To "LDS Liberal" so you are admitting your hypocrisy when it comes to
holding a liberal accountable vs. a conservative.Why should Romney
be held to a higher standard than Obama? By saying that Obama can be held to a
lower standard means that it is more acceptable to you for Obama to lie, cheat,
or do questionable things to achieve his adgenda.If flip-flopping is
bad for a conservative, why is it good for a liberal?
Re: LDS LiberalLDS Liberal, when will you ever learn? It's not
about Romney. It is about OBAMA. Any Republican will/would likely win in these
circumstances. The fact that Obama is even close to the challenger shows he is
in trouble. Now the only way for Obama to win this election is if something
extreme happens that either destroys Romney or enhances Obama. The Oklahoma
City bombing did it for Clinton. We'll just wait and see what does happen
in the next 5 months.
@Redshirt1701Deep Space 9, UtTo "LDS Liberal" and how is
that any different than Obama, If the problem is flipflopping, then why
only attack Romney, Obama is equally guilty if not more so.================ Mitt Romney is LDS.I hold him to Higher
standard.per Pres. Hinckley -- He should "Stand For
Something", show Integrity and stop Flip-Flopping to appease.
Good grief, you are already celebrating the coronation of Mitt Romney when he
hasn't even won the nomination. Ron Paul beats Obama by an even larger
percentage according to some polls. By the time the election comes around just
about anyone could beat Obama. But why choose someone who would do the same
things? Obama does the same things Bush did. Romney's policies
aren't that much different than Obama's. The poll is probably so
close because it is hard to distinguish the two. Like flipping a coin, the odds
To "LDS Liberal" and how is that any different than Obama, Mr "I
won't hire any lobbyists" who hired multiple lobbyists, and countless
other instances of hypocrisy and flip-flopping. One of my favorites was how
Senator Obama said that deficits were criminal and should be eliminated, then
President Obama authorized the largest deficits in history.If the
problem is flipflopping, then why only attack Romney, Obama is equally guilty if
not more so.
This is why Mitt Romney will loose:========Romney:
'I'll take a lot of credit' for auto recoveryBy Justin Sink
- 05/08/12 09:18 AM ET Mitt Romney said Monday that he deserves
credit for the recovery of the auto industry, arguing President Obama
essentially followed his advice on the auto bailout. That drew a sharp rebuke
from the Obama campaign, which called Romney's comments "a new low in
dishonesty, even for him." ======== Mitt Romney is a
Flip-Flopper who shows no integrity, and will say or do anything to win.and IMHO - That one statement alone by Bro. Romney doesn't
meet the criteria of; "Are you honest in your dealings with your
fellow men?" question.
This is hilarious…..This is the 1st poll Romney has ever been
on top.It just seems like yesterday when Herman Cain was leading the
polls, and Tim Pawlenty, and Rick Perry, and Michelle
Bachmann, and Rick Santorum, and Newt Gingrich, And, and,
and…. What happened?Where are they now?Polls?Polls mean absolutely nothing right now.Let’s
talk polls come Mid-October.
@ Counter Intelligence, Romney now takes credit for the successful auto bailout?
Who's pompous? And he has no shame.
No matter who is leading at this stage, it means nothing. Come back to me in
September and October, then I'll care.
Riverton Cougar..when Bush was President;lets see..America was attacked on her own soil for the first time, and over 3000
civilians were killed.America went after the organizer of the attack
and lost him.America invaded a soverign nation based on a
blatant..known lie and spent billions of dollars while thousands more Americans
were killed.The economy created an enormous housing bubble that
burst and crashed the world economyThe last 5 quarters of the Bush
administration had GDP loses of 2% each, with the last quarter before Obama took
over losing 9%..absolutely unprecedented.And the economy only added
3million private sector jobs during 8 years.Bushs last budget 1.2
What would be most interesting is to see a poll of Economics professors. Who do
they favor? Romney or Obama?
It's no secret now that Mitt Romney is nothing then a DNews and same old
Republican Mormon fantasy. But when one talks about "their poster
child" it's like "why Facebook thinks your comment is irrelevant or
inappropriate" and won't post it. Does Romney have a chance to take
down Obama in 2012?. Obama launched his re-election campaign with two back to
back rallies in key battleground states of Ohio and Virginia wherein he
introduced the slogan of "Forward" in an attempt to recreate his magic
of four years ago that made him the first non-White US president. Obama Haters
are evading any proven facts Romney does not have. Now when Obama does take him
down, its all puffery. Romney gave Obama credit for his role in bringing down
the top al Qaeda, something Romney would never do. President Obama visited
Afghanistan unplanned, unannounced, just went right to Afghanistan. Not to be
outdone, Mitt Romney got in his car and drove through the rough part of Beverly
Hills. He'll kill the campaign like Palin and McCain did.I
don't trust Romney and Obama. Who do they give is to vote
Biden is holding Obama down too. Let's see how Romney does on his first
presidential decision picking his VP. It could leap the polls. Or kill the
campaign like McCain did.
Re: "Personally, I think the GOP insanity has got to stop and they need to
start solving problems . . . ."Heaven forbid!Every
time politicians claim to "solve" a problem, it turns out they're
actually catering to some electioneering consituency, and the problem they claim
to "solve," gets worse.What we need are politicians with the
guts to repeal EVERYTHING Obama did, then do NOTHING of substance for at least 2
years. Let the economy rebound. Let us catch our breath. Let small businesses
make plans and come back. Give us a two-year break from tree-hugger insanity.
Let us heal morally.Then, we'll have the strength to fend off
the inevitable socialist assault.But today, we're on the ropes.
"Mitt Romney is George W Bush (except Mitt would be more timid on foreign
policy). Why would be want to elect what is essentially a 3rd Bush?"Let's see....With Bush as President, unemployment averaged
about 5.4%, deficits were less than $1 trillion, and the national debt was
between $5 and $10 trillion, with debt being added at a rate of about $0.625
trillion per year.Now we have Obama, unemployment that hasn't
dropped below 8% (despite promises that if the stimulus was passes, it
wouldn't go over 8%), annual deficits of over $1 trillion, and national
debt is $15.7 trillion, increasing at a rate of approximately $2 trillion per
year.According to CBS News, "(CBS News) The National Debt has
now increased more during President Obama's three years and two months in
office than it did during 8 years of the George W. Bush presidency."
3/19/2012.So, you ask, "Why would we want a third term of
Bush?" Obama based his 2008 campaign on "Voting for McCain gives us 4
more years of Bush". Facts show that a 3rd Bush would better than Obama.Why would we want more Obama?
What I feel sorry about for all the Mitt Romney supporters is that the polls
don't really tell it like it is, that most people are faced with a choice,
vote for someone you dislike or for someone you don't like. So
when I look at the past few years and hear all the blame Pres. Obama gets for
all the problems our country is facing, I wonder what part of the blame the GOP
is responsible for when all they've done is say NO to everything. I also
wonder if what the GOP did in Wisconsin, Ohio, and other states will be repeated
on a National level if they win the presidency and both houses. Personally, I think the GOP insanity has got to stop and they need to start
solving problems instead of positioning themselves to be the authors of fear
without real solutions or solutions that only benefit the rich. So while I may
not like all the things that have happened during the Obama administration, I
don't trust the GOP to fix them.
ute alumni wonders "could someone please tell me who those are that are
voting for obama? it is hard to believe that anyone would vote for this guy
again. how much more damage will result in a second term?"Look
at a projected electoral map. Most people in Utah will follow orders and vote
Republican. But outside of the state there are independent thinking people who
remember the real damage George W Bush did to this country. Mitt Romney is
George W Bush (except Mitt would be more timid on foreign policy). Why would be
want to elect what is essentially a 3rd Bush?
"Companies will hire when they need to hire. When they have demand for more
of their product/service. To think companies will suddonly go on a hiring binge
if we lower their taxes, same old Republican fantasy. Keep feeding the beast and
the beast will take care of everything!"So williary suggests
that we tax those companies, and that will create jobs. *facepalm* Why
didn't we think of this before? Raising taxes is what entices companies to
hire!"If you really believe that it's within the capability
of the president alone to manipulate the economy and gas prices and illegal
immigration then you've got four years. Fix it."Here we
have another converted liberal confess that Bush could not have been responsible
for the economic collapse. He might say that Congress helped, then stick his
foot in his mouth when he realizes that Democrats took control of the House in
2006, and things started looking bad after all that. Oops!"Not
surprising considering the President just officially kicked off his campaign
yesterday."ParkCityAggie, I think you mean to say he
"officially" kicked off his campaign. Obama has been campaigning since
PS. folks national polls don't elect a President. Even the popular vote
doesn't elect a President. The only calculation of electorial college votes
that is really close is if you soley consider unemployment rates and that
caluculation is close. But guess what Obama still wins..so dream on Repbus.
Not surprising considering the President just officially kicked off his campaign
yesterday. Late summer early fall may give us a better understanding of where
the people are in terms of who they think the president should be, and I’m
sure the debates will go a long way towards that end as well. The problem for
Romney is also an answer to some of your questions as to why anyone would vote
for Obama again. You see if you live in Utah you might be unaware that MOST
American’s don’t think like you. Most Americans are moderates,
middle-of-the-road types, much like me. They don’t appreciate their party
getting hijacked by extremist or people too far off in one direction, regardless
of what they say on Fox News or the Drudge Report. Romeny also needs to
overcome the fact that he is not as likeable as President Obama (personality
wise). If the people wont buy that Romeny could do a better job fixing the
economy, then he's going to be on the losing end come November.
Romney carved out slim lead over Obama, in national polls, because in MA. he
supported gay marriage to. And Mormon's don't like it. But it's
ok now?. IF the "Education Secretary Backs Gay Marriage" it's time
to shut down the Dept. of Education and get back to Home Schooling.
Obama's education secretary entered the gay marriage debate, giving his
unequivocal support to the idea that same-sex couples should have the right to
wed. Arne Duncan's (radical feminist) intervention comes just one day
before a crucial vote to amend the North Carolina state constitution to ban gay
marriage, and was seen as a far stronger endorsement of the issue than that
given by Vice President Joe Biden over the weekend. Duncan becomes the third
member of the administration to come out in favor of the issue. Housing and
Urban Development Secretary Shaun Donovan was the first sitting cabinet member
to back same-sex unions in November. The Klingon Joe Biden on Sunday gave his
support to gay marriage but was not as direct as Duncan. THEN Biden pointed out
that it is Obama who sets policy.Can ANY of them be trusted?.
Wait until Ron Paul's general election numbers are in.
The bigger question is not answered by this type of survey is how do the
Electoral votes come out? This is nice for a simple popularity contest, but
unfortunately the US presidency is based on winning in each separate state and
To the Deseret News: Let me save you some trouble. You can run this headline
everyday until November: Race Close, Polls go Back and Forth. Sure beats
talking about real issues, doesn't it?
it's much to early to call the election; voters have short memeories, and
there will be lots of up and downs before november.at least these
pollsters have guaranteed employment until after the second tuesday in november.
This is very encouraging. However, the campaign is fought on a state-by-state
basis. National numbers are not as indicative. A candidate can get 100% of the
vote in California and still only get 52 electoral votes. The number that
really counts is "likely voters" in the battleground states. Currently,
those polls are also looking encouraging for Romney.Go Mitt
Dadof5sonsBut Reagan had to take a bullet to do it. If he had not
been shot, there is no way that he could have pushed his proposals through the
What a big change it would be if Romney was elected president.(sarcasm) It will
be more of the same that we already have now. Why bother voting for Romney when
he is already in office in the form of Obama? We will have increasing national
debt, expansion of the patriot act, war, TSA gropedowns etc etc.
This is like the third article of this nature on this site within the past 1-2
weeks and the only way that happens is because after the last time there was one
of these, both Gallup and Rasmussen flipped back to where all RCP polls had
Obama ahead again. Are we going to get one of these articles every time Romney
takes a lead in any poll but never any when Obama leads in polls?
If there is a "Sadducee" class within the LDS ranks (plenty of
circumstantial evidence to support this ... particularly in Utah), then Romney
represents that class and that attitude toward the "publican".
@ Hutterie,Well to quote the current President " If I can not turn
this economy around in four years, then this will be a one term proposition"
Well he did not turn this economy around so Come November he should be fired! Oh
Reagan had a far worst Economy then Obama had inherited. Unemployment was double
digits inflation was a rocket sled on rails interest rates we 21% and rising.
Reagan turned that Economy around with a Democrat held congress remember Speaker
of the house Tip O'Neil? They worked together and fixed the Economy over 20
million new jobs were created. Obama has had zero Job's growth. The only
reason why Unemployment numbers are down is because people have fallen off the
records or have given up looking for work. so the real unemployment numbers is
around 17-20 percent.
Hutterite,That would be fun if Romney was the next President. I
just hope that these same people who are so critical of Obama stay consistent
with their scrutiny. Hmm... But for some reason I highly doubt that will be the
Here's what DN don't want you to know about, why Romney carved out
slim lead over President Barack Obama, in national polls over false promises.
Ask yourself this question, if the AP wire story is true, and, Oil plunges below
$97 on US demand, then why is gas at the pumps still about $4 a gal.?. We know
the GOP won't answer that, because all they care about is guns for the
hunters, (remember the NRA says that "Guns are inanimate objects" and
don't kill people hogwash, and subsidies for the Koch Brother's and
their "Rich and Famous" and more tax breaks for them alone. Yes their
"welfare for the rich" government subsidies to big business, pork-barrel
Pentagon contracts to weapons makers, huge tax breaks for wealthy individuals,
and most recently, colossal contracts for post-Katrina reconstruction to
politically connected companies like Halliburton. Blame the GOP and their
deregulated commodities modernization act. We can't afford a situation
where some speculators can reap millions, while millions of American families
get the short end of the stick at the pumps, can we now?. I
don't like Romney or/and Obama. My truthful views.
In a way, I hope mittney wins. Because everyone here is so sure republicans have
somehow found the magic cure to all our ills in the last four years that I will
have one expectation of his administration. Fix it. All. If you really believe
that it's within the capability of the president alone to manipulate the
economy and gas prices and illegal immigration then you've got four years.
What these polls do not show is the undecided voter. they have historically went
for the challenger in every presidential race for the past 60 years so with that
number puts Romney ahead 52% to Obama's 46%
Willary, it is small businesses that do the bulk of the hiring, so yes, when you
lower taxes they can hire more.
I am Latino and for sure 110% I won't vote for President Obama, he really
let me down and the country Can't effort 4 more years with him it will be a
The slumbering masses of ignorant voters are beginning to awaken to a
realization that the current left-wing government is ruining America. Indeed,
future polls will show the public moving solidly away from left-wing
candidates.The current administration has been relentless in its
attempt to turn this Country into a welfare state in which government controls
all aspects of life, from birth to the grave. What is more, the left will
hesitate at nothing to silence all who oppose it.The left uses the
tax structure to take and take, and then expects gratitude and applause when it
gives a few morsels back through entitlement programs. Far too many have been
fooled by this practice for far too long. Only those who continue to be fooled
would even consider keeping the current leadership in power.
@ IMAN. Everything I stated is fact! As Sir Winston Churchill said,
“truth is incontrovertible, ignorance will deride it, malice will attack
it, but in the end, there it is”!
Mountainman, you are hilarious! Do you come up your own material or do you have
a staff of writers? Are Fitness Freak and Rifleman on the writing staff? ROTFL!
Tin foil hats are out this morning!Good to see the same group of
posters whinning day after day. Cut taxes, that will fix
everything! Money is bound to start trickling down the ladder eventually,
right! Companies will hire when they need to hire. When they have
demand for more of their product/service. To think companies will suddonly go
on a hiring binge if we lower their taxes, same old Republican fantasy. Keep
feeding the beast and the beast will take care of everything!
"ute alumni" There are close to 50% of the population that are, in some
form or another, dependent upon the government. Obama will try to convince them
that his way is the only way for them to stay "afloat". Lets hope those
people without jobs will vote for Romney and REAL jobs, not just government jobs
or handouts.There's also a sizable chunk of the population that
think they won't get healthcare without having Obama in charge.Also, the "polls" are usually pd. for by the mainstream media who are,
WITHOUT QUESTION, cheerleading for an Obama re-election.
Obama owns most of the news media that spins his economic and administrative
failures into “successes”. Obama sits at the head of the most
scandal ridden administration in the history of America (fast and furious, GSA
parties, secret service melt down, Solyndra Scam and on and on). Americans on
food stamps are at an all time high, more American’s homes are underwater
than ever before and our national debt has grown more under Obama than all other
presidents combined. Obama has more than 8 times more money than does Romney
for their respective campaigns. Nearly half the population of America pays no
federal income taxes while nearly 80% of all federal income taxes are paid by
the wealthiest Americans. Obama wins because half the population believes they
have a right to take the property of other Americans and Obama is never held
accountable and has more money!
Oh for heaven's sake!! Romney hasn't even gotten the GOP nomination
yet, hasn't selected a running mate, and we haven't seen where our
economy is headed this summer. I've heard Condoleezza Rice's name
mentioned as a possible running mate. That would make Obama break out in hives.
could someone please tell me who those are that are voting for obama? it is hard
to believe that anyone would vote for this guy again. how much more damage will
result in a second term? i shudder at the thought.