I find this interesting. I AM JEWISH and moved to Saint George 3 years ago from
Maryland. I have found the LDS People very friendly and nice. Very family
oriented like the Jews and have been very kind to me. By the way I am a
Republican and very conservative. I feel very comfortable living here and like
the Mormons very much.
Okay, let's try this again. Last time I was somehow denied for name-calling
and racism. All I said was that I thought it was funny (comical) that it's
reported that Jewish-Americans are reported to like Mormons better than
Evangelicals, but with rating of only 47 out of 100, it doesn't seem like
they like Mormons much, does it? And the way it was stated in the article made
me laugh out loud.
I hold our Jewish brothers and sisters with great reverence and respect. These
are God's chosen people and I respect the struggles that they have gone
through. I live in the Bible belt and must drive 45 mintues to attend my branch
on Sunday and must be there even earlier to attend meetings beforehand. My
Stake center is 2 1/2 hours away. My Jewish friends must drive even farther to
attend services. I think that living in an area of religious intolerance makes
us appreciate the struggles of other religions. I work with a lady of Jewish
faith and make sure to honor her traditions as much as I honor the Christian
This article brought back memories of growing up in a small town in the Bible
Belt in the 1970s. Our elementary school had a Bible Trailer just off the
property, and the kids have one or two periods a week where they would attend
Bible Class in the trailer. Those that chose not to attend would go to the
library instead. When our class had our turn to attend bible class, I opted
out. The predominant christian church in our area was fairly antagonistic to
Mormons. As it ended up, two Jewish boys, Mark and Elon, joined me, a Mormon in
the library. The three of us became friends and enjoyed our time in the library
Re; Coach Biff, Never ceases to amaze me that those who are disaffected and at
odds with the church are some of the first to comment on all things LDS. I
wonder if they understand that they are the embodiment of the fulfillment of
prophecy? Brigham Young, Can you make a Christian of a Jew? I tell you
Nay, If a Jew comes into this church ,and the blood honestly professes to be a
Saint, a follower of Christ, and if the blood of Judah is in his veins, he will
apostatize.(JoD V. 2 p. 142)
@ A Scientist.You said, "Trying to show that
"cool" people are Mormons (or vice-versa) is not "preaching the
gospel". Trying to change the public's impressions of the Church is not
"preaching the gospel".If you are a scientist, surely you
should base your assumptions on research. (My son-in-law is a geneticist, and
he bases all of his findings in that manner.) Research shows that we Latter-day
Saints are being knocked by various groups, and this can provide a reticence in
some to listen to our message of the Church of Jesus Christ restored in
latter-days. If a scientist finds, say, a harmful substance that is causing
concern for a sick person, will he not try to find a cure? Our message is under
attack from outside sources, and impressions can prevent the true message going
forth. Whether you like it, or do not, research says that these programmes are
working, and bringing about a "cure." They allow the message to get
through, and as a result are very much "Preaching the Gospel."
How sad, how quickly you all go at each other. Why even comment in the poll?
It is what it is.I grew up Mormon in L.A. with mostly Jewish friends
and we loved to share Shabbat dinner with them. When I became an evangelical
our friendships never changed, nor did they care. Many factors were never
explored in this poll.(I have been treated far kinder by my Jewish
friends than by Mormon family and friends following my conversion. But none of
those factors changed my love for my LDS community.)
Non mormon Utahans definitely do NOT prefer mormons.
A Scientist,Your response to BH seems to indicate that you were not
asking your question in good faith, but rather were trying to bait someone into
a worthless argument. There is no answer to that question that
someone as biased as you would accept. Were Mormons not involved in trying to
gauge their relationships with other communities, we would be accused (as we
often are) of being insensitive and intolerant of other people's views.
Yet when we do studies to determine what other people think of us (as others
have mentioned, this article is NOT about such a study, which makes your comment
off-topic), you accuse us of being overly concerned with popularity and PR. Since the Church cannot do any good in your eyes, one can only surmise
that your numerous comments on stories related to the LDS Church are nothing
more than sour grapes.
Why do we care science boy? Cause a Mormon is our nomination. We would like to
understand his chances of getting the Jewish vote.
md,I am aware that "The study wasn't conducted by the
church." That makes no difference to my point.
Never ceases to amaze me that those who are disaffected and at odds with the
church are some of the first to comment on all things LDS. I wonder if they
understand that they are the embodiment of the fulfillment of prophecy?
@ A ScientistThe study wasn't conducted by the church. The
article simply contains information that members of the church might find
interesting. Your comment was on topic. It was, however, incorrect in
it's assumption that it meant Mormons are always so concerned about their
popularity.You must also have some curiosity about the church or you
wouldn't have bothered reading the article.
The Jewish people I have known have been very tolerant of others. They
don't hate people for good intentions (even if misdirected), and understand
that they can't believe everything said about a faith, especially when
it's negative and based in propaganda. For example, many Jews
were less hateful than evangelicals and liberals while Mormons tried to stop the
Baptism thing. Here is a quote from the Boston Globe:"Outraged by proxy baptisms? Count me out. As my stunted family tree
attests, the Jewish people have very real, very dangerous enemies. Mormons
undergoing peaceful rituals in their own temples aren’t on the
list."Some OTHERS, however, spend their days trying to promote
bigotry against religious minorities, even some scientists (not just those
working for Hitler), and it seems they are very disappointed when they fail to
get people to hate Mormons.... ; )
BH,I appreciate your attempt at an answer. Unlike another response
to my comment, at least yours was reasonable.The truth is, the LDS
IS very concerned with "popularity". That is why the Church commissions
its own research to determine whether other groups have a favorable or
unfavorable opinion of the Church and its people. The Church has a mature PR
Department, and employs social scientist researchers to discover public
impressions. Then the Church designs Public Relations campaigns targeted to
change the public perception of the Church.Hence, the "I'm
a Mormon" campaigns in a number of states.That concern is not
based on mutual affection among different religious groups. It is a marketing
concern. But it begs the question as to exactly how modern marketing strategies
can be justified as fulfilling Jesus' command to "preach the gospel to
every creature".Trying to show that "cool" people are
Mormons (or vice-versa) is not "preaching the gospel". Trying to change
the public's impressions of the Church is not "preaching the
gospel".Indeed, such a public relations/popularity mentality
could be seen as violating Jesus' command found in Matthew 6:1 (and
A voice of Reason wrote:"A Scientist,Why are you so
concerned with always trying to disprove the LDS Church?"Where
did you get the idea I am "always trying to disprove the LDS Church?"
And what does that have to do with this article?Worrying about
whether Jews have a generally favorable or unfavorable opinion of the LDS Church
is a concern with popularity. It is a valid question to wonder why the LDS
Church (or LDS people generally) are so concerned with their Church's
popularity.My comment was on topic. Yours was not.
What this study tells us is that the whole "proxy baptisms for Holocaust
victims" thing has been blown totally out of proportion. Apparently it
matters very little your average member of the Jewish faith. Shocking that the
media would make a mountain out of a molehill.
The problem is that there are only 37000 different christian churches out there;
what the world needs are a few more. Where are the Joseph Smiths of the world
when you need them.
Some evangelists are very intolerant of Jews and Mormons. Jews because they do
not believe in Jesus Christ and Mormons because we believe in a "different
Christ". That is ok with me because I do believe in a different Jesus Christ
than the one that doesn't expect anything out of anyone. I do not believe
in the once saved - always saved doctrine. The Jesus Christ that I believe in
lifts me out of the lowliness of human existence into a higher realm of being
(with His help) and he heals us of our trials (when we come unto him).I have known of instances when evangelists wouldn't have any association
with Jews or Mormons. I find it interesting when Christians behave
unchristian to prove that they are Christian.
While Mormons may baptise the occasional dead Jew, they can at least appreciate
the thought and concern.Evengelicals just tell the Jews, their
ansestors are going to hell.This is probably why Jews prefer
A scientist;As pointed out above, the survey was not taken by the
LDS faith, but an independent study group.but to answer your
question, most Mormons are not so concerned with popularity from others. If
that were the case, they would not adhere to being a Mormon. for if popularity
is the goal it would be much better to some other Christian faith. I would
suggest that Mormon's interest in such survey results, is a feeling of
satisfaction that their love and respect for their fellow man is recognized and
appreciated by another group of people. And in the case of the Jews, a people
that most Mormons feel a type of kinship to.While Jews don't
share with Mormons a belief in Jesus Christ as our Saviour and Redeemer, most
Mormons do recognize them as being a chosen people, as testified to in the Holy
Bible. And as others have mentioned, there may be other reasons of this feeling
of a kinship. But it is always nice to feel that one's love and respect
are reciprocated.Hope that answers your question.
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"
My LDS parents raised us with a deep respect for the Jewish culture. They had
Jewish friends and colleagues and there was mutual respect between them. My
grandfather sang with the Mormon Tabernacle choir AND was a volunteer cantor for
the Jewish synagogue. He gave his son the name of his Jewish friend who had been
killed in battle in WWII. As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints, I believe in the literal gathering of Israel and look upon
the Jews as a chosen people, regardless of whether or not they approve of my
To "A Scientist" the LDS church isn't concerned with their
popularity. The study was done by "The Public Religion Research
Institute". Maybe you should ask them why they are concered with LDS
A Scientist,Why are you so concerned with always trying to disprove
the LDS Church?
Most Jews I have known have expressed very deeply a desire for religious
tolerance, freedom of religion, and a great deal who want "a better
tomorrow"- or the attitude of improving on what we do good instead of the
destructive alternative. Jews have a history of 'doing things well',
good stewardship, and so on.While the LDS Church has its
differences, it has all those in common, which can easily translate to some
similarities in what kind of people we want to be.Furthermore, it
isn't a secret that the LDS Church has historically held great respect for
Jews. Some people cite certain LDS scripture as "anti-Semitic" but
always out of context. The Book of Mormon condemns and praises different people
at different times. Just as the Jews went from righteousness to wickedness when
Lehi left Jerusalem and when Christ lived- The Nephites went from a
righteousness to wickedness at different points, as did the Lamanites. But the
truth is that Nephi himself WAS a Jew.Jews that understand actual
LDS beliefs instead of false accusations- typically are very good friends of the
LDS Church. Peace requires looking for friendship in each other, not in hating
Yeah, right, now people will claim that Mitt will carry the Jewish vote.
Unfortunately they are mostly Democrat.
Why is the LDS Church so concerned with a popularity contest?
78 percent of them voted for Mr. Obama; the irony is many conservative
evangelicals condemn socialism and yet put Israel (which leans socialist) on a
I am a member of the LDS church and always have had particularly strong feelings
of love, brotherhood, respect, and admiration for those of the Jewish faith.
Perhaps I am not the only one and perhaps those feeling are, in some form,
While there was a definite difference in Jewish-Americans views towards
evangelicals and mormons, I'd hardly call a rating of 47 for mormons
"warmth". A 47 rating seems more likely to indicate a lukewarm or