All,I'm sorry but think about it. This IS News. A head football
coach is accused of having innapropriate contact - possibly/likely sexual - with
a student. Furthermore, he has been put on leave and a criminal investigation is
underway. Regardless of his innocence or guilt, this is news. Get over it. I
don't think he's guilty just because he was accused and has been put
on leave. They are not dragging his name in the mud buy having this article.
Have a little objectivity when reading the newspaper and come from
understanding. I think this is news and is important to know. Hopefully
it's not true and she made it up. But either way, It belongs in the paper
and will actually help to keep the facts straight. Much better than if it was
spread word of mouth, which would probably be much more inaccurate and assign
guilt to him than if people rely on what they read are the facts in the paper.
Full disclosure... I like Josh Lyman and went to school with his dad and uncle.
I hope to H and believe that he is innocent but if not he should be punished.
Someone above said he should go to prison. Really? What do you think he has done
to warrant that? Did I miss something that has been said? If he pays for what he
has done, how does she/her family reimburse him for what they have done to his
future. And don't tell me that he will be just fine. This will, no matter
what the outcome, cause permanent damage to a promising young mans career. Hope
her family is willing to pony up if she has fabricated a story. There are
guidelines if he is guilty, what would you want if someone lied about you this
What happens if this allegation turns out to be false? Is the young woman that
reported it going to pay all of the coaches legal bills? Is she going to go on
record in an attempt to restore his reputation? I am all for speaking up when a
wrong has occurred, but what is the proof here? He hasn't been charged- do
we just take the word of a girl who may or may not be telling the truth and
convict this teacher with no evidence? Did the district have evidence to put
him on leave or is it just going on a "she said" accusation? And by all
means, with no evidence, let's be sure and put his name and picture in all
the newspapers. Because in the end, people won't remember if he is found
innocent- they'll remember that he was accused and that his picture was in
the paper and even if he is acquitted, they will remember him as guilty.
To Uncle Ricco - this is devastating to this man and his family and if he is
found innocent of which I hope he is, it won't be forgotten by the public,
students, etc. I don't understand why the paper would have written anything
about this when guilt has not been stamped on this man. No life will never be
the same for this coach..I can't imagine the trauma that has been brought
into his life especially if he is found to be innocent. What a horrible thing to
be blamed for and not have it be true...that girl needs a good shaking and some
serious counseling if in fact he is innocent. His life and career has been
In our society we hear a lot of words about compassion for the plaintiff but
what about the defendant? If someone is falsely charged, and it happens today
and has happened throughout history. Think of the road that they have to
travel. They lose faith in society and people in general. Many close
themselves off from others in order to protect themselves. These people, many
times, have such a difficult road to travel to regain faith in others. The
damage is done and if the charges are false SHAME on those who brought such
charges. I think, at times, we give juveniles a little too much power (and the
benefit of the doubt) and if it continues what sort of society will we evolve
I'm all for exposing guys/women who do this to students. WHEN they have
been formally charged and arrested. Mere allegations until fully investigated,
are just he said, she said. I agree with posters who say that his career could
be ruined. He is in public education, now if he was in business or government,
well then, this would just get swept under the rug and no one would give a darn.
If I remember right it's supposed to be "innocent until proven
guilty" but lately and especially in the Utah media it's the other way
I hope the truth prevails for all parties concerned. I have been frustrated at
allegations that come out and bringing heartache to families, and it being
totally false. On the other hand, if it is a true statement, then it needs to
be tried in a court of law, not through the media. So sad what we do to each
other in the name of being only human. I would say that whatever the outcome of
these allegations, I hope that the truth and only the truth is the prevailing
outcome in this situation.
The police removed the coach based on information they had. If he is innocent,
his life is far from over. He will recover, and have a great life. This season
would have been interesting as coach would be with his own new staff and
players. I was excited to see what he could really do with the departure of
other coaches and the players they brought in. Good luck coach !!
If coach Lyman is guilty he should do prison time but what makes me nervous is
that girls and women have the power to accuse men or boys of things they did not
do and it ruins lives. Could it not possibly be a scenario of a young girl
wanting the attention of a great looking teacher but not getting it? Pay backs
by accusing him of something he didn't do? I don't know of course
but sometimes we are too quick to judge before having all the facts.
character assassination at its finest. These are allegations by a student.
Interesting that he gets his face and name plastered in the news while the
accused is kept anonymous. If it comes out that he is innocent, his name is
tarnished and his ability to seek new employment is jeopardized. This entire
matter should have been kept under wraps until the investigation was completed.
It saddens me to think that this man's life might be over as he knew it. I
can't imagine he would throw away his entire career over a 17 year old.
This label of sexual predator will hang over his head until the day he dies
because the press will make it so every time he will be in the news. How
unfortunate. I would be distraught as well.
Unless there is strong evidence that there was serious inappropriate actions on
the part of Coach Lyman, the Deseret News should never have reported this story.
At this point, an allegation is simply not enough to risk destroying this
man's reputation. If the girl has some emotional problem and he is
innocent, how will he ever live this down now that it is printed in a widely
read newspaper? If the girl has a legitimate complaint, the truth will come out
Guilty or no - Never ever talk to the police - particularly without a lawyer
Folks can't possibly want the dynamic where a mere allegation is blithely
accepted as a life-long stain. Doing so puts your teachers in a situation to be
The story said that SEVERAL students reported it. Does this mean there are
several witnesses or does that mean that the girl told several people who then
This is why I say that teaches should not care too much about their students and
have no social or private or personal interviews or crisis counseling. Students
minds are too immature and vulnerable. Then there is the parent factor and the
financial motive to sue schools and teachers in a quick arbitration system that
is an injustice to the truth. Maybe the education system should give
teachers some "authority figure" training and how not to get involved
with students lives. If a teacher can't maintain their authority status
then they do not belong in the schools.Teachers have become too over
active in stalking students in their private lives and home life without
parental consent or knowledge and this is why these accusations and situations
arise. I have read many articles in the DN tabloid about teachers being too
involved in the private lives of students.Beyond the class room,
teacher should not get an attachment or care about students. If students learn
or not is not their problem, they just present the material. Teachers texting
with students and sharing phone numbers is also wrong. Teachers are authority
figures, not friends or buddies with students.
Why is the Deseret News reporting this as though the teacher has already been
convicted? He hasn't even been arrested yet and already, the media has
already announced its verdict.I'm not taking sides in this
case, but I strongly believe the media has overstepped its bounds on this story.
Until an arrest, this matter should be handled internally. I wonder
what school teachers think when they read stories like this? Should they just
sit behind glass and never interact with students except to tell them their
grades? Is that where we're headed? @t702With all
due respect, were you there when this alleged incident occurred? Do you know all
the details of how this teacher interacted with female students? If
you don't, then I'd suggest you withhold your short-sighted
judgement.Don't forget about the witch hunt that occurred at
Alta High School last year. Ultimately, claims of racism were dismissed by the
Canyons School District, but not before some good people had their careers and
reputations ruined by some knee-jerk school officials, as well as the tabloid
thinking local media.
I personally believe Coach Lyman is 100% innocent and the young woman took a
compliment or a nice word too far. It is tragic that his life as he knew it is
gone forever. I certainly hope that time and maturity will help all concerned
to comprehend the explosiveness of gossip. My hat is off to Sierra West and
Jake Decker for their courage in standing up for Coach Lyman. The young woman
who claims inappropriate behavior also has my sympathies. She is facing a
difficult future as the years roll by--especially if she exaggerated or
fabricated at all. I pray that the truth will set the rightful person free.
There is no suffering greater than regret.
Too bad, he looked to be a rising coaching star but there is no way to shaking
off this type of thing. Whether or not the allegation is true is one thing, the
fact that he puts himself in a position to be accused show lack of judgement and
very immature ...this will haunt him the rest of his life.