Comments about ‘Soda ban threatens Davis High School programs’

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Published: Friday, May 18 2012 7:00 p.m. MDT

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Durham, NC

I completely get the government saying that hard earned tax dollars should not be used for supporting the sweet tooth habbit of students. Got it... makes sense.

But banning the sale of those products to kids who would spend their parents hard earned money ( or their own) is in my opinion a gross over step of the federal government into what should be a local decision. If Utah doesn't mind helping kids achieve rollie-pollieness, that is their decision to make.

We have far more important things to be working on than this.

Somewhere in Time, UT

This is something that should be determined by local school boards and parents--not the federal government. This is typical, nanny state over reach. This has gotten so much worse since the Obama Administration took office.

Highland, UT

Amen to both comments above. This is a local issue. Considering Utah's schools are so poorly funded, they need every penny they can find.

Thatcher, UT

Government overreach like this needs to be fought. The school should refuse to pay and the state should sue the feds to prevent this. Things like this need to end. What's next, soda in my house?

Agua Dulce, TX

Government overreach needs to end. Let's cancel the school lunch program. Problem solved.

Bottom line is that the school thumbed its nose at people giving it money and are trying to justify their arrogance by claiming "it's all for the kids". Gutless.

Sutherlin, OR

Typical liberal Nanny State. Next thing you know it will be illegal for kids to stay up past eight o'clock.

Taylorsville, UT

I agree, it is a local issue but the locals are failing to do the right thing and shut down this industry and misconception and profiteering for the teachers and administrator.

I can't conceive of what these machines can profit enough from to provide any good for the 1,000+ students in the schools. The schools don't provide or promote exercise but they will promote laziness and obesity for a few bucks neglecting better food and eating habits.

Not only are these machines bad for the health of students, they are magnets of attracting students from class and their studies to meet in commons area for gossip and mate matching. Principals are turning their backs on education and health to make money for faculty and student parties.

I think the feds were justified in this fine, Utah schools are too profit oriented and the BOE encourages schools to profit, neglecting education and health of our children. For the health and safety of our children maybe its time the schools lock the doors and parking lots at lunch time and not allow them to visit fast food junk outlets, for the good of children and family budgets.

Terrie Bittner
Warminster, PA

While it may be true the kids will buy their junk food at the store, it is also true they will buy drugs from non-school sources. Does that mean schools ought to sell drugs to make sure they aren't cheated out of any possible income?

A school is supposed to teach students how to live a good adult life. If the school broke the law, they sent a message to the students that money is more important than integrity. Is that how you want your tax dollars used--to teach children to put money before the law? Should schools be helping children eat or drink in unhealthy ways? This is part of their education. Some students might bring junk food to school with them, but others will simply be thirsty and will buy what is available at school. If the school is creative in choosing interesting drinks, the students will buy from the machine.

Yes, students are being punished for the actions of the adults who are responsible for them. This is a reality of life in the "real world" everyone claims schools prepare children for.Perhaps they will learn that actions have consequences, even for the innocent.

Ms Molli
Bountiful, Utah

Bottom line is that there are and should be strings attached to federal dollars. How about all of these so-called conservative Utahans who want to reduce federal spending, teach people how to fish, blah blah blah, stop taking federal money for school lunches. Then you may allow your children to buy all the junk they want to buy at school during lunch and watch them become more and more obese.

Still Blue after all these years
Kaysville, UT

Where is the ACLU on this? They certainly spent a lot of money and time to fight Utah's pornography law but won't lift a finger on this restriction of freedom. Oh that's right, this would be a conservative stance. They don't do those.

Draper, UT

If you don't want the Federal Government making rules DONT take their money! Utah always complains aboutthe Federal Government but doesn't mind taking the BILLIONs from Uncle Sam when it suits them.

Columbus, OH

I remember my school switching out the soda machine for a Powerade machine. While Powerade is certainly not as ideal as water or juice, it's definitely better than Coke or Mt. Dew. Guess what, the students didn't go to the convenience store on the corner (at least not in large numbers). The majority of the students simply started buying Powerade because it was convenient. Dollars kept flowing in, and the drinks went up a step in healthiness.

Laura M. Warburton
Huntsville, UT

All in the same day, two articles that leave me perplexed. One about a judge up holding ban on soda. The other about a judge defending Pornography. Hey, simple solution. Switch judges and let's try these again.

Woods Cross, UT

There is a LOT of money made by schools through vending machines. Davis High (the school in the article) brings in $20,000+ annually on vending machines. They have a contract with Pepsi. Maybe Pepsi should jump in and help resolve the situation as well. They make BIG money pumping sugar into the bodies of teenagers.

And this wouldn't be such a huge issue IF Utah financed their schools properly. It is sad when administrators have to operate our schools as a money-making enterprises because Utahans are so adverse to paying for the education of their children.

Orem, UT

RE scojos: All public schools receive federal funds, it's unavoidable. This is one reason that the largest school system in Dallas is a private system. What is stupid is the school can still sell ice cream, snicker bars (because they have nuts, hence protein) and other sweets. What makes no sense is to fine a school so they have to cancel needed programs. George Orwell was just thirty years too early in his predictions.

Indianapolis, IN

So they want the federal $$ but don't want to follow the feds' rules? Surely the smart folks at Davis High can come up with drinks and snacks to sell besides soda and candy. Kids today are far more obese than any previous generation, and any efforts to help provide actual healthy and low-calorie options should be applauded. I doubt the federal lunch rules prohibit drinks/snacks altogether. Just start providing some kind of alternative besides junk food, that's all, and earn your bookstore money that way instead.

Fruit Heights, UT

It is just candy and soda. Candy does not make people fat, video games make people fat. TV makes people fat. Sitting makes people fat. Driving a car instead of walking makes people fat. Buses make people fat. Sometimes candy is what you need to get you through the day. Sometimes you just need some sugar.

One of the great things about being in jr. high and high school was being able to buy candy and pop for lunch if I wanted too. It did not make me fat and it gave me something to look forward to once in awhile. I just do not see it as being bad at all. It reminds me of the day that dodgeball was banned in elementary school. Sad times....

KC Mormon
Edgerton, KS

Here is the problem with this, first many kids will just go off campus to buy the pop. Second for those who say well just sell powerade look at the sugar countin both. 8oz. powerade has 14 grams sugar or 3.5 teaspoons sugar 8 oz. pop is 27 grams sugar 6.75 teaspoons sugar. Sounds like the powerade is better however a bottel of powerade is around 20oz. so you actualy are getting more sugar in the powerade than the can of pop.

Salt Lake City, Utah

So, kids will go to the convenience store on the corner, but won't go to a less convenient (but still closer than the corner store) spot in the school?

And all the school really has to do to be in compliance is turn the machines off during lunch.

The horror of requiring schools to act responsibly!

@ Still Blue after all these years and Laura M. Warburton: I'm sorry - could you remind me where in the Constitution it says there is a right to consume soda?

I'm sure free speech and soda consumption are both rights listed in the Constitution, otherwise your comparison would just be silly......


KC Mormon, a bottle of soda is also (typically) 20oz so your insinuation that Powerade is equally unhealthy to that of a non-aspartame soda is inaccurate. I think you are drawing a comparison to 12oz can, which I don't believe are sold at schools through vending machines anymore. I could be wrong. Keep in mind, even with a Powerade, that amount of sugar/calorie is way too high but exemplifies what is now a calorie-dense society.

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