post is factually incorrect with numerous examples
that are wrong.-BYU does not have as many top 25 finishes in the past 7
years as Utah has in their history (you might recall that there are 2
acknowledged polls)-BYU does not have more exposure in one year than Utah
has in 10 years (you just plain made this one up)-Utah does have Alumni in
the college hall of fameNow for some additional comments that don't
make sense-The number of times on ESPN means nothing, USC won't be on
ESPN as much as the Y this year and yet has a better team and a better football
history-You reference on ranking of colleges, probably US News as if were
undisputed gospel. Go look at some other ranking like Forbes that don't
have the same view.I have no problem with you defending your school but do
have an issue when you distort the truth.
Levin,During the NBA playoffs a lot of the games start after 8. You
don't hear people complaining about that. I remember every other year
staying up until 1 or 2 in the morning to watch the BYU-Hawaii game...so what? I
would rather watch my team on ESPN at 8:30 than watch them at 7 on KJZZ.
@Mesa Coug: Dude, same team. I will watch the game even if it is at a worse
time. But Thursday night at 8:30 pm MST is unequivocally a worse time than
BYU was the life boat, and bread winner for both the WAC, and MWC. There were
no appreciation, but venom from the other teams, and their fans. Why bother.Stay independent.
I love how some anti-BYU fans not only show how much time they spend on BYU
articles--by virtue of the number of posts with their monikers on them--but then
also go so far as to admit it as well. Here I am feeling a tad guilty about
taking the time out of my day to read an article about my OWN school. I would
advise these others to get a life, but that sounds slightly mean. I actually
feel sorry for people like these. To truly not have *anything* more important
to do is really a very, very sad state of life indeed.
@ Bluesmack,Yes sir, a BS in econ at Utah and a MBA in econ from
UH.BYU never could get into the PAC sir. That is for real schools,
not a private undergrad institutions like BYU.
@Utah-Hawaii AlumAre you really an Alum of both Schools? Talk about
arguing with someone with a 'BLANK STARE'. I don't know who
you're trying to convince more. BYU fans or yourself. Seems even with that
PAC-10 label, the inferiority complex still remains. For the life of
me, if BYU had gotten the invite to the PAC-10 you would never find their fans
slumming it in the independent world of BYU. says a lot!
Sorry Levin. You can't please everyone. Take a nap and then watch the game.
BYU cannot play basketball or football. What, a token "sweet 16" every
30 years in the NCAA tourney is acceptable? BYU hasn't sniffed any BCS
consideration at any point. 1984 was a crucial year. That is why the BCS came
into this world. The outrage that occurred when BYU was ridiculously awarded a
NC will never be forgotten. That was a shame. Will they ever do anything again?
NO NO NO! They have mediocre talent, different era, poor coaching and academic
opportunities. I'm ecstatic! Gooooooo Utes!
#1 SLC Sports FanSalt Lake City, UTWhy should any conference want to
take a program that has been in obvious decline? BYU needs to be realistic and
realize their Athletic Department isn't the great missionary tool for the
LDS Church. This is BETTER DONE by sending LDS student athletes to
"real" universities with "real" athletic programs. Good points but you seem to forget that the PAC 10 took two programs that have
been in obvious decline for a number of years in Utah basketball and Colorado
football. And you suggest LDS student-athletes should be sent to "real"
universities with "real" athletic programs. Could you suggest a few such
schools since none exist in Utah other than BYU?
@Mesa Coug, one solution would be to hold the game on a day when a lot of people
in both East and West don't work. Such as Saturday.
With Rutgers and now Temple in the conference, I like BYU-to-the-Big-East a
little better than when it came up last year. BYU would now probably make it
out to my neck of the woods every year on average.But Big12 or Pac12
are still truly the best options, if it is at all possible.
@ Cougar1,You are welcome sir. We need some "reality" on the
DNews boards from time to time. I appreciate your support!
Utah-Hawaii Alum,Thank you for validating the BYU athletic program.
I'm SO SO SO enjoying this! BYU has been too mean for far too long! It is
What is D2 quality Riley Nelson and the fragile BYU crew gonna do at RES vs a
loaded Utah team on 9-15-12? ...........probably sell Girl Scout cookies!? Being
the last game that Utah will schedule BYU for, for quite a
while..........another monstrous beat-down will occur AGAIN! Gooooooo Utes!
@ Mesa Coug,I vehemently agree with you!!!!! Pullman and Provo are
small markets. Of course the game will start late.......cool????? I'll be
asleep, so will most everyone else on a Thursday. I have a job! BYU is
"filler" material at best. However, in week 5 of the season, it is
highly probable that USC and Utah will both be 4-0, USC ranked #1, Utah possibly
ranked #10-18. That game will be PRIME TIME on that Thursday without question.
The entire nation will wanna see it.........there are millions and millions of
PAC 12 fans alone that will watch that game, but other football fans will watch
it as well for sure. I never prognosticate, but it is highly likely to happen. I
worry about Utah State, the 2nd best football team in Utah, not BYU. Utah will
CRUSH BYU again......our cupcake games along with UNC.
Honestly over-zealous BYU fans, what "REAL" football fan will be
watching BYU @ NMSU during "rivalry week" on BYUtv? I love great
football...........SEC, Big 12, Big 10, PAC 12............that is what EVERYONE
will be watching....... those contests! The BYU fans can "chest-bump"
themselves all they want, they always have........it is of NO consequence
whatsoever.I've lived in the deep south(Fl, Va, Nc, Tx) for
over 15 years.............if you "NEED" to view BYUtv...........you MUST
buy the premium cable/satellite services to do so. 65 million homes have access
to BYUtv in the USA ......... Bwahahahaahahahahaha!
Hellooo. U-H is anyone home? The majority of fans that will want to watch the
BYU-Washington game live in the Mountain and Pacific time zones. What are you
going to do start it at 7:00 PM EDT making it so that most of the fans that want
to watch the game are still at work and miss half the game? Please, think things
out before you post.
Notre Dame will remain with the Big East for olympic sports ONLY. They will
remain independent in football for a looooooong time! They are the most popular
sports team in college sports, have the ONLY exclusive network tv contract in
the country, a GREAT-killer schedule, can schedule ANY team they choose to, and
do. ND is one of a kind!BYU is in serious trouble. They have made
too many enemies, not popular nationwide. ESPN is scheduling them as
"filler" only. Their home opener against Wazzu is at 10:30pm EST on a
Thursday on ESPN. Half of the country will be asleep before the kickoff occurs.
The rest of the airing times, as it stands today, are NOT prime-time featured
broadcasts. BYU fans can boast all they want......nobody is
Never fails to amaze me how these Ute fans get on here, a BYU article and
announce their teams so-called superiority. Even with their PAC-10 membership in
hand, they still seem to want to convince BYU fans that they belong. That's
the problem with second rate programs and their fans. BYU fans know
their program is the premiere program in the state and one of the top 5 programs
in the west, no doubts! But because of some bigotry and standards that they
stand bye, they will have to take a harder road towards a BCS conference.
That's fine! At least they don't get handed anything that they
didn't earn or deserve, and their fans spend every waking moment of their
lives trying to convince everyone that their reality is a....LIE!!
To all the Ute fans piping in, you sound like Obama, spouting off all the time
with no facts and having a "history" of like, one decade. And while you
may be looking forward to that USC game, USC is looking forward to about 10
games before even thinking about Utah. To those Cougar fans, there has been a
change in the landscape with the SEC/Big XII bowl tie-in and Pac 12 and B1G bowl
arrangements. The reason to consider the Big East (and perhaps the only
reason) is if ND is considering whether to join in football. and before any of
you say "no way", know that I have zero idea if ND is even considering
that. But ND and BYU would make the Big East a heck of a lot better league
than it is now. Lastly, lets not blame Holmoe for the independence
decision. I'm pretty sure that came from Samuelsen and/or the folks in
SLC. Holmoe was the mouthpiece. Holmoe has what I think is a miserable job -
when things are great, the school pres is always at the press conference, when
things go bad, Holmoe is on his own.
BYU blew it with the Big East, the Big 12 has NEVER given BYU the time of day
and the "knee-jerk" independence experiment has turned into a complete
disaster. I have read thousands of posts by ardent BYU fans from all over the US
on many sports boards........the entertainment value isn't there at all.
There is no conference championship to play for, Utah will dump them, as we look
forward to the USC game as a priority this year, not cupcake BYU and a terrible
3rd tier bowl game in December? Look at BYU's "November" football
schedule AGAIN this year for example. It is atrocious, at best........a bye,
Idaho at home, SJSU and NMSU on the road for ZIP??????? Honestly, what sports
fan would wanna endure that atrocity? BYU will curtail their football program
within the next 3-5 years. "Rick's College" south is inevitable.
@#1 SLC Sports FanStill delusional?BYU is in decline? As
you so "Wishfully" exclaim. Hold on to your dream, in fact, hold
your breath until it comes true.BYU has been a Top 25 team 18 times
and 5 of the last 7 years. BYU has as many Top 25 finishes in the last 7
years as Utah has had in their entire history.BYU puts 64k fans in their
stadium every week. BYU had 11 games on ESPN last year.
BYU generates millions with their Own Brand, and not by
riding Others Coat-Tails.BYU has more "Exposure" in one year than
Utah will have in the next 10.BYU just had their 7th Alum inducted into
the College Hall of Fame. (Utah has none)BYU has 400k living Alumni with
55k Students on 3 Campuses every year.(Utah is a nice Commuter College
without the College Town atmoshphere)BYU ranks #71 Academically among all
the Nations Universities.(Utah ranks #124th, 10th in the Pac).Ask Dave Brown, Executive Vice President of ESPN, if BYU is in decline, and
then ask him how many times Utah will be on his Network?
Joining the Big East now would be an act of desperation and bad planning. While
BYU is great at keeping its fans in the dark and allowing them to make up
reasons why good things are not happening re: conference realignment, I trust
that TH and company have the foresight to wait this one out. Joining the BE
should be our last resort, if ND joins a conference and there is no place for an
No actually it would not. Both programs worth a what (Pitt and WV) are now gone.
It doesn't help BYU any to go there from a scheduling standpoint.Re: hedgehogIs there any joy in your life outside of sports?
Big East would be improvement over current scheduling.
The only way to really fix things is to have the NCAA step in. They should
create 4 geographic conferences with 16 teams each. There could be a conference
championship game and the four champions make it to the playoffs. Then they
could implement B, C, D divisions in each conference and implement relegation so
that the two worst teams in a division move down and the two best move up.
It's a thing of beauty and works great for soccer all over the world but it
would require that the "haves" give up some of their power so I know it
will never happen.
Nooooooo, big mistake. Stay independent. The Big Least offers nothing to BYU,
and the cougars will live to regret joining a league 3000 miles away. Why?
I love how people get overexcited about news that isn't even certain. I
could write an article and say, "according to many sources, BYU is joining
the Big X" and have no sources to back it up. That's the beauty of the
media. You can write what you want and get tons of people to believe you with
no facts at all. Simmer down until there are definites people.
BYU will not go to the big east unless they get EVERYTHING. Independence and
the WCC is a great set up.
BYU to the Big East? BYU turned them down once. They will not ask again. Air
Force already stated that they were not interested. Nothing has happened to
change the landscape, it has become more tolerable for BYU to remain
independent. This story is another Big East plea for relevancy.
"Bring in an Air Force and another Western team (Colorado St., Utep/Fresno
St.) and re-brand the league "Big Country""-BlatoWhich one is not like the othersPAC12Big10Big12SECBig Country......lol
Why should any conference want to take a program that has been in obvious
decline? BYU needs to be realistic and realize their Athletic Department
isn't the great missionary tool for the LDS Church. This is BETTER DONE by
sending LDS student athletes to "real" universities with "real"
athletic programs. Even as a university BYU is too big and they really should
seek to halve their enrollment and not be the catchment of LDS academia,
something that doesn't mix with a religious school period. Let these kids
go and bolster the ranks at a real future AAU affiliated school like Utah or the
second flagship school of the state Utah State. If BYU must continue athletics
in whatever form they are best served by staying in the WCC and becoming smaller
like those faith based schools, and dropping a football program that only
encourages players to seek to play in the play on Sunday NFL, something that
should NEVER be in the mission of BYU or any LDS sponsored school for that
If the Big East is willing to think outside the box and make concessions to BYU,
they may be able to land BYU or perhaps even a Notre Dame.They
cannot attract the Big time schools they need and follow the standard model.BYU will not take a pay cut, so unless a Big East deal is in the 15-20
million range (per team), BYU will continue to hold out for Independence or the
Big-12.If BYU can maintain 3rd Tier rights (which the new ACC
contract does not allow), same day re-broadcast rights and some level of control
of home games, they'll go tomorrow.Bring in an Air Force and
another Western team (Colorado St., Utep/Fresno St.) and re-brand the league
"Big Country" or Continental Conference" and things could work
out.Four 16 team leagues will never happen.Why?Because
the Pac doesn't have 4 more teams to add.Therefore, it is in
the best interest of College Football to have at least 6 Top Level
Conferences.There are at least 100 worthy teams in D-1. The
rest should be relegated back to D-1AA.
Bluesack,It seems frantic, desperate emotions are bubbling to the
surface...so very delicious.
BYU to the Big East? That will definitely prove that Tom Holmoe has no idea
where to take BYU! He should definitely be fired if this happens. What a
definite embarrassment! Can BYU get someone with some kind of pull in the
collegiate Sports world?...That this program is not in one of the BCS
conferences and some red coat tail hanging community college is, is totally
Don't do it BYU. Stay independent. While there may be some good things that
would occur independence offers better things.