Howell wins Democratic nomination for U.S. Senate race
Hatch's seniority is invaluable. That alone is why he's worth keeping.
He's done so much for Utah. It's time for folks to turn off their talk
radio and think in terms of what's best for the state. Hatch is our guy.
I'm not a Hatch hater but 36 years is long enough. Hatch's seniority
argument is a canard. First, the Republicans would have to take the Senate.
Certainly not guaranteed at this point. Then, Hatch would have to take action as
a committee chairman different than any other republican in the position. Not
likely. I don't like that I've heard more from him since Bennett lost
his job than I did for the previous 34 years. I don't like that he did
nothing to curb Republicans expanding entitlement spending when they had the
house, senate, and presidency. I don't like that the debt ceiling
continues to be raised on his watch. I don't like tepid leadership in tough
times. I definately don't like Ruth Bader Ginsberg. The senate is in the
middle of substancial turn-over lets get a new mind in the game now.
makes me wonder what a republican does during a primary election. Being
that they care less about the person, just as long as they have an R by their
name.What do they do when they can just vote straight ticket; and ignore
the rest of the ballot?But seriously, can we get the republican party to
pay for the primary election?why do taxpayers have to pay for this
fiasco?When everyone knows hatch will win by like 90%
To Kalindra,I certainly understand your concern about those of us from
outside of Utah commenting on Senator Hatch and his re-election. I have just
one question for you, "Where does Sen Hatch generate most of campaign fund
from?" I'll give you a hint, it is not from Utah.
What do you call a senator who has been in the senate for 36 years? You call him
home.Everything I hate about our current government originated in
the tenure of Senator Hatch. Its one thing to be there when lack of reason
prevails; its another to throw your hat in with everyone else.Hatch
has voted for the debt that is now crushing our children.
Please get Hatch out!He's had his chance to help our State.
He's served admirally, but it's time for someone else. New Ideas!
Please! Ask yourself...what is his motivation? When I'm that
old, I hope I have the freedom to enjoy my family and such. I don't
understand his motives, except that he is addicted to the power that comes with
the office.A true American would allow others the chance to serve.
He's selfish to think he's the only person from Utah who cares about
or can help Utah.
Re: Deseret News: If you're going to mention FreedomWorks attacking Sen.
Hatch, please be fair enough to also mention FreedomPath, American Action
Network, and other Hatch-friendly super PACs who have spent hundreds of
thousands of dollars attacking Liljenquist.
CatsSomewhere in Time, UTInteresting that so many who are going to
"write liljenquist a check" don't even live in Utah.============ and Why not?Hatch isn't from Utah,
and hasn't lived here in over 36 years.
Why not write an article titled, Hatch forced into a primary despite the
millions he outspent his opponent. Instead the article talks about the money
Freedom works gave to oust Hatch. Deseret News is helping Hatch too by writing
slanted articles. He has money, the press and all the name people like Mitt. I
cannot tell you how happy I am that some people saw through all that and looked
at the voting record of Hatch.
HEY IDAHOANS (aka Dan Liljenquist's family), Stay out of our states
politics. You're as out of touch as your brother/cousin/son/nephew.
I'd be more worried about your own states politicians than sticking your
nose where it does not belong. GO HATCH. Dan is so full of hot air, I am
surprised he has not floated away. What so sad is Dan put's politics first.
Making his wife basically a single Mom raising his 6 kids. If he cannot even
take care of the people who should matter most, how can we trust him in
Washington. Dan is not the right man to replace Hatch. He has not even been a
Utah resident for a decade and he does not give a flip about Hill AFB, the IRS
and other high profile employers. If Hill shut down, there would be no Northern
Utah economy. My family along with hundreds of thousands of others would be
forced to move. Dan could care less about that. He's a shameless
self-promoter and the most conceded politician I have ever witnessed. Wake up
Just maxed out for the Liljenquist campaign. His speech at convention was
powerful! I applaud the state delegates for doing their homework and forcing a
primary so we can all have a say in this race. Senator Hatch spent the last two
years and $7 Million dollars building a delegate base for the state convention.
He spent more out-of-state money than all the PACs combined. It still
didn't work. Dan's message resonated with the state delegates and will
now resonate with the rest of the citizens of Utah! The Senate is changing. 49
Senators have turned over since 2005 and 10 more Senators are retiring this
year. There is a youth movement taking place in the Senate. Hatch's old
guard are all retiring. Hatch's influence is shrinking, not growing. These
new Senators are building coalitions and relationships with each other, not with
the old guard. We need to join the ranks of the new Senators by voting Dan in as
our next US Senator from Utah. Let's move Utah forward now rather than
getting at the back of the line in 6 years or 12 years whenever Senator Hatch
decides to retire!
Folks, as a former Utahn I congratulate the delegates for voting with their
minds than with their loyalty to an old horse like Hatch. Although he has served
Utah well, from time to time, it is TIME to send him home now, not after his
lame-duck 7th term. He is begging for one more term. Why should we honor him
with that? He has done nothing for the country or the state these past 6 years.
He continues to line the pockets of his cronies for 36 years. Men who
shouldn't grace politics anymore. Hatch keeps those around him who, if the
people of the state of Utah really knew them, would be disgusted. If Hatch has a
choice between we the people and himself, he would chose himself first. He is
tired. He is old. Let Utahns send a message to Congress that seniority is not a
prerequisite for re-electability. Hatch is now 'begging' for your
votes. Don't give it to him. Make him sweat it out. Utah and the country
for that matter needs new blood, new leadership. Utah and the rest of us demand
Term Limits across the board.
@ Kalindra:Therein lies a major part of the problem in our country -
let's see what is in it for us or our State as opposed to what is best for
the entire country. In other words, do we judge our Senators by how much money
they can bring back to the state? Much of this is due to the fact
that we are allowing the fed. govt to be in areas that are not constitutionally
authorized, otherwise, there would not be all of that money for
"earmarks" and "pork". Most of it simply is not constitutional.
We must return to the Constitution and its limitations on govt or we will not
keep our American Republic for much longer.@ Peanut Gallery:While you are correct about them changing their voting habits as election time
rolls around, I find in the Freedom Index at The New American for 2012 that on
20 issues involving the Constitution and run away spending that Sen. Hatch
scored 70% in favor of the Constitution and decreased spending while
Idaho's Sen. Crapo scored just 65%. Sadly, neither of these gentlemen are
doing much to contribute to the restoration of Constitutional principles.
Sen. Crapo's endorsement of Sen. Hatch is only a professional courtesy, and
means nothing. If Hatch isn't there, then Crapo will be chairman of the
Senate Finance Committee, and he's more conservative than Hatch. Hatch is
conservative when it's CONVENIENT to be conservative. Re-election time is
a VERY convenient time for him to be conservative and make conservative
@ IdahoStranger: Every state has 2 senators - the guys from my state can't
do jack without the support of the guys from your state - if you don't like
what my guy is doing, then elect people from your state who will stand up to
him.Is is not the job of Hatch or Liljenquist to care what Idaho or
Wyoming or any state other than Utah wants - it is their job to do the best for
Utah. You can spend your time and money campaigning for Liljenguist - but I am
the one who gets to vote for (or against) him - guess who has more influence?
(There is a reason Hatch doesn't care about people in Idaho, why do you
think Liljenquist will?)You want somebody who is going to do what is
best for you? Get involved in the politics in your state and send someone with
a backbone to DC - someone who is willing to fight for the citizens of Idaho
instead of rolling over and playing dead.
The most interesting human phenomenon as it relates to politics is the emotional
desire to demonize the candidate people aren't supporting. Its unnecessary.
I'm voting for Dan because I think because at this stage in both he and
Sen. Hatch's respective lives, Dan is more energized, more passionate,
extremely intelligent, uniquely capable, and certainly untainted by power that
comes with living 36 years in the Washington bubbler. "To everything there
is a season" and that season for releasing Hatch is now if not 6, 12, or 18
years ago. Utah - Sen. Hatch will be just fine in retirement and so will we.
He's been well compensated for his service with money, power, and
adulation. We owe him nothing and he owes us nothing. I thank him for his
service but time for a change.
There is a MUCH better alternative than either of these guys. His name is Scott
Disco and 8 tracks have outlived their usefulness, but they were very much the
mainstay when hatch last faced a primary. Time to move on.
To the tea party and all of those who are not living in this state-Stay Out of Our Business! I love how you all care so much about term limits,
but only for our senators. Work on your own states. Utah has very little power
in congress with 4 (now) congressmen. The only thing we do have power in is the
senate and that, unfortunately, is because of longevity. Mike Lee, up to this
point, has dug in his heals and hasn't learned how to make things move.
Change is very slow. I find it ironic that those who are sooooo
conservative and for small local government are willing to take marching orders
from a large national base.Utahns do your homework and do
what's best for Utah, whatever you have researched and believe that is!
Can't help but notice many of the comments against Hatch are from out of
state. We need Hatch for another term. Utah needs hatch!
I don't want Hatch. I think he is bad for the United States and bad for
the state of Utah. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to plug my nose and
vote for him -- the lesser of the two evils -- in the primary. Why? Because
Liljenquist would be infinitely worse. Utah has already sent one embarrassment
to the Senate in 2010; I don' want that to happen again.
How can I find out how my delegate voted?
Regarding the comment by Kalindra about people from outside Utah
"interfering" in Utah politics:In as much as Utah's
(and every other state's) congressional delegations have their hands in my
pockets taking my money, then based on the First Amendment Right of Free Speech,
I believe it behooves myself all Americans to do what we can to teach correct
principles and the proper role of government throughout the land, Utah included.
So said Abraham Lincoln if you need a reference.If this offends
you, then please clean up your "own darn state" and get their hands out
of our pockets. Take a closer look and you will see their hands in your pockets
too. How long can this be allowed to continue?
I was not elected this year as a delegate because I announced my support for Dan
Liljenquist at caucus and my opposition to Hatch. A Hatch supporter replaced me.
To those few delegates at convention who pushed Hatch into his first primary,
you are to be inducted into the pantheon of rational thinkers by giving the rest
of us a chance to voice our opinion at the primary ballot box. A Romney
endorsement does not a viable candidate make (see Bob Bennett). I can decide to
vote for Dan Liljenquist based his merits without any help from Mitt or anyone
else telling me why we absolutely cannot survive as a Republic without Orrin
Hatch. Yes, Dan. . . it's time. . . YOUR time.
Now for the real question? Will the great unthinking people of Utah who have
keep him in Washington so long kick him to the curb?
I was at the state Republican convention today. Fortunately, I arrived in time
to hear Dan Liljenquist speak. I cannot adequately describe the energy that
surged through the audience when he spoke. I have never heard a better campaign
address. Dan spoke eloquently about his vision for the future, explained
concisely how he will achieve his goals, and completely mesmerized the crowd!
Dan said he believes in term limitations. He stated he would NOT serve for more
than 3 terms. Dan Liljenquist is Utah's choice for conservative government
in the 21st century. At his inaugural in 1961, President Kennedy stated,
"The torch has passed to a NEW generation!" Stand aside, Senator Hatch.
Time to make way for the baby boomers ge
Hatch voted for TARP -- to use our tax money to bail out the people who created
the housing bust. Do we really want him running the Senate Finance Committee?
This man has no clue about the proper role of government.If Hatch
meant to turn anything around, surely he would have made his move before now.
If it didn't happen in the last 35 years, what makes us think that the next
term will be any different?
At least the Senate race at the convention was a lot less contentious than the
2nd District race. Compared to the 2nd District race, all the Senate
candidates were choir boys.
IHC, the States most corrupt organization, in my opinion, has paid Hatch off to
maintain their monopoly and blocking other health care providers From competing
in a fair market. I can't wait to have my vote counted. Good riddance
As a Doctor , just returned from 8 years living in Europe, The shocking high
cost of American drugs, hit me like a mallet to the back of my head. Then I
followed up on references to the fact, that drugs cost 4-8 times as much here
compared to Europe, where their stats for long life are much better than in
America. Great news that we still have chance to Hatch home to roust. His
compaine is almost totally financed by the American Association of Drug
Manifactoring. His son owns the largest drug lobby business in Washington. Hatch
has sponsored multiple laws that exclusive benefit America's largest drug
companies. Getting him out of Washington, will help force American Drug
Marketeer, to allow import of superior, and less expensive drugs from around the
world. I was so happy to read that he must face the voters, and I hope
you will look at the way his is robbing the American People of affordable and
equally effective drugs available in a fee market ecomony.
Heard Dan on Glen Beck earlier this week, made the prediction this was going to
a primary and he was right.Made a lot of great points, got my
attention and plenty of delegates as well.Excited to see this
If Hatch spent nearly as much time, effort and money on doing his job instead of
running to get elected again, perhaps he would have been worth supporting.Instead, he has talked conservative here at home, and done the bare
minimum to get by in the Senate without irritating his "good friends across
the aisle."He should have been fighting tooth and nail against
every step Harry Reid has been taking, including objecting to every unanimous
consent vote. Tie the Senate in knots- doing nothing would be no worse than
what they have been doing.Hey, how's that Senate budget bill
coming anyway? You know, the one required by law every year that has not been
passed in three, going on four years? Dan for Senate!
Hatch is the man we need at this hour. This will be his last term.
I have nothing against Hatch personally. I think he's been as good a
Senator as their is. The problem is that there aren't any really great
Senators. The Senate is made up of so many people who seem to have lost touch
with reality to the point that they have neglected their duty to the tune of
$15,000,000,000,000. I have no doubt that in the mind of Senator
Hatch and many like him, they really mean well. But ALL of them have failed,
miserably. Republicans and Democrats. Why would we keep electing the same
people to the same office and get the same dysfunctional performance? I
don't think most of the U.S. Senate has a clue what's happening across
We need to send local citizens to represent us in Washington; citizens who have
been working and living in our world; citizens willing to put principle ahead of
reelection and lay it all on the line for us and our country for one term, or
two at most, and then go home and back to work in their real career. We need
our citizen representatives to keep their principal residence here at home, and
live among us when Congress is not in session. We need citizens serving us who
are willing to serve for nothing or for expense money and then return home
without a pension and without the honors and trappings and health insurance of
royalty. Career politicians are un-American. Retire them all!
Interesting that so many who are going to "write liljenquist a check"
don't even live in Utah.
Anyonewho claims seniority and experience are overrated obviosly has neither and
is trying to get elected over someone who has both.
What I want to do is what's up with all these people who live in states
other than Utah interfering in Utah politics?I'm no fan of
Hatch, but shouldn't ya'all be worrying about your own Reps and Sens
and let us worry about ours?Mind your own darn state.....
Maybe if his good friend Teddy Kennedy was still around Teddy Boy could have
helped him. Hatch has been present when a lot of the problems we now have were
just baby problems and Hatch has been more concerned about things like the Dream
Act. Ilegals might just lose a friend now. Funny Orin gets real Conservative
around election time but goes off the Reservation in between elections. Go Dan
Time for some education. Like many of you, I too was for term limits until I
read this:Concerning term limits, which were considered by the
Founding Fathers during theConstitutional Convention of 1787, Alexander
Hamilton wrote in The Federalist, No. 72:"Nothing appears more
plausible at first sight, nor more ill-founded upon closeinspection."Google "Term limits temptations" and
download a copy and then please carefully read it.After doing so, I
think you will change your tune as I did and agree with Alexander Hamilton
..."nor more ill-founded upon close inspection."There is
simply "No Substitute for Eternal Vigilance". Without a
constitutionally informed electorate, we simply will not keep our Republic.
There are no quick fixes.God Bless America and may we prove worthy
that He should.
Prayer works! Vote for the businessman every time; not the career politician.
We all need to get to work, in June of 2010, I think a total of 15,000
people voted in that Primary in a state of almost 3 million. Many people are
too busy in June to vote.
Every time I hear one of Hatch's scare tactic radio ads I just laugh. What
spin. As if new senators and new ideas wouldn't work. I have voted for
Hatch many times, but when will congress of the last 30 years take their blame
for the financial mess we are in. They are all to blame! Neither
the republicans nor the democrats have done nothing wrong, it was the other
side. That is what is wrong. We need better representation across the
board.In Utah we need more voices than just republicans.
An April 8, 2010 article in Deseret News entitled "Hatch faces voter anger
at town hall meetings" states: "[O]ne man suggested a
constitutional amendment to ban Congress from exempting itself from the laws
that it passes for others — and the audience roared with cheers. When
Hatch said that would create more problems than it might solve, several booed
and yelled out catcalls." Another paragraph states "When Hatch was
giving a long comment about health care reform, one man interrupted, yelling,
'Will you repeal it?' When Hatch said, 'I favor repeal, but it
isn't that simple,' many grumbled in the audience." Orrin Hatch also supported the nomination of Cass Sunstein who said "We
don’t need any more laws passed by congress, we can do everything we want
to do with regulation." This is why Orrin Hatch is no longer
qualified to serve Utah. He has Potomac fever in its advanced stages. I
don't believe the majority of Utahns find these statements and positions by
Hatch in harmony with their views. You're one step closer. Utah, Bring
I can't help but wonder how many of these folks that are so happy the
Republicans now need a primary, and are thus singing praises to the Caucus
System in place, have changed their opinion since Bob Bennett was retired under
the same system. Mr. Bennett surely showed everyone the true side of "term
limits" and for less than one percentage point Dan L is sure singing a happy
tune. I hope he is as positive if he loses the primary.
So glad about this ... I plan to write Liljenquist a check and to campaign
AGAINST Hatch. It's time for him to go ... he should have gone gracefully
and by his own choice. Glad this was the outcome today.
The retirement of arrogant career politicians like McCain and Hatch is what the
tea party movement is all about. No more compromise. We need term limits. Get
in, do the job, get out.
Unfortunately Orin Hatch embodies all that is wrong with career politicians and
represents reasons why we desperately need to mandate term limits. Our Founding
Fathers never intended Congress to be composed of representatives whose entire
lives, or a majority thereof, was spent in D.C. While I have all the respect in
the world for geriatrics our Congressmen and Senators should not be included
Those who caused governmental cancer say they can now cure it. Time for new
Let's not rush to judgment. Can Liljenquist ever write a song about his
hero Ted Kennedy...I think not. Can Liljenquist ever speak at the Democrat
convention or at least ask to do do...I think not. Can Liljenquist praise
extreme lefties for the Supreme Court like Hatch can...I think not. Senator
Hatch is almost like having a Democrat as senator. Besides, we know that
Liljenquist would have more energy and effort to make changes...and who would
what to change anything?
Seems like our best chance to get out of our federal debt crisis is to get the
people into the right positions. If we don't, we all are in for extreme
difficulties. Romney seems to be one of most successful
turnaround executives in the U.S. Hatch could be in the critical role to help
Romney with the financial turnaround.I don't see this a typical
election. I see this as the most important election to-date. We have no idea
how close we are to economic disaster. I'm hoping enough of us see the
situation as the same.
"80 year old teachers and an 80 year old Senator - what's the problem?
They both will have a lot of experience which I suspect is one of your
arguments in favor of Hatch. If its good for the Senate it should be just as
good for the classroom."line of the day. Love it! LOL
What great news!!! Orrin, it's time for you to go. I know one of your first
priorities when you're finished with "public service" will be to
write your memoirs. I have a working title for you: "Asleep on the
80 year old teachers and an 80 year old Senator - what's the problem? They
both will have a lot of experience which I suspect is one of your
arguments in favor of Hatch. If its good for the Senate it should be just as
good for the classroom.
Career Politicians Ye Be Warned...
Fantastic!I'll get to have my voice in the booth. With it
I'll shout with my tiny dot, or x or punch, "Thank you, Orrin, for 36
years, and godspeed, Dan!"
Bomar,You seem to have ignored the Sen. Crapo has strongly endorsed
Hatch and what Mike wants to do is Chair the Banking Committee. That is where
his real expertise is and he has targeted the Oxley-Sarbanes and the Barney
Franks legislation. Bob Corker (Tennessee) would get that instead of Crapo and
he is not a real conservative. But don't let the facts get in the way or
your emotion. By the way, Hill AFB is on the BRAC list again, just
as it was last time. It is not about bombing ranges but dollars and cents.
Too bad. Liljenquist destroyed many lives here in Utah with his work in the
legislature. He destroyed any decent retirement for police, fire and educators.
He played on the fears of a couple bad years of the economy to completely wipe
out the chance to ever get really qualified candidates for very important
jobs.Now we are going to have 80 year old teachers.Glad
to see him out of our state legislature at any rate!
I am writing a check to Dan Liljenquist first thing.
I will be coming to Utah to campaign for Dan Liljenquist. Orrin Hatch is
what's wrong with the Senate, arrogant, entitled and compromising with the
other side of the aisle. Getting the SLC news it is disappointing that his
campaign is, "what he is going to do", not what he has done in 36 years
in DC. Hill Field AFB is a straw man, it is not going to close if he is
defeated. I was told "if not for Sen Hatch, Hill Field would have closed
and operations moved to Georgia", sorry I don't buy that for a minute.
Georgia does not have any bombing ranges. In Idaho we have less seniority in
the Senate and Mountain Home AFB is still going strong and that is because of
the proximity to bombing ranges.Also if Dan Liljenquist wins and the
Republicans win the Senate the new Senate Finance Chair would be Sen Mike Crapo
from Idaho. Go Dan, Go.