More like the dodo, as in "dead as..."If, against all
reason, Washington County becomes dependent on Colorado water, it has signed its
own death warrant.
Re: dart thrower.... The residents would probably vote down a bond for this
project and thats why the Water District petitioned the state legislature for
some kind of a state tax or funding to help pay for it. The state went for it
and now everybody gets to pay. The county residents have already seen how the
district is blowing money on a "no expenses spared" office building for
themselves and now a $1.4 million dollar park next to it to show how they can
spend even more money. This project will be at least 2 billion when they get
finished with it so the $1.2 billion they are talking about is way too low.
Cedar City was smart to opt out of this deal.
This is the worst kind of socialism. The residents of Washington County have
outgrown their natural supply of water, so to increase it unnaturally, everyone
in Utah is supposed to chip in. If Washington County wants to build this and
reap the economic benefits, then they should bond for it and put impact fees on
all new construction. Isn't that the way the free market is supposed to
I live in Cedar City (Iron County) and I was thrilled when our leaders here
decided not to be involved with this Titanic water project! I think it's
ridiculous. I heard that something like 61% of household water usage in
Washington County goes to water lawns? That's INSANE! Even if that figure
is off, there is still no reason people in an extremely arid desert need to have
green lawns. Also I agree with other commentors who've said the tax payers
of Utah shouldn't have to pay to keep golf courses green around St.
George.For being a very conservative state, people in Utah,
especially Washington County, sure don't seem to apply that conservatism to
water usage! I'm sure many see water conservatism as green or liberal or
whatever, so it must be evil then lol.My other concern is Lake
Powell. What's going to be left of that lake in the 20s when the project is
done? You can't pump water from an empty lake!And the
California water isn't only for California's use. It benefits us all.
Do you like to eat lettuce? Thank California water for that.
AmPatriot-The Central Utah water project has taken a lot of that water from the
Colorado River drainage and put it into the Wasatch front. You don't
believe me, go up the road to Mirror Lake and stop at some of the places where
those pipelines have been in place for some time. Same thing with the tunnel
from Strawberry through Diamond Fork. Northern Utah has infrustructure in place
to take advantage of our allotment of Colorado River water, but Southern Utah
doesn't. We need to get the water, otherwise, we will lose it. I
wouldn't expect Van Dam to like it anyway.
Hey, at least someone wants to use Utah's water for a Utah community. Las
Vegas (that's south of St. George, by the way) wants to pump out our
groundwater here in Tooele county to keep them viable, notwithstanding the fact
that the last five years have seen massive contraction in their population due
to the economic climate.But to the point at hand: didn't I just
read in another article that the Colorado was oversubscribed in the first place?
I see the need--St. George et al. is a growing community and that needs
water--but I'm really wondering about the availability of the supply. The
problem is that in 20 years, St. George isn't going to be growing as the
boomers die off. Then what?
David B.,"Heck with Ca. if they need water water build a water
purification system large enough to use the pacific ocean."That's a rather ungenerous thought to have about your fellow Americans.
Anyhow, St. George is as foreign to me as SoCal. Might as well be in another
state; they're close enough to the border. So I say to heck with St.George.
If they need water they can wake up, realize they live on the border of the
torrid Mojave, and get rid of the lawns and golf courses. That should buy them
enough time and water to figure out the finances of the pipeline.SoCal can't have that water forever anyway, it's legally entitled to
Utah. But Washington County is intent on wasting it and doing so in a very
expensive manner. On what planet is it responsible or economical to have lush
green lawns for 100,000+ people in a climate that can barely grow Joshua trees?
The culture of St.George needs to change, then water managers like Ron Thompson
won't have to cater to it with projects like this.
Utah and Az. should have the primary rights to the water at Lake Powell and it
should completely utilized by the people of southern Utah. Heck with Ca. if they
need water water build a water purification system large enough to use the
Definitely albatross. Anyone should be able to see this is a bad idea.If Washington County had to bear 100% of the cost they would never build
it.If Washington County doesn't bear all of the costs, this
amounts to everybody else in the state having to spend a ridiculous amount of
money to subsidize golf courses in the middle of the desert. Explosive growth and fairly low water bills in the middle of the desert are
totally unnatural, and nobody should have expected that either would last long.
Most of the people of Utah are too young to remember to reason for and why we
still have an item on property tax notices of something called the Jorandelle
Canal or Pipeline tax as it was initially began as. But about 40 years ago in
Utah we voted a bond to build a pipe line from the Colorado river to SL valley.
But about half way across Utah and the going through the Wasatch Mountains
Corruption in the pipeline taxes took all the money and the shut down this
project. Then conveniently by legislation, they converted the
pipeline taxes being collected to build what is now presently known as the
Jordanelle Reservoir near Park City using the pipeline taxes which the state
still collects the taxes to this day. I think the logic is that the pipeline is
still a work in progress idea and idea's cost money in Utah since it is
intellectual property.Anyway the pipe line is a curse to tax payers
and it should be noted and required that if not completed or if completed the
bond and tax is immediately dissolved.
Currently, Utah has unused water rights to the Colorado River water. Other
states, such as Nevada and California, are using more of the Colorado River
water than they are entitled to.If Utah doesn't start to use
its shares, politics will eventually dissolve Utah's rights to this water.
Either we build such a pipeline, or the right will eventually transfer
permanently to other states.On the other hand, it is very expensive
to pipe this water.As a model, we have the California Aqueduct,
which diverts a lot of water from the San Joaquin River in Northern California,
to supply the Southern California areas of Victorville, Los Angeles, etc. I used
to live in that area and was disturbed during drought years when the water went
south to keep the Southern California lawns green, while drought restrictions
forced those in Northern California to let their lawns die. If politics
hadn't altered nature, those in Northern California would have had plenty
of water, and those in Southern California would have had to tighten their
belts.Political decisions must be made. Either spend the money to
use the water to which we have rights, or lose those rights.