I am happy that these often over-looked verses are being examined, but let us
look a little more closely than some are looking. It is clear that nothing in
them takes agency from the children. It simply says that parents with these
qualities will "teach" their children these values and actions and
"not suffer" or allow endless fighting and quarreling. It doesn't
necessarily mean children will not choose to rebel against their parents
influence. That is the nature of agency. I do believe that parents with these
qualities that continue in loving wayward children, teaching when inspired to do
so and praying always, will most often see those children blessed by their
A promise is a promise and I believe that promise. It may not come today, but
it will come. I am willing to wager Lehi and Brigham Young, etc. would agree.
I love the illustration. All metaphors should have palm trees. Joseph was at his
best in his revolutionary understanding of Heavenly Father's love for us in
the King Benjamin sermon. Of course some kids fight and sin, but they will be
reconciled, either in this life or the next, if we strive to earn the right to
the temple promises. It amazes me how people so easily forget the keystone of
the restored gospel: eternal progression.
Mercy.my family have received the promises decribed and I am so gratefull and
If we think in the eternal perspective we can have all these promises. It is
one thing to "contend" with one's sibling and another to simply
disagree. When I read about the relationship Hyrum and Joseph Smith had, they
not only lived for each other, but were willing to die for each other. I'm
sure they may have had disagreements in their lives, but ultimately, they were
taught by their parents not to be disagreeable. I taught my sons that
nothing in this world is worth sacrificing their relationship. Have they had
disagreements? Of course. Do they contend with each other? Absolutely not. The Lord would not have included these promises in the BOM unless He provided
a way for their implementation. Some things manifest themselves by hope faith
and work; and some times we must trust in the Lord's timeline if we want
certain promises to come to fruition.
RE: King Benjamin. So let’s go back to the preceding verse to see what the
challenge or condition is that leads to the promises. Verse 11 of Mosiah 4. An earlier promise in Mosiah 3:25, “And if they do evil they are
consigned to an awful view of their own guilt and abominations, which doth cause
them to shrink from the presence of the Lord into a state of misery and endless
torment, from whence they can no more return; therefore they have drunk
damnation to their own souls.”10.And ye yourselves will succor(help)
those that stand in need of your succor(help) . Succor=(Boētheō Greek
997, to help).
I first thought that the premise of this article was pretty funny. Now the more
I think about it, it kind of makes me sad. Because you know there is some
parent out there that is feeling pretty guilty that their kids fight and
don't follow God's laws. Then the parent reads this article and
thinks "Oh all I have to do is be humble and my kids will fall in line."
When that doesn't work they feel even more guilty for not being humble
enough. I'm sorry but I really don't see how this is helpful.
Once again is heard in the land another formula for guaranteed happiness...
There are no guarantees over someone else's moral agency. The only one we
can truly change in Godly ways is ourself although we can influence for good
every day, and that influence is powerful. When we do good, we're granted
greater power to continue on. We also find a driving ambition to do all the
things Heavenly Father wants us to do as parents in order to provide our
children's best environment so that they will get along better with each
other and us. We'll make sure they're fed, even if we skip meals,
ourselves. We'll live our religion towards our neighbors by providing
relief to those who seek it at our hand. And so forth. I can't speak for
the Church and I won't presume to do that. I know that any less than happy
family life will be made up to me and mine if I do everything in my power to
provide the atmosphere for eternal happiness to germinate. Those promises are
true. We've all got important lessons to learn, including our children,
friends and neighbors.
Huh,my first comment must have been too subersive for the moderators. I guess
I'll try again.Even though I'm a pretty unexperienced
parent I think I can give better parenting advice than: be humble, pray. How
about this: Spend time with your kids, be genuinely interested in the things
they are interested in, love them even if they are quarelsome or "trangress
the laws of God."
Certainly there is more to parenting then humbling yourself before God. These
simple promises can't all be true. Pay tithing have more money. Be humble
your kids will not fight etc... Some kids are just plain rotten, some are
Note to Lehi and Sarah; Joseph Smith; Brigham Young; Adam and Eve: If you would
only have been a bit more humble your children would not have strayed.
Thank you for your perceptive article. I noticed in my last reading of these
verses that they are indeed promises, not commands. What an insight. The focus
is not a checklist of "to do's," but our relationship with God.