7 fumbles JennyWhat's your poor excuse for Colorado?KHOne of the reasons that BYU is clearly a legacy program,
nationally recognized, etc. is its overall accomplishments, something you
obviously omitted in your personal chest thumping ritual. I
won't mention the personal awards that BYU players have accumulated over
the years but we know which school has the longer list.Last 50 years
of modern football (non-leather helmet days)BYU 26 conference
championships... Utes single digitsBYU 10+ win seasons... double digits...
Utes, 6 including since 1896BYU an NC... Utes never in 115 years nor in
the seeable future
Sammy G...what's your excuse for getting beat by Utah 54-10?!
@UteologySo what has all that money done for Washington, Oregon St.,
Colorado, Washington St. California and UCLA they have had the money a lot
longer but have not had the success that you are planning on? Except for the
occasional good years for some of the teams they are all bottom dwellers you
have your USC, Stanford and Oregon that dominateCoaching has a lot to do
with it but not everything. I also remember when you all up on the hill
were not very happy with Whit but now he is invincible and can do no wrong. This
changes look at Urban down in Florida when he was up on the hill he could do no
wrong either so nobody knows how things are going to turn out. I am sure
that back in the early 70s no one expected BYU to go on a 19 and 2 run things
change and go in cycles.
Star is a NFL star in the making, can't wait for the season! Go UTES!@bubba: "Utah has the upper hand now but who’s to say it
won’t swing back to BYU"Utah has the better coaching,
talent, and conference ($30 million annually in a few years. So unless that
changes I can only see BYU winning miracle games over Utah.
Ok KH Now go back and see how many of the pre 1970 games were road games
for BYU if I remember right it was almost 5 to 1 but I do have CRS disease so I
may be off a little. I also have not said that Utah has not been the
better team as of late but I have said that it swings back and forth Utah has
the upper hand now but who’s to say it won’t swing back to BYU other
than you, navel vet, Utah-Hawaii Alum, chris b I can go on but I am sure you get
billybubba,I'll answer your question.Whit vs.
Bronco is in Whit's favor: 4 games to 3Last 10 years: Utah 7 byu 3Last 20 years: Utah 12 byu 8Last 30 years: Utah 13 byu 17 (byu was
clearly better that decade, Utah has clearly been the better team this decade,
they were even in the middle decade)Now why stop at 30 years ago?
From 1896 to 1971 Utah dominated: Utah 41 wins, byu 8 wins, 4 tiesFrom 1972 to 1992 byu dominated: Utah 2 wins, byu 19 winsFrom 1993 to
2011 Utah was better: Utah 12 wins, byu 7Overall record: Utah 55 wins, byu
34 wins, 4 tiesClearly Utah has the better program currently and
overall. Of its entire history dating back to 1896, byu has only dominated Utah
for 20 years. Utah has pretty much owned the rest of the history.
@navel vetOk so under your terms Utah is great wonderful and cant do
any wrong and BYU stink, but I am not buying it. Yes I did watch the game
in question. Yes the best team won that game the best team also won your
bowl game. Just like the best team won the Utah/BYU game but this in no way
means that BYU cant win and be the best team that day. It always comes down to
score board and you and your fluke-loss double talk is a joke because you are
just as good at dishing it as anyone else. You keep bring up the 7
of the last 10 but what are the records between Whit and Bronco? What are
the records say the last 20 years? Last 30 years? Why is the last 10 so
important to you? Because that shows the best record for you to brag
about. You know it and I know it. Also you have never answered if
you hate BYU as much as you seem to and they are so irrelevant than why do you
get so uppity about them?
billybubba:"So under your terms Utah losing to the Buffs was a
fluke for that day. But any time BYU loses it is because they don’t match
up to anyone but the WAC teams."Utah matches up well vs.
BCS-level teams. Afterall, prior to joining the Pac-12, at 21-11, we were the
winningest non-AQ team vs. AQ schools. The cougs...not so much. In fact, even
with the an extra year in the mid-majors, you STILL hadn't reached
Utah's 21-win plateau. AND you have an overall losing record to
BCS-caliber teams. The Utes hadn't faced CU in over 50-yrs, so
all we have is just that one game. And if you had watched that game, it's
clear that CU was the better prepared team that day. That doesn't mean
Whit was UNprepared. It just means he wasn't AS prepared as Embree.As for the Indy-WACers, we've beaten your team 7 of the last 10.
Nevertheless, cougar fans always point to those individual 7 losses as flukes,
so don't try that "fluke-loss" double talk with me.
"until BYU becomes irreverent." -billybubbaI don't
think byu will ever become irreverent. They are always very quiet and
respectful during their church meetings. What does reverence have anything to
do with football anyway?
@navel vetWait a minute all I ever hear is that coach Whit is a
great motivator and with the chance to go on to the pac championship game where
was the preparation for this game. Also you’re so called patch
together a squad around a D-II caliber signal caller how can this be an excuse?
He had how many games under his belt or was he no good just for this one
game. So under your terms Utah losing to the Buffs was a fluke for
that day. But any time BYU loses it is because they don’t match up to
anyone but the WAC teams. I don’t know but I do think this is
a double standard. To quote my dear sweet grandma what is good for the goose.Now for your other comment if BYU is so irrelevant then why do you waist
so much of your time commenting on BYU articles. You never have anything good to
say without sarcasm but you have all this free time to comment over and over
sammyg:To what 'cut and paste' comments were you
referring? I only posted ONE previous time on this article, and everything
there was original. I wasn't even quoting anyone. Don't be so
frantic and emotional.And no, 4-5 and 6th-place isn't
mid-majorey if it was done in the Pac-12. Mid-majorey is going out of your way
to ensure your schedule is lined up with predominately other mid-majors. And
since you're independent, you're free to schedule whomever you
please...or at least that what your AD, coaches, and Indy-WACey fans have been
boasting since you gave notice to the MWC. And then you turned around and
scheduled every team in the WAC except Fresno St. and La. Tech. You've claimed you could schedule whomever you please, and who pleased
you most? The WAC. How mid-majorey.As for CU, my "excuse"
was already posted last November: (1) CU came more prepared, and
was the better team that day.(2) Utah's starting QB was lost for the
season. The Utes subsequently had to patch together a squad around a D-II
caliber signal caller. Everybody knows that.
Naval VetAre the 'cut and paste' keys on your keyboard
about worn out? 4-5 and sixth place (really 8th) is about as
mid-major as U can get, isn't it? What's your official
excuse about this and losing to Colorado?
billybubba:The Indy-WACers have ALREADY been rendered irrelevant.
Once they dropped their association with the MWC, started aggressively pursuing
WAC-ish opponents, and affiliated themselves with the New Mexico and Armed
Forces Bowls, they became nothing more than a spectacle for out-of-state cougar
alumni and a percent of "other" LDS members to look forward to watching
after the rest of the nation went to bed.But hey, you STILL have
your nanny code, your persecution complex, and your Idaho State Championship.
What more can a Y fan ask for? Congratulations.Mid-majors forever.
I am a BYU fan and I would like to let you all know that your fans can not
comment here because they are too busy commenting on the BYU articles so 7 to 10
comments is all you will get until BYU becomes irreverent.
Barkley wont stay in the top 2 but star will unless he gets injured
Very excited to have Lotulelei back clogging up the middle and disrupting plays
for another season. He's a great example of hard work and humility. I
absolutlely loved his Morris Trophy acceptance speech.Go Star!
@Mildred in FillmoreDoes it really matter the 2 best players as of now are
from the pac 12. Star is a great player and has a lot going for him and Barkley
is supposed to be the top QB in next years draft. So 2 great players lets play
the season and go from there and if you do want to know the ND linebacker Manti
Te’o is probable the best and then you would have to look at Van Noy but
that’s just my thinking
Star is a great athlete. Utes need to focus on recruiting his brother Junior. He
is getting big time offers from some great programs.
If CBS is projecting the 2 best players in next year's NFL draft are both
from the PAC 12, where is the top player from the Independant Conference listed?
I am so glad Star is coming back to play for the Utes this year. That guy is a
beast. If he can stay healthy, watch out! Go Utes!!!