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Published: Tuesday, May 15 2012 10:53 a.m. MDT

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CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

I have nothing against Thursday night games, especially this one if it gets moved to Thursday night. But I'm still struggling with moving Boise State to Thursday night. Playing Utah in SLC and Boise State in Boise, 5 days later, is a tough task.

With ESPN, we get the exposure we wanted, but we also get some obstacles like this. ESPN is going to move around games, dates and times to capture as many eyeballs as possible.

TJ
Eagle Mountain, UT

There is a price to pay for exposure. I don't like the BSU game being moved up either. I do like the WSU game being moved up though. That give them two more days to prepare for the next game.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

TJ:

"That give them two more days to prepare for the next game."

So you think the Indy-WACers are going to need a couple of extra days to mount the imposing challenge of a Home date with Weber State? Sounds brutal. Good luck with that.

truecoug1
Provo, UT

@NavalVet "So you think the Indy-WACers are going to need a couple of extra days to mount the imposing challenge of a Home date with Weber State?"

I'm going to take a wild guess that it was an attitude like that that partly led to Utah getting embarrassed by that 'imposing challenge of a Home date with that powerhouse team Colorado' last year. Sure looked like the Utes could've used a couple extra days to prepare for that awesome 2-10 team.

By the way, I love how you use the whole 'Indy-WAC'er reference as a demeaning term, especially since a WAC-caliber school (Hawai'i) actually beat Colorado, something that U could not do.

So what does that make U?

Food for thought.

Go Cougars!

DevilishUte
Tempe, AZ

"So what does that make U?"

What does it make you when you got whipped by 44 by the same team you're trying to talk trash about?

truecoug1
Provo, UT

@DevilishUte "What does it make you when you got whipped by 44 by the same team you're trying to talk trash about?"

Yawn. Predictable Ute response, avoiding the question by bringing up a meaningless score about BYU when I didn't even mention the Cougs in my post.

Congrats on the W. It was a nice little gift-wrapped present from BYU to U, and by far Utah's best win of the season, which is why U keep bringing it up. I don't have a problem with that, nor does that game or score bug me.

Anyhoo, to answer your question (since you apparently couldn't answer mine), it definitely made us look pretty bad that day. Was BYU really that bad? Nope, as evidenced by the fact that they finished 10-3 and ended up in the Top 25. Was Utah really that good? Nope, since they finished 8-5 and lost to two teams that ended the season with losing records.

So back to my original question: if 'WAC' caliber teams are so bad, what does it make U when a 'WAC' caliber school whupped up on a CU team that embarrassed you at home?

DevilishUte
Tempe, AZ

"Yawn. Predictable Ute response, avoiding the question by bringing up a meaningless score about BYU when I didn't even mention the Cougs in my post."

Yawn. Predictable BYU response. Your team has lost 7 of the last 10 to Utah...A clear trend has been established and yet your delusional mindset tries, without success, to explain it away.

I'll answer your question with a question. Why do you have to use another team to do your smack talking for you?

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

truecoug1:

I love how you frantic and emotional "TEN-side" of the 54-10 annihilation last September have to glom onto a 3-10 Pac-12 team in order to talk trash, because THEY could do what you could NOT. Yes CU beat us on our Home field, but there were no "quitters" in THAT game. Can't say the same for the aforementioned "TEN-side"ers.

Too bad the WAC will fold after this season. NOW who will you fill out the 4 remaining games on your 2013 schedule?

NevadaCoug
Overton, NV

Re: Devilish Ute

Yeah, yeah, BYU lost to Utah last year. They quit in the 2nd half and embarrassed themselves. We get it.

Now, answer this: how often does BYU get upset by teams they are supposed to beat (or even just teams with losing records)?

On the other hand, let's talk about Utah and suffering major upsets. Colorado last season (giving the Buffalo their first road win in 4 years). 2007, getting whooped 27-0 by UNLV. Losing t0 both New Mexico and Wyoming in 2006. Losing to UNM, North Carolina, SDSU, and CSU in 2005.

Sure, Utah has had some incredible highs (2004 and 2008). BYU just doesn't lose to teams they aren't supposed to, however. Other than the Utah State loss a couple of years ago, I challenge you to name another.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

truecoug1:

"Yawn. Predictable Ute response, avoiding the question by bringing up a meaningless score about BYU when I didn't even mention the Cougs in my post."

Well I didn't mention Colorado in MY post, yet here you are bringing THEM into the discussion. Typical hypocritical Indy-WACer.

And our matchup at LES wasn't "gift-wrapped". The better team won. And most of Ute nation consider our best win of the season to be our come-from-behind victory over Ga. Tech in the Sun Bowl. If the Utes had've played as mid-majorey of a schedule as your guys did, we would have finished with 10+ wins too. Your ranking was flawed, and thanks to USC being ineligible for mention. You can hide behind your WAC-ish schedule all you want, but even YOU guys know it's true.

deductive reasoning
Arlington, VA

to all of our jealous troll friends from the hill

Losses to conference bottom dwellers:

Bronco - ZERO
Kyle - SIX - UNM(twice), CSU, Wyoming, UNLV, and Colorado

Losses to 10-loss teams:

Bronco - ZERO
Kyle - TWO - UNLV(2-10), Colorado(3-10)

sammyg
Springville, UT

Naval Vet

"If the Utes had've played as mid-majorey of a schedule as your guys did, we would have finished with 10+ wins too."

Ah, ain't that touching. Do I detect a hint of bitterness and jealousy over a BYU 10 win season?

BYU has had plenty of them. 16 of them to be exact. And in the golden age of modern football, WAC and MWC, the Utes could only muster 6, correction, in ALL of Ute football history there’s only 6.

I think it’s hilarious (and hypocritical at the same time) that you continuously bring up this IndyWac thing and your poor team couldn’t squeeze out more than six 10 + seasons in both conferences and a paltry 6 championships to BYU’s 26.

How ironic that you whine about the ‘tough’ schedule and think the Utes will rise again to a 10 win season. I think 6 is it.

That PAC pride and prestige not as fun as winning huh?

"If the Utes..." my new pet ‘lead-in’ phrase.

'If the Utes' had only won that game against Colorado...

Independence and winning > mediocrity

LOL

sammyg
Springville, UT

Naval Vet

6 - Championships in the WAC and MWC
6 - 10+ seasons... ever
6 - th place in 2011

Wow is that spooky or what? Stuck on that #6. Of course had the real ranking of 8th place in 2011 had been bestowed then we wouldn't be having this conversation would we?

6 is it!

Utah-Hawaii Alum
Dallas, TX

If I was a BYU fan, I'd be very careful about any chest-thumping this year. BYU will not beat Wazzu, BSU, ND, GT, USU and the mighty Utes will shut BYU out unless Utah turns it over deep in their own territory. BYU has Kyle Van Noy. is all........the only good player they have.

Utah-Hawaii Alum
Dallas, TX

@ sammyg,

BYU hasn't beaten a decent team in 20 years. Enjoy BYUtv in November.

Utah-Hawaii Alum
Dallas, TX

I think that BYU may beat Weber State at home. Am I misguided, or wrong?

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

sammyg:

"How ironic that you whine about the ‘tough’ schedule and think the Utes will rise again to a 10 win season....That PAC pride and prestige not as fun as winning huh?...Independence and winning > mediocrity"

Nobody is disputing that the Indy-WACers would prefer scheduling down a bunch of weak-WAC and FCS-level teams in order to hit their 10-win benchmark, rather than being challenged by facing REAL teams with a REAL competitive SOS. However, Indy-WACey fans seem to have a tough time understanding why their chief rival would take their chances.

The answer is, Utah just wants to know how good we REALLY are. And if we're an unranked 8-win season like last year, we'll own it. Cougar fans prefer ersatz accolades. They like to PRETEND they're relevant.

In the 13-yrs from 1998-2010, Utah went 21-11 vs. the BCS. In the FOURTEEN yrs (1 EXTRA yr) from '98-'11, the cougars STILL couldn't match Utah's win total. They went 18-21. Cougars can't beat the good teams. And that's why they were never good enough for a BCS bowl.

Utah-Hawaii Alum
Dallas, TX

@ Naval Vet,

Well said sir!!!

There are some fine people that are BYU fans, and the ones I'm friends with aren't very pleased about BYU's current debacle. In actuality, when BYU loses the ESPN contract it is their greatest fear that BYU's owners may shut down the football program. BYU won't be invited to a big time BCS conference ever. I, like many of my BYU fan friends, would rather watch re-runs of Hee Haw than BYU vs NMSU, or the likes. Football is entertainment. And, there isn't much to be entertained by with BYU's lower-tiered WAC schedule, then some obscure bowl game at years' end.

sammyg
Springville, UT

Naval Vet

but again... the Utes can sure lose to the bad ones.

There is nothing wrong with playing out of your league, it's just that history does not support the premise that BYU is destined for failure and the Utes are going BCS 'Rose Bowling'.

Wake me up when your teams wins 6 games in the PAC 10.2

54-10
Salt Lake City, UT

Let's just hope they don't lose 54-10 and quit again.

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