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Published: Monday, May 14 2012 6:21 p.m. MDT

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UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

Huge difference between government, and the church/leveraged buyout guy. The latter you can just dictate your will. You don't need to compromise. At Bain, you dictate it is so, and it is that way. If you don't like someone, you get them fired. In the church, much of your personal latitude is limited by the "handbook". And if you don't like someone, you send them to nursery.

While in church you really do not have any power over people, you rely on their good will to get things done. In office, achieving that level of niceness doesn't exist. You rely on others to do the right thing, which very seldom happens, through compromise, something neither a bishop nor VC needs to do. You can't just dictate your will.

I really see very little overlap in skills. If he wins, he needs to serve at the will of all the people, not just those who voted for him. He will not be able to unilaterally demand things. It will be a challenge.

mightymite
DRAPER, UT

This is an aweful comparison and if anything being a mormon hurts him more then it helps in the political world. Desperate article to say the least.

Abeille
West Haven, Utah

UtahBlueDevil:

WHAT??? Am I reading your comments right? You said 'In the church, much of your personal latitude is limited by the "handbook".' This indicates that you think Mitt Romney needed to work within a structure in his duties as Bishop. Then you say, 'While in church you really do not have any power over people, you rely on their good will to get things done.' That would suggest he needed to work with people by influencing them, rather than demanding things be done 'his way'. Then you say, 'If he wins, he needs to serve at the will of all the people, not just those who voted for him. He will not be able to unilaterally demand things.' Yeah ... that's what you implied when you suggested that Mitt Romney needed to work within a structure to fulfill his ecclesiastical duties - using influence rather than control. Then you conclude, 'I really see very little overlap in skills.'

Really? Am I the only one who thinks you just completely contradicted yourself? Well, I guess I agree with you, then. His experience as an ecclesiastical leader will, indeed, be very beneficial to him as President of the United States.

awsomeron
Waianae, HI

Romney is as Mormon as he has to be when he has to be. What ever works at the time. I give to you his stand on Abortion prior to his supposed change of mind. The evidence leans to his being Pro-Choice except perhaps for Mormons.

The only thing good about Mitt is that he can Defeat Obama. Defeating Obama is a key to stopping Abortion.

As long as you favor Abortion on any level you are part of the problem not part of the solution. The lesser of 2 Evils is still Evil.

The problem is the ability backing and money to win. So if you can't get it all. You have to take what you can get. Extremist on both sides don't get that. So they Vote for someone who can't win or worse yet don't Vote.

I never did understand why low voter turn out was so bad as long as your side wins.

Flying Finn
Murray, UT

Re: mightymite DRAPER, UT
"This is an aweful comparison and if anything being a mormon hurts him more then it helps in the political world"

He will be elected because of his ability to help our economy. He used his skills to save the 2002 Winter Olympics from financial disaster and when the games closed he left $100 million dollars in the bank. Probably why Obama wants to steer clear of that issue.

raybies
Layton, UT

Utah Blue Devil: WOuldn't it be something if the whole nation relied upon each other out of sheer good will, rather than compulsory means?

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

Dear Abielle:

I agree with you. Some people use the most convoluted logic. This hyper partisanship is getting really sad when someone can't just accept that Mitt Romney has done an excellent job both in the Church and in business and that it will influence him for good and has prepared him in his roll as President of the United States.

Obama is such a disaster as president and it would be really nice to have someone who actually has some legitimate experience and training in leadership rolls.

Flashback
Kearns, UT

UtahBlueDevil, I consider the three years that I spend in the Nursery to have been a blessing. I got the chance to spend time with young children and put their feet on a path that hopefully will help them as adults. So far out of that nursery, I'm two for two with young men going out on missions and three for three for temple marriages for the young women. I'd like to think that I had a hand in their success. Plus we had some really good times. I wasn't banished there. My next calling after that? EQ President. Now, that was an affliction at times.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

Dealing with peoples spiritual lives (whatever that is), is wonderful experience for leading an entirely secular organization...but...working within that society for the betterment of it's residents isn't, in fact it's a liability? Yup, gotcha.

iron&clay
RIVERTON, UT

Everyone knows that all of the administrative grunt work has to be done in quorums, Bishoprics and Young Men and Young Womens positions.

If you can leap-frog over the above positions and land yourself in the glorious ecstacy of a Primary Teacher, then, you have arrived. But don't tell anyone, cause then sitting on the stand in a position of authority will lose it's luster.

Hank Pym
SLC, UT

@ Abeille & Cats

Good Management skills are Good Management skills regardless of venue. However, its interpersonal & communication skills that are most crucial as POTUS. Case in point; Clinton & Dubya.

LValfre
CHICAGO, IL

Romney is not going to beat Obama. If you're looking for a republican with a chance to beat Obama than Ron Paul is the only one. If you're looking to vote for a fellow Mormon, which seems to be the case with the DNews bias, than Romney is the one.

Romney has a great record and is a good guy. Ron Paul can literally take away youth, minorities, and women from Obama. He can take republicans, democrats, and in betweens. Ron Paul can beat Obama ..... Romney does not have a chance.

It's left wing vs right wing when we've got a guy like Ron Paul who can unite everybody under the prospect of fiscalconservatism and social liberalism. Nobody in this election can beat a candidate who can get votes from both parties. And we saw how youth votes helped Obama last campaign .... Ron Paul has stole those youth voters.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

When you are and have been in the world of business, religion, obtaining an education in a variety of fields, and the head of the Olympics, etc., you are in a fishbowl for everyone to scrutinize every word, thought and even take editorial delight in changing what they thought he said or meant to say. He has done what he has done and accomplished because he was taught and shown the example. He is a good person and subjects himself and his family to many abuses in the media and press and public eye to serve other people. He doesn't have ill intent in anything he appears to us to do. Some complained when he became the leader of the Salt Lake Winter Olympics and that was all for naught. He did an outstanding job because he has convictions, experiences on how to run things, etc. and especially knows how to blend people that know what they are doing to do what he envisions for a successful event. For not being a Utahn, he has set a model for our State to emulate. There will always be those who want to infer his religion forces him. He has Agency.

Stephen Kent Ehat
Lindon, UT

The WaPo articles address "leadership.”

If Romney's experiences are anything like what most Mormons, those in other faiths or of no faith experience, it is an opportunity to serve, not simply to “lead.”

In the Latter-day Saint experience, as I view it, a "leader" is simply one who guides the charitable service of others. It is, in a phrase, "organized charity." Those of all faiths clearly can understand this.

Paul reminds us that the head and eye need the hand and foot. Leaders serve those who serve.

Of the three WaPo articles reviewed by Mr. Walker, Dave Ulrich’s alone uses the words “serve” and “service”; he speaks of Latter-day Saints who "serve as lay leaders," saying "Mormon leaders’ jobs are more about service than prestige," referring to Romney's "church service," and telling of Romney's "serving his local congregations as a lay minister."

Christians, non-Christians, and people of no religious faith understand we are all in this together.

Our greatest happiness comes from unselfishly serving others. That is the kind of motivating factor likely standing behind Mitt's leadership roles in Church service. He served.

sergio
Phoenix, AZ

Flying Finn, in your statement you say: He will be elected because of his ability to help our economy. He used his skills to save the 2002 Winter Olympics from financial disaster and when the games closed he left $100 million dollars in the bank.

When you look into it a little deeper you will see it was not Romney who saved the Olympics; it was you and me and all the other tax payers. Romney went back to Washington and received lots of money to bail out the Olympics and that is how the Olympcs was saved and if he is going to use the same approach to save the American economy then we are in real trouble. The government can not keep solving problems by throwing money at them. And that seems to be Romney's MO.

BYU Track Star
Los Angeles, CA

This article was an interesting counter-point to the current "Mitt, the Alpha-Male, High school Gay Basher Bully" circulating in the national media. From this I've learned both of the two main Presidential candiates were both young men once and did things that made the adult versions of themselves wince. I wince still over the stupid things I said and did at 16-17. Well, its all part of growing up. IMHO, Mitt may win the popular vote but lose the electoral college vote. Oh well, it will sell alot of newspapers in the meantime

Mark B
Eureka, CA

Romney's church related experiences are clearly not on the list of things the campaign wants average voters to think about. It's "business leader", "saved Olympics" and "Super Man/Father/Husband", with "former governor" and "church leader" as far down the list as possible. So DN steps in to remake Mitt in our own image just in case its steady pumping of the campaign has been missed. Of course it STILL could be informative if current or former LDS Bostonians are asked about their dealings with Brother Mitt. But let me guess: words like "repentance", "humility", "empathy" and "humility" just won't show up.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Perhaps,
President Obama would be doing "better" if self-righteous Conservatives would be praying FOR him [as the Brethern, LDS Doctrine instruct them too], instead of praying, hoping, and wishing for his -- and America's -- demise.

As much as I hated GWBush - I always prayed for him. Prayed at times he'd snap out of it, but prayed FOR him none-the-less.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "LDS Liberal" who said that they want Obama to fail along with the US? All we ask is that his policies fail to be implemented, we ask for one more day of freedom before the hand of government is used to oppress us and our freedoms are eliminated in the name of "fairness".

But you do bring up something that you never seem to address. If you hated Bush for his policies, why do you like Obama for taking Bush's policies and making them bigger?

Also, another point in your hypocrisy is shown by how yous ay that " if self-righteous Conservatives would be praying FOR him [Obama]" then turn around and say that " hated GWBush - I always prayed for him. Prayed at times he'd snap out of it". Isn't that a bit self righteous?

UTAH Bill
Salt Lake City, UT

I fail to see how Romney's pursuit of riches has ANY kind of tie to being LDS (or being Christian, for that matter). I just don't think it's possible for the rich to get a “pass” - particularly when they utilized predatory business practices that resulted in people being fired to save money. I guess I just have a different idea of what it means to be a Christian.

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