Before any of my blue brethren embarrass themselves, obviously the U is a place
where a faithful football player can find spiritual fulfillment. This one
worked out well for us. Courageously done! Hope to hear good
things about you in the future!
it's too bad that Norm Chow doesn't have the class of the CSU coach!
He will be happy at byu. Glad KWhitt didn't offer him a scholarship. Going
from CSU to byu is a lateral move, while trying to earn a spot at Utah would be
hedgehogAnn Arbor, MIInteresting. Yet another mormon athlete being
stolen away.===Yet, Hedge, and his older brother was
"stolen" by Utah.The kids made an important decision based
upon what was in their best interest at this particular time in their lives.I don't think the word "stolen" is appropriate in these
cases... (Unless, you are a negative person, bitter about life, looking to make
everthing and everyone around you as dreary as your own pathetic situation...)
CSU's coach knows that it's about the players...bottom line. Reilly
had sincere reasons for wanting to transfer, so I congratulate CSU's coach
for keeping his players' best interest in mind.
Happy for him. I know his family - especially his grandfather and I wish him
well. CSU is known as one of the top party schools so I understand his desire to
Even though I'm a BYU fan and BYU got this kid I'm just glad to hear
whenever someone today is willing to potentially sacrifice a lot in order to
keep true to self and values. Good for him for choosing to change his situation
to something that fit with his needs.
Good for him. At the end of the day, it is about the players...although it would
be fun to have another brother duo on the hill!
Hopefully a coach would be man enough, like CSU's coach, to let a player go
if they asked. Surely it is never a decision that the young man on scholarship
makes on a whim. Beside that, do you really want to use one of your
scholarships on a player if his heart isn't completely in it? A coach that
can't see that frankly needs to grow up. And I'm glad
someone in Miami has enough time on his hands to 1) pay attention to an article
about his rival and 2) try to egg on the rival by saying something as stupid as
I am very happy that Norm Chow is not the BYU coach, or I'd have to change
my colors to red.
Good luck to this RM. He obviously found what he liked in Provo and coach
Mendenhall. Like it or not for Ute and BYU fans, some of the young men gravitate
to Mendenhall and some to Whittingham. Very different personalities and manners
in which they coach the young men they are over. Both have had success where
they are and expect good things from their players.
I don't blame Trevor for sitting out in the parking lot. I mean you
don't want your own coach thinking your recruiting for your former rival.
It was very cool that he let his brother choose. Pac 12 commish: You
ruined a cool story with a stupid comment.
He's having a tough time living the LDS lifestyle in Colorado???
Sounds like a good player. Are there any other Reillys in high school?
"Trevor, who signed with Texas Tech out of high school, found himself at
Utah following his own mission service and encougared Drew to seek out
opportunities at both Utah or BYU in order to find a better fit for him
socially."So this kid's brother transferred from TT to the
U after his mission, and then encouraged his brother to leave CSU and look at
Utah and BYU. Where is the outrage by Ute fans? How could the U steal an
athlete from another program, and how could one of their athletes encourage
another to do the same?Horrible! Criminal! Unconscionable!Or is it just not OK when it's BYU? Or maybe it's just a fact of
life in college football and you should stop making fools out of yourselves by
making a big deal out of it when it happens.
Sounds like a good kid. He should get to play where he wants to play. Good luck to him.
Trust me, if you're number 36, your not very good. Just Kidding.
I'll take BCS athletes over sunday school boys anyday
As a former student at both CSU and BYU, I can tell you there are huge
atmosphere and social differences between the two and that is not a slam on
either school. It depends on what you want in your life (or don’t want).
chrisb, better check the results of BCS teams in bowls the past few years before
you bash sunday school boys.Or are we talking about something else? ahmmm
@Chris B is now recycling comments. Have you made so many posts on BYU articles
that you have run out of new material?
Dear Crowntownl Don't confuse the state of Colorado with CSU. He
didn't say he wasn't living the lifestyle he wanted, he just said it
was difficult at a party school. It is always easier when you are surrounded
with people who think and act like you. When you attend a college
and drinking is high on the priority list, with everyone encouraging you and
inviting you to participate and lower your standards the wise person moves on.
Who needs to listen to this type of talk and see this action on a daily basis.
It sounds like he has better things to think about than what is happening at
CSU. For most people an honorable mission does readjust your priorities.
Let's be honest here, the reason is SOCIAL. An RM in Colorado can find an
LDS social scene, but it is still much better at the Utah schools. Also the U
and Y both deal with the "older" students better, they understand that
these young men are not 18 anymore and have some maturity.
@Jeff29,The truth hurts. Every time I bring it up. Byu does not
have the talent to be among the elite(see undefeated seasons, BCS games, BCS
wins....).byu was good 30 years ago because of innovative offensive
minds. Unfortunately, coaching has caught up and surpassed you many years ago
and the "athletic disparity" shall we say is shown when byu matches up
against speed(see byu's 0-8 record against good teams the past 2 years)But let me say something nice about byu:I have full
confidence you can win another WAC championship this year.
The CSU coach sounds like a class act. Good on him to have in mind what is best
for the individual. Really, sometimes a change of scenery is needed. I think
this will be good for Reilly, just as I think Heaps will do better at Kansas. I
think the high expectations of Heaps at the QB spot (despite his inexperience at
the college level) and the culture shock were too much for him. It's good
to see coaches like that today. All the best to Reilly.
It's all about securing the right fit for the student athlete and the
school. Congratulations to Drew, BYU and CSU for doing the right thing.
Coaches can leave for other schools anytime they want without having to wait a
year before coaching again. The NCAA treats students like unpaid slaves. They should not be punished when the school they chose doesn't meet
their needs. If a student athlete plays below average, the school
can take away their scholarship. Student athletes have rights. They
should not have to wait a year to play after their transfer. I hate
the NCAA and the BCS. Both 501c3's need to be declared for profit
corporations and athletes should be paid if their skills can demand it.
Chris BI'll take BCS athletes over sunday school boys anydayYou'll take anything you can get...character or not.Sometimes things just go right in the world.
Good move. Too bad brother didn't go in and meet Bronco.
The fans of both BYU and Utah could learn a thing or two from this story.
Coaches like Chow could learn something from the CSU coach as well. Good luck to
This is really telling of his character. I would be cautious of this kid.
@mightymiteSo are you concerned about his borthers character as
well? YOu know the guy that actually encouraged him to check out either BYU or
utah? You know the kid that had already transferred to utah after his mission?
My guess is no.
Drew after reading these comments by ute fans, aren't you glad you chose
BYU? Welcome to Cougar Nation! Your brother is a class act too. Sad that ute
fans don't recognize he's a "sunday school boy" too.
The big picture is that these kids like Wadsworth, Nelson , Reilly and several
others before them make it difficult for others to get recruited. What coach
out side of Utah would want to recruit a kid who has a desire to fulfill a
mission? The attitude is once they return, they will want to transfer. Way to
set the stage ( sarcasm inserted). Just gives serving an LDS mission a bad rap
with schools outside of Utah. Way to go Norm Chow who gets it. If there were
more coaches like Chow, we would see a decrease in this behavior. I hope one
day they will think about what their actions do to the future kids.
Glad he was able to switch to BYU without the CSU Coach blocking him.Once again, it is all about the student. We don't need more coaches and
administrators manipulating the lives of kids.They should be free to
go without hoping the coach doesn't block them.Satan had a plan
that was all about control.It is time to change these rules!
Classy move by CSU head coach releasing Drew from his scholorship at CSU. Im
happy for Drew, he seems like a good kid and he found a place where he will fit
in and feel comfortable with the atmosphere. And of course im looking forward to
seeing him play at BYU.
This kid is great...........Provo, Utah is the greatest town on earth. I am
going to move there ASAP........Dallas, Texas is too boring for me.
After the hazing death in Florida, and bounty hunting in New Orleans, I'll
take Sunday School boys and the honor code any day.
@Chris BWhat do you consider to be a good team? Assuming that you
do not consider BYU to be a good team, then Utah hasn't beaten a good team
in the last two years either (and they haven't played as many).You do, however, seem to have a knack for losing to bad teams. Would you like
to list that stat?
Speaking as an outsider "from across the pond," can I say that all of
this BYU / U of U bickering appears very childish, and unnecessary. Just accept
the fact that some athletes will find a better fit at BYU whilst others will
feel more comfortable au University of Utah. There is no shame or dishonour in
either. I played God's sport of Rugby League in a town where
there are two professional teams. I was fortunate enough to play on one of them
in my youth, and had many friends who played for the other, and also some
friends who supported the other. I didn't think any less of them, and they
still liked me. Whenever we played our rivals the friends from the other camp
always wanted me to play well, but for my team to lose. I wanted my friends
that played for the other team to do well, but for us to win. When we
didn't play them, I wanted them to beat whoever they played, and
vice-versa. Learn to get along. You have more that unites you than
that divides you.I hope both Reilly brothers go on to have stellar
The sad truth is a trend has been set by these athletes that have a negative
impact on future LDS athletes. A growing issue that BYU and Bronco have
created. Many programs outside of Utah will not recruit LDS athletes because
there is a high probability they will want to transfer back to Utah, in most
cases BYU after they return 3 examples that come to mind, Nelson, Wadsworth and
Reilly. Coach Chow is doing the right thing. The kid made a commitment and
they should honor that commitment. I'm sure Reilly lived in an
environment for two years that he had to rely on his up bringing and moral
beliefs to see him through. Staying at CSU could provide many missionary
opportunities for him. His selfish decision will impact other future
missionaries from being recruited. BYU coaches must end this and encourage
these young athletes to honor their commitments.
"Trevor, who signed with Texas Tech out of high school, found himself at
Utah following his own mission service and encouraged Drew to seek out
opportunities at both Utah or BYU in order to find a better fit for him
socially.""This is really telling of his character. I would
be cautious of this kid.""The truth hurts... BYU does not
have the talent to be among the elite..."So if Drew had decided
to go to Utah instead of BYU, the same trolls who are questioning this
kid's "character" and "talent", would be extolling the
virtues of his sound decision making and his amazing athletic ability.The finite mind of the hill trolls never ceases to amaze.Welcome
to Cougar Nation Drew!
@ worf, You can have all the Sunday school boys you want. BYU is loaded with
them. I'm pleased to see that Utah's latest and greatest recruiting is
resembling the "complexion" of a perennial Alabama squad, or the likes.
I think the Utes will crush the "Sunday school boys" again on 9-15-12.
@ Braxton, very well said sir. What you say is a fact. It also happened back in
the early 1980s when I was on the UH golf team.
I remember when I was recruited by UH, Ed Chui, the golf coach, specifically
asked if I was LDS, and if so, how LDS was I? We had zero LDS golfers on our
team........and I think I know why. Being a "Romney" from SLC, Utah
originally...........I've ALWAYS gotten all sorts of questions like that
throughout my life. It gets quite comical many times. Cheers!
Braxton, your comments really sound of "I hate the fact that BYU is going to
benefit from LDS transfers more than Utah." BYU is a church run school.
This should be no surprise at all honestly.
I think BYU needs a gazillion more guys like Jim McMahon again........the
coolest athlete to ever attend that school by far!
It is good he found a slot at BYU because I doubt he could have made the team at
BYU may have some advantages with missionaries, but it works two ways because of
the honor code.
Hi Drew!Welcome to Cougar Nation!
When BYU recruited me.............as I examined the bland, uninteresting
curriculum, found out that i was required to take 16 semester hours of religion
courses, was required to have a continual religious advisor to approve me, then
read the "honor code" demands................deal breaker. I actually
laughed, then my mom slapped me because of what I said the the BYU dept.
head.......very funny scenario. I'm way glad that I went to Utah and
Hawaii. I got a great education and had a blast!
@Pac12Commie" going from CSU to BYU is a lateral move while trying to
earn a spot at Utah would be a challenge."Hmph...it obviously
wasnt a big deal for his brother Trevor to walk on at Utah and not only get a
scholly but also get significant playing time to boot on a defense ranked merely
in the top 40. Judging by the actions of both Drew & ute player Trevor, they
both seemed to have realized that they had utah as an easy fall-back option if
it proved too difficult finding an opportunity with Bronco's 13th ranked
defense.Possibly Trevor is suffering from a case of buyers remorse
seeing as how he personally drove Drew down to BYU first. He was probably
thinking, "Lets start with your Cadillac plan first at BYU and then
we'll work our way down the list to the guaranteed-in-the-bag options like
utah State, Weber, Utah, SUU, Dixie, etc."
I agree with Braxton. On a case by case basis I don't really blame kids
that want to transfer to better fit their situation. But I wish it wasn't
the trend that it seems to be. It will affect the marginal LDS athlete the most.
The kid who just want to go to school on a scholarship, but less and less
schools will give him a good look because they don't want to deal with the
hassle. I don't blame any of the athletes that want to transfer, but you
can't really blame coaches who would discourage a mission and athletes from
When BYU recruited me...............YIKES! That meeting lasted less than 3
minutes.......a waste of my time!
"JLFullerBoise, IDIt is good he found a slot at BYU because I
doubt he could have made the team at Boise State.:)"Boise has
done more with less. There is no question. They may also
occasionally do better in recruiting but, for the most part if there is a Tanner
Mangum available he is going to pick BYU over Boise.
Congratulations for focusing on what matters in life. Long after the BCS becomes
irrelevant, as if it weren't already, your personal journey will be
rewarded for your decision. Best wishes from an unapologetic fellow Sunday
The anti-BYU troll comments are as telling as Reilly's decision. You can
tell a person's character by their friends, or in this case by their
I happen to know that the coaching staff at Utah was ELATED when Norm Chow left.
Unfortunately, that player that wanted to transfer from Hawaii to BYU had to
deal with Chow instead of someone who has the best interest of his players at
Tanner Mangum is Jake Heaps part deux. I saw his pathetic performance in the
Under Armour game......two picks, should have been five. I'm glad he will
be at BYU, so Utah State can eat his lunch. Utah won't be scheduling
BYU........Big 10 games are in Utah's future! Ya GOTTA love it baby!
Can Utah Hawaii Alum just get a twitter account?That way, when any
old idea randomly pops into his head, he can tweet it, rather than wasting our
time on a story about Drew Reilly with stories about the 1980's, his family
background, and how he enjoyed college thirty years ago?
You gotta love how obsessed these ute fans are Utah-Hawaii Alum chris b you all
know who you are. it took 3 articles (Reilly, McKay J. and Nick E. ) to reach
161 comments and it took 16 articles to reach 113 comments on the utes side so
who is irrelevant and I only counted the ones that have comments sad so very sad
Way to go Drew. Looks like you Aimed High!
"Utah-Hawaii AlumDallas, TXWhen BYU recruited
me...............YIKES! That meeting lasted less than 3 minutes.......a waste of
my time!"I'm guessing by your comments you were a 5 star DB
that turned down USC?
@ WON84, no sir, I was a very gifted shadow boxer like jan Jorgensen and later
went on to sell peanuts and cotton candy at Utah Jazz games like Max Hall does
now. Thanks for asking though. Cheers!
@Utah-Hawaii AlumWhat we want to know is how do you feel about
Justin Beiber, and what are you eating for dinner.BTW, Jim McMahon
was a stud, so posting that was exciting, but not really more than
Utah-Hawaii Alum"Big 10 games are in Utah's future!"What you're really saying is that 2011 provided a reality check for
utedom that perennial middle of the pac, losing conference records will be the
norm from now on, so the only way Utah was going to qualify for a bowl was to
schedule a bunch of OOC patsies. Now that the pac is forcing Utah to play a Big
10 team as one of those OOC opponents, there'll be lots of bowless seasons
ahead for the Utes.GOTTA love it baby!
@ Veritas, well sir, I have a poster of the Beibs on the ceiling of my bedroom.
He also autographed my left chest.........I didn't shower for 4 months
after that! I think I'll eat a can of Walmart brand Spaghetti-Os
tonight.And yes, Jimmy Mac was the real deal for sure!
@ Uteanonymous, Jordan Wynn went down and we had to play a D2 QB for most of the
season. Plus, 2011 was a rebuilding year for the Utes. Now, 2012 and the
foreseeable future looks great for Utah.............We will crush BYU again this
"Jordan Wynn went down and we had to play a D2 QB for most of the
season."Blame that on K-Whitless for converting all of his QB
recruits to other positions and leaving his QB cupboard bare with nothing but an
injured, injury-prone starter. If Chow hadn't been smart enough to see the
gaping hole in K-Whit's QB roster, the Utes would have been stuck playing
one of those pathetic QBs from spring practice.btw, BYU also played
their backup QB most of the season, but unlike K-Whit, Bronco was smart enough
to have a well-stocked QB cupboard.If BYU is such a pushover, why
are the Utes running away from BYU to play teams like Northern Colorado?
9/15 will indeed be a very sad day if you are wearing red. At least it
won't be a conference loss.
Utah schedules a cupcake 1st game every season, like most major programs do.
Utah also has contracts with the second best program in Utah......Utah State.
BYU is a struggling WAC mid-major, so why should we play them only every once in
a while? Utah is getting ready to schedule a Big 10 home and home series. Oregon
just inked a deal with Michigan State. That is why Utah will DUMP BYU. And, I
am thrilled about it. Cheers!
"Utah schedules a cupcake 1st game every season, like most major programs
do. Utah also has contracts with the second best program in Utah......Utah
State."It's good to see that you're finally beginning
to accept reality that you're only the 3rd best program in Utah. Obviously,
you've still got a few rationalization issues to work out before
you're willing to admit that the Utes are running away from the Cougars
with your redtailed feathers between your legs.Spin it anyway that
helps you sleep at night, but, unlike the Buffs who have extended their rivalry
with CSU to 2020, the Utes are chickening out their rival.
If anyone is interested in a few highlights from his Freshman year at CSU check
I've seen this kid play since high school and he's a legit talent. BYU
passed on him because they passed on his big brothers, AJ and Trevor, and we
know what a mistake it was to pass on Trevor. He's up a the U killing it!
I'm glad to hear Drew wants into BYU and CSU let him go. I will
say that I heard through the grapevine that his release was NOT unconditional.
There were a few schools that CSU blocked, the schools on their schedule. So
I'd back of Chow, if he doesn't want one of his former players playing
against him I don't blame him.Drew has the size, speed and
passion to be a player at the Y. You don't call someone a quitter who is a
starting DI safety and wants a better life for himself, you call him brilliant
and gutsy - the perfect player for the BYU program.
Phoenix, honestly I'm not sure it's Utah who is pulling the plug. I
don't think BYU wants to waste a valuable September slot on a small school
when they could be playing a Texas even if it is on the road or on a two for one
To the FLoridian (Pac12commish): You are too far away to see how the Utah
schools match up. There are plenty of problems for you to fix in that state,
aren't there? Do you have interschool transfers there? Is Central
Florida taking over the football spotlight? How does that feel? For that
matter, how about Urban's move to the midwest. He has already run out of
friends with his antics there.
Braxton, your comments show a very large gap in NCAA football knowledge. Have
you never heard of other athletes transferring from one school to another? Have
you never heard of RM's playing their entire career at schools other than
Utah or BYU? How many do I need to list for you to stop putting your foot in
Utah-Hawaii Alum needs to take a deep breath and calm down. If the Honor Code
offends you, you were not as pleased as BYU that you chose to attend another
school. Thanks for taking the other side.
Hey Utah-Hawaii Alum, I didn't know Utah had a golf team. That was a good
recruting decision!! BYU must not have really been interested, who would make
the decision to play golf at Utah if they had a real offer from BYU
@jvsConsidering BYU won the Golf National Championship in the early
80's, when utah-hawaii claims to have been "recruited" to play
there, I don't think BYU missed his "talents" all that much.LOL!
BYU was good back then for sure! Much better than our UH team. However, UH is a
great school, better than BYU, I had a full ride scholly and lived in paradise!
Who wouldn't wanna go to Hawaii for FREE?
@ Duckhunter,I was recruited by BYU in 1981 to play in their jazz
music program. I only listened to their babble because the director of
BYU's "Synthesis" jazz band was directed by a great friend of mine
Ray Smith. He is a fine man and phenomenal sax player. I chose Utah because it
is a much finer program better full ride scholarship and better college
education. I graduated in 3 1/2 years and was offered a full ride golf
scholarship at UH and received my MBA in economics there..........and, had a
blast I can assure you sir! Cheers!
"full ride scholly" for golf? Um...do those even exist? Anywhere?
@ Nevadacoug,Yes, there are only a few NCAA Div 1 full ride golf
scholarships available every year. I got U of Hawaii's only one in 1984.
Both of my lil' bros had full rides to Utah(golf), but they were unreal
players and offered full rides from BYU, but declined over the phone and never
spoke to Karl Tucker( BYU's great golf coach) in person........I was
"OK" at best...........My last year I was ranked 82nd in the
nation........not very good, but not horrible either, but I sure had fun and
received a great education in paradise. I have always felt extremely fortunate
BYU was great in everything during the 1970s-80s...........because they had a
ton of money. I lived it, I know what went down.............NOW, that advantage
is gone...........because the NCAA rules have changed after BYU won that BOGUS
1984 NC in football. That is why there is a BCS now folks. SMU, BYU and Notre
Dame, all big money schools during that era, haven't been heard from
since.......there is a REASON for that!
Utah-Hawaii AlumCould be the most interesting man alive.How's the Two X's commercials coming along?
Nowadays, it is very complicated to buy an athlete. Back when I was a scholly D1
athlete.........very easy.......and BYU had a ton of money. They did well, not a
hard fact to know why???????????????
@ Veritas,I probably am the "most interesting man" you would
ever meet.......which isn't saying that much as I see it..... but, you are
a Y fan?????? That speaks volumes son! Bwahahahahaha!
@utah-hawaii"Interesting" like a trainwreck is interesting.
Is this a comment board or therapy session for Utah-Hawaii?
Utah-Hawaii"BYU was great in everything during the
1970s-80s...........because they had a ton of money."You're
full of distortions and inuedos, but short on substance and reality.BYU was great in the 70's and 80's because BYU had great athletes
and great coaches.Much to the chagrin of our little brothers,
BYU's overall athletic program has dominated Utah for decades and that
trend continues today. All of your rants and hyperbole won't change the
reality that in 2011-12, BYU BEAT Utah in 11 of the 15 head-to-head
matchups. For the 12th time in BYU history, the Cougars finished in
the Top 25 in football AND played in the NCAA basketball tournament in the same
academic year.Any guesses on how many times the "mighty"
utes have done that?Hint: You can easily count it on one hand with
fingers to spare.
Hello gents, I suggest you fine fellows relish in your struggling BYU football
program before the LDS officials in SLC scrap the program after ESPN dumps BYU.
It will happen. They will NOT take the embarrassment anymore. I'll look
forward to reading your comments/rationalizations when that day
arrives...........which will be within the next 5-8 years for sure. Enjoy your
People keep saying it was a classy move by Colorado. It was the best decision
for the team. Having a malcontent who doesn't want to be on your team could
become very toxic. People keep on saying it was a classy move, but I can't
imagine a coach would have simply let this kid go with no strings attached if
they really thought he was going to make an impact for their team.
Utah-Hawaii AlumDallas, TXHello gents, I suggest you fine fellows
relish in your struggling BYU football program before the LDS officials in SLC
scrap the program after ESPN dumps BYU.===What you meant was
"struggling 'top 25' football program"...
@Hawaii-UtahFor struggling, embarrassing, irrelevant, unranked,
fan-base rationalizing, see 8th-place finishing, bottom of the pac loser to
sissy b: you're such a pill. i do appreciate your well thought out
I think it would have been better for the LDS Church if he had stayed at CSU and
been an example of LDS standards. The regularity with which LDS players commit
to then transfer from other schools to BYU has got to leave a bitter taste when
recruiting LDS athletes in the future.When he says he was having a
tough time living an LDS lifestyle at CSU, it kind of makes you wonder.
@cvalKids transfer all of the time from every single school in the
counry for a lot of different reasons. His older brother transfered to utah.
Tere is no more frequency of kids transferring to BYU than anywhere else. Maybe
the reasons are different but who cares what the reasons are? If you don't
fit the enviroment then it is best to go elsewhere. My guess is you'd
probably applaud a kid that transfers from BYU because he he doesn't want
to live the honor code and a clean enviroment. And no it does not
make me wonder what he meant about "having a hard time". I'm sure
he was living the churches standards just fine but lacked many peers that lived
the same way. He probably had teamates and roomates that were doing plenty of
things contrary to his personal standards and simply wanted to be around others
that live the way he wants to live. Who knows what kind of player
he'll turn out to be but at least he is now in a place that suits his
personal standards and morals more closely.
BYU coaches missed badly on Trevor. He wanted to go to BYU after his mission but
BYU coaches didn't offer him so he did the next best thing he could and
went up the road to Utah. He's going to turn a lot of heads this season and
was one of their best playmakers on D last year.I'm glad BYU
coaches had the good sense not to let his lil' Bro do the same.