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Published: Thursday, May 3 2012 6:07 p.m. MDT

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travelrus
murray, UT

Yeh lets all vote for Liljenquist yeh thats the ticket.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

Ah, thats ok. All in the name of winning at all cost. If it takes a lie here or there, as long as you win, it is all worth it. Free market economics at its best. If you are stupid enough to believe him, you are due your darwinian fate. These are the "family", Christian, and whatever values we are to look up to.

That said, he is presumed innocent - so lets see where this all ends. But cooked books do tell a lot about someone.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Gadianton is alive, well, and prospering in Utah. His main office is located in a very large building on a hill at the north end of State Street.

Worse than that, he seems to have full support from a of Utah voters.

When will people wake up?

Orem Parent
Orem, UT

Inflating values on funds? Seems like a local senator did just the opposite thing when he wiped out the retirement fund for local state police, fire, and teachers. He claimed it was heading for disaster when in reality it just had two bad years. It was the best managed retirement fund in the nation yet this senator took the opportunity to wipe out retirement for thousands of local workers.

We will continue to see the consequences of this one pathetic bill for generations to come.

Montie
Salt Lake City, UT

Spin this however you like Holly Richardson, but this is very very concerning. I for one cannot understand why we would want to replace Senator Hatch during this critical time in our country. I hope the people of Utah come together and send a strong message to Freedom Works that we stand behind our conservative Senator, Senator Hatch and that we will elect our own candidates to represent Utah. We do not want candidates selected and funded by Freedom Works and that are beholden to Freedom Works a Washington Special Interest Group. And when Freedom Works manufactures attacks against Senator Hatch with misleading accusations they lose all credibility. How do they attack Hatch votes where their founder Dick Armey voted the exact same way. Hypocrisy at its best. We need Senator Hatch now more then ever. And heaven forbid if Obama does win in November we certainly will want Senator Hatch's leadership and seniority fighting to bring relief and help to Americans suffering everywhere. As a small Business owner I want Hatch fighting for me in Washington.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: one old man Ogden, UT
"Gadianton is alive, well, and .... His main office is located in a very large building on a hill at the north end of State Street."

Reminds me of Isaiah 5:20 "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter."

Flashback
Kearns, UT

And Danny Boy wants us to vote for him? He has shown bad judgement in hiring people. You need to vett the people who work for you. Danny didn't do that very well. I think that we are way better off with someone that we know in Hatch, not with a potential loose cannon like Oh Danny Boy who seems not to have much common sense. Give Dan six years to develop it, then I'll feel good about voting for him.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Has anyone been following the news about John Edwards lately? Wasn't he a Democrat? Wasn't he the Democrat nominee for Vice-President of the United States in 2004? What did he do? Oh yes, he fathered a baby out of wedlock - when his wife was suffering from cancer. He used campaign finances to try to "hush" things up.

How many Democrats smeared and slurred John Kerry for choosing John Edwards to be his running mate? How many blamed him for having the bad judgement to choose someone who lied about his life, about his finances, about his affairs?

Did Dan Liljenquist know about Russell Cannon's stock fraud? I doubt it. Did Dan Liljenquist try to cover up that fraud? Absolutely not.

What did Dan Liljenquist do when he found out about the fraud? He dismissed Russell Cannon.

What would you do?

Any organization that operates on trust, expects that the people who join are trustworthy. Any organization who finds that someone is untrustworthy get rid of that person.

Let the Democrats howl and moan and point fingers. They have a lot of cleaning up of their own house to do before we can take them seriously.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: Furry1993 Clearfield, UT
"What an excellent indictment of those who call Liljenquist "good."

Finally we can agree on something. Sen. Hatch will be re-elected and will serve another 6 years.

On the other hand
Spanish Fork, UT

@Mike Richards, I agree that one can't legitimately criticize Liljenquist for Russell Cannon's bad decisions, which Liljenquist had no influence over and no knowledge of.

In point of fact, however, Cannon was not dismissed from Liljenquist's campaign; rather, he himself resigned.

I'm not sure why you bring up Democrats. I don't believe anyone has mentioned the Republicans. I'm especially puzzled as to why you bring up John Kerry. Did you expect him to look into the future to discover that Edwards would have an affair beginning in 2006?

As for the notion that Democrats don't have the right to criticize Republican scandals because they have weathered some scandals of their own, do you think the bad choices of a partisan implicate the entire party? I don't think the Republican Party would take credit for the indiscretions of Tom DeLay, John Ensign, or Mark Sanford, and I seriously doubt those incidents would keep them from criticizing Democrats facing similar allegations.

Both parties have had their share of scandals. Honest observers will recognize that the present one is Cannon's scandal alone, not Liljenquist's, not the Republicans', and certainly not the Democrats'.

Kearns_Dad
Kearns, UT

Going to take a closer look at Scott Howell for Senate. This type of story is what I expect from Utah Republicans. What more can come up with the Utah GOP except scandals?

One Utah Independent voter.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: Furry1993 Clearfield, UT

After Sen. Ted Kennedy's accident at Chappaquiddick which left a young unmarried woman, Mary Jo Kopechne, dead the Democrats would do well not to throw rocks at the Republicans. It was suggested that Kennedy probably should have reported the accident to the police in a more or less timely manner.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

On the other hand,

Have you read the posts? How many "liberals" have taken a pot shot at Republicans? Maybe that doesn't matter to Democrats who think that taking swipes at Republicans is always fair game - and then complain when someone points out that their party is the home of John Kennedy, Bill Clinton and John Edwards - all men who had "zipper" problems. Did the Democrats forget that Mr. Obama appointed known tax cheats to his administration? They were no "surprise" to Mr. Obama.

- Tom Daschle, the first HHS nominee,
- Chief performance officer nominee Nancy Killefer.
- Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner,
- US Trade Representative Ron Kirk

I brought up John Kerry for the very reason that you stated. He didn't know in advance that John Edwards had no morals. Did Dan Liljenquiest have a crystal ball to know what each person who volunteered to work on his campaign would do?

OKay, call off your dogs and I'll call off mine. Guarantee that no Democrat will smear Dan Liljenquist because of the actions of Russell Cannon and I'll guarantee that I will stop pointing at the Democrats' dirty laundry. Deal?

UtahVoter
Spanish Fork, UT

So, I'm still confused as to how this suddenly makes Hatch or Howell look better by comparison. Liljenquist is running a bare bones campaign with a volunteer campaign finance manager. That volunteer gets accused of unrelated deceptive business practices. Suddenly people are claiming that voting Hatch in for six more years is wise and good?

Seriously, people. Hatch *himself* was involved with shady and deceptive business dealing directly related to his political office just two years ago when he was caught paying his current campaign manager, Dave Hansen, *$5000 a month* while Dave Hansen was chairing the State Republican Party as an alleged volunteer who had completely severed official ties with the Hatch campaign. When caught, Hansen claimed it wasn't pay, it was some sort of delayed-bonus-over-time that he collected every month from Hatch and when that didn't play well, Hansen quickly (and quietly -- this got almost zero press) resigned and went back to being the more visible continued full-time campaign manager for Senator Hatch...

Liljenquist will vote and represent Utah much better than Hatch on the important issues -- Federal budget, unfunded mandates, etc. Liljenquist is willing to lead where Hatch only follows.

On the other hand
Spanish Fork, UT

@Mike Richards, so if I manage to change the behavior of all Democrats and liberals (if only I had such influence...), you'll agree to change your own behavior? That's a little lopsided, don't you think?

By the way, an important difference between the Kerry-Edwards connection and the Liljenquist-Cannon one is that Cannon was allegedly already guilty when he signed on with Liljenquist, while Edwards was innocent of the Hunter affair when he signed on with Kerry. Regardless, I've already agreed with you that Liljenquist is not to blame for Cannon's mess. I see a few pot shots in the comments here aimed at Liljenquist, and I join with you in denouncing them, but I don't see any directed at the Republican Party.

As for the Democrats' dirty laundry, point all you want. It's as irrelevant as me pointing at Larry Craig, Mark Foley, Newt Gingrich, Bernie Kerik, Duke Cunningham, and Richard Nixon. There's plenty of shame to go around, but none of the people you or I have named have anything to do with Dan Liljenquist's campaign, which has nothing to do with Russell Cannon's alleged fraud.

Rock Of The Marne
Phoenix, AZ

The company you chose.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

Mike Richards.... so what you are saying is if say a Democrat, lets pick a random name - ok Obama, were to pick someone who didn't match up to the moral ethics that, lets call these people Republicans, didn't like, that it would be wrong for these Republicans to crtisize this Obama chap for his hiring.... is that what you are saying. That Republicans would rise above, look at as simply a lapse of jundement, and just move on.

Kind of like Janet Reno. Not a single person ever made fun of her, or Clinton for having her on his staff... right.

Its all puppy dogs and unicorns on the conservative side, and gutter crawling trash on the other side.

Why is it, that when a Republican makes a mistake... it is the "liberals" fault. And this is about a contect between two Republicans, not a Republian and a Democat. If Hatch had soneone on his staff under investigation for criminal fraud, do you not think Liljenquist campaign just might say someting about it.

Stop blamming "liberals" for everything. It really discredits the authenticity of the conservative movement if they can't self police their members.

dalefarr
South Jordan, Utah

Turn out the lights. The party is over. There is no doubt whatsover that Hatch will remain our senator. Wish it wasn't so, but it is.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

re: On the other hand,

How do you know that Russell Canon was guilty before he joined the Liljenquist campaign and that John Edwards had not had an affair with Ms. Hunter or any other woman when he signed on with Kerry? Just how many affairs did John Edwards have? Andrew Young reported "multiple" affairs. Was John Kerry the only person that didn't know of Edward's philandering?

For that matter, why do Democrats pay to hear Bill Clinton speak? Why do they revere someone who violated his marriage covenants and defiled multiple women? Why is he not shunned by the Democrat Party? His guilt is well known, and if the media is to be believed, he has not changed his lifestyle in any way.

You claim that Russell Cannon "resigned" and was not fired. If you were told to come to "my" office immediately and to bring your letter of resignation with you, would that mean that you resigned or that "I" fired you?

Would it matter?

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

Q - "How do you know that Russell Canon was guilty before he joined the Liljenquist campaign"?

A - "Matador was overvalued by as much as 104 percent from November 2007 through July 2011, and its performance returns were overstated."

Unless Liljenquist has been running for this office since 2007, I am pretty sure this was a pre-existing condition. As to the difference between Russell Canon and John Edwards, actually there isn't much. One took peoples retirement funds and squandered them away through lies leaving them minus their funds - great breach of trust. John Edwards cheated on his wife - great breach of trust.

As to your last statement, while it sounds very high and mighty, the world would be really quite place is we shunned everyone who has wronged someone else. Christ did not shun the sinner, why would we put ourselves in a higher place? Clinton unfortunately didn't do much if any more than those who accused him. And what the other does should have no bearing on what is acceptable for us, our own party, or people we know. And if someone did something worse, I don't think that justifies anything.

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