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Published: Tuesday, April 24 2012 2:25 p.m. MDT

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Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

Reasons not to vote for Romney:
He's a Mormon.
He's rich.
He's been successful in business.
He has a reputation for flip-flopping (although it is questionable).
He is "out of touch" with people.

Reasons not to vote for Obama:
Unemployment is STILL over 8%.
Number of employed people is going down.
Gas prices are rising.
He shoved an unconstitutional health care bill down our throats, opposed by most citizens and supported by only Democrats, some of whom were bribed in some way (not to mention blatantly breaking many campaign promises on the way).
Lowered the U.S. credit rating.
Record high deficits.
National debt rising at an alarmingly fast rate.
Passes bills that forces medical workers to perform an abortion even if it violates their moral beliefs (aka restricting freedom of religion).
Comments made to foreign leaders when he thought no one could hear him (what's he hiding?).

All things considered, I know exactly who I'm voting for in November. As horrible as it is to have a successful guy lead the nation, I'm willing to take that risk. Heaven forbid we prosper as a nation!

Hemlock
Salt Lake City, UT

Obama's campaign has, through their NYT surrogate, implied that Romney would make a terrible president because he does not use alcohol. The president cannot tout his own record so he is running on non-issues such as the "war on women," religion, Romney's successful business acumen, statements that being a mother of five does not have the same value as working outside the home, etc. Strange talk for someone ushering in the post-partisan era. The only change I can believe in is not voting for him again.

omni scent
taylorsville, UT

To Riverton Cougar
"Unemployment still over 8%" when he took over, jobs were being lost at a rate pf 400,000/week. Now, I know 8% isn't good, but I'll take it over continuing the policies that made is drop like a stone.
"Gas prices rising" actually, the last couple weeks, they have started dropping again. They got high when things were looking tense with Iran, but talks have cooled things down, and the prices are slightly dropping. They are still below the all-time peak of 2008.
"Shoved unconstitutional healthcare bill down our throat" do you mean the one that took months of negotiations, where republicans offered no solutions themselves? The one where Obama compromised until he passed the Heritage Foundations plan (that Romney himself used).
"Lowered the US credit rating" that was the tea-party congressmen who voted no on rasing the debt ceiling. You would see that if you read the explanation from the credit rating agency
"Record high deficits/debt rising" the things that have cost the most in the Obama presidency are the economic downturn of 2008, the wars on Iraq and Iran, and continuing the Bush tax cuts.

no fit in SG
St.George, Utah

Reasons not to vote for Romney

Does not tell the truth
Frequently changes his mind on issues
Does not seem to know how to treat and speak to those who are not of his privileged class without offending them
Many cannot relate or understand his religion
Not tuned into the needs of middle class and poor women
Misspeaks often. The nation will hold it's breath he first time he speaks to a foreign leader, unless they are French:)
Does not like to speak of his family's past history
Took computers home along with his Massachusett's Governing emails and history at the end of his term
Ships much of his fortune to foreign shores where it is kept secret
Never had to struggle to pay bills, mortgage, buy food, pay medical bills, repay student loans
Waiting til right before election to reveal 2011 tax return
(to be continued tomorrow after we see his gaffs today)

omni scent
taylorsville, UT

"Passes bills that force medical workers to perform an abortion" now that is just totally false. If it is true, please cite evidence.

The reasons not to vote for Romney are that he wants to double down on the policies that got us so wrong in the first place.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

All things considered, I'll stick with obama.

A1994
Centerville, UT

I can understand why people voted for Obama the first time. But it takes sheer, bull-headed, stubborn pride to vote for him a second time. He is the most inexperienced president we've ever had (at least in the last 100 years) and he's running against one of the most qualified candidates we've had. The only response from him and his supporters is to blame the last guy. Not working anymore.

IdahoStranger
NEWDALE, ID

The article is correct - we need to know them - both of them.

And after you find that out you will discover there is not a dime's worth of difference between them.
See for yourselves:
Google "Romney & Obama the Same video" and compare. It only takes 10 minutes.

Darrel
Eagle Mountain, UT

@A1994

Right now President Obama has 3 years experience of being POTUS than any Republican candidate running.

He had exactly as much as his opponent when they he was first elected.

In fact, most Presidents that are elected have that same amount of experience.

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

"do you mean the one that took months of negotiations, where republicans offered no solutions themselves?"

No, you must be mistaken. The republicans DID offer solutions, but of course I'm sure you haven't heard of any of them through the news you watched. Obama even admitted at one point that they did in fact have a solution, then went back to his lie.

"the things that have cost the most in the Obama presidency are the economic downturn of 2008, the wars on Iraq and Iran, and continuing the Bush tax cuts."

If that's what cost our country so much, then why weren't they as high under Bush? If Bush's stuff is what kept the deficits so high, why were Obama's deficits so much higher? Your logic makes no sense. Obama is pulling the "it's Bush's fault!" card, and people are dumb enough to fall for it.

@Darrel,

I think you and I both know he's not talking specifically about POTUS experience, but leadership experience. In fact, at this point Obama's "experience" is hurting him. Despite never having been POTUS, Romney is more qualified than Obama.

omni scent
taylorsville, UT

Riverton Cougar, perhaps you could enlighten us with all the suggestions the GOP made on healthcare, plans that would cover those with pre-existing conditions. (And no, "Tort Reform" wouldn't help)
I have MS, and I'm greatful to have a good job with a good health plan. Reciently Romney said he wanted to disconnect employer health plans, and have people buy them on their own. Well, for me, that would end my care: how can I afford a health plan without being on a work plan that doesn't discriminate for pre-existing conditions?

Why didn't Bush have as high of deficits? Because when he left office, the economy was still rocketing downward, it hadn't hit bottom yet. And with only 3-4 months of the great recession to pay for, not as bad as Obama's 3 years.
What policy has Obama done that costs so much? Google the figure "Policy Changes Under Two Presidents". (Summary: Bush $5.07T, Obama $1.44T)

tenx
Santa Clara, UT

Of the two I think BO is more polarizing, mainly because of the lessons he learned and follows from Saul Alinsky.

•“An organizer must stir up dissatisfaction and discontent.”
•Rule 13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it and polarize it.”
•Both quotes; Saul Alinsky.

Lane Myer
Salt Lake City, UT

A1994
Centerville, UT
I can understand why people voted for Obama the first time. But it takes sheer, bull-headed, stubborn pride to vote for him a second time.

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But Mitt will just be GW Bush on steroids per the policies that he has championed so far. I would NOT vote for Bush a third time no matter what. Why would you want to have the same policies in place that put us in such a bind the first time?

That is insane. Nothing against Romney, but he does not have any new ideas. Just old ones that have been proven NOT to work.

williary
Kearns, UT

@Riverton Cougar
“He has a reputation for flip-flopping (although it is questionable).”
Seriously? That’s like saying John Kerry had a slight tendency to change positions! Mitt has completely reinvented himself, a couple times. Moderate Gov., Moderate POTUS candidate, Right-Wing candidate, and is already morphing back into the Moderate candidate, depending on who is listening!
“If Bush's stuff is what kept the deficits so high, why were Obama's deficits so much higher?”
Really? Case #1 took over a yearly Gov. surplus, Case #2 took over a Depression that Case #1 started. And you can’t understand why Case #2 has spent more money? It’s unfortunate Case #2 has had to spend money to try and get us out of the Depression he inherited. “

“Romney is more qualified than Obama.”
Mod. Gov who apparently reinvented himself from the Mitt of today in order to get elected in Mass. Business experience sitting in an office, firing employees, breaking apart companies, and selling them. Became wealthy by doing nothing, other than playing the Wall Street game. Contributed nothing to society, or the American economy, other than adding to the unemployment rate. Not to mention his 47th ranked job creation record as Gov.

Lane Myer
Salt Lake City, UT

Riverton Cougar: "If that's what cost our country so much, then why weren't they as high under Bush? If Bush's stuff is what kept the deficits so high, why were Obama's deficits so much higher?"

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Bush's administration kept both wars OUT of the budget. They were off the books, while Obama immediately added them back in to show us what is really happening to our budget in Washington.

Bush's wars have been added back into his total now and you can see that he was running great deficits too. Two unfunded wars, medicare pharms and tax cuts for the rich - ALL unpaid for. Yep. That'll do it. Especially when there is a downturn in the economy and we stop collecting income tax on another 6% of the population. See where Clinton's surplus went?

Mark B
Eureka, CA

Not even Eric knows just what to make of "Who's the most polarizing?" because it has nothing to do with presidential success. About all we could conclude is that if YOUR favorite candidate is perceived as "more polarizing", that means the OTHER candidate's operation is successfully muddying the real issues. The article on battleground states is much more informative.

m.g. scott
LAYTON, UT

Obama is going to be the most polarizing because he now has a record. His most damaging record is taking the national debt from 10 trillion to 15 trillion in less than 4 years. For those of you who say it's Bush' fault, tell us just what Obama is doing to slow down the pace to 20 trillion. It's like Obama is the captain of the Titanic and even though we know we're headed toward the iceberg, he not only doesn't change course, but says "full speed ahead". I'm sorry to all of you Obama supporters, but after a complete term, 4 years in office, it is his economy. Blaming Bush won't play any longer, especially for re-election.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

"...Gallup admits it is not totally sure what its intensity measure will prove...".

Enough said.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

One guy really, Really, REALLY wants Romney to win = 1 vote.
Another guy wants Obama to win = 1 vote.

All votes tallied up, Obama wins by a landslide.

Intensity [i.e., Team Spirit] only matters at High School football games.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

An intensity measure can show how motivated people are to show up at the polls. The fact that Obama has more polarizing numbers than Romney though doesn't really show anything other than the fact he's an incumbant and everyone tends to already have their mind made up about incumbants.

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