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Mitt Romney's Mormonism not a problem for Catholics, Cardinal Timothy Dolan says

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  • Gemimi Bakersfield, CA
    April 10, 2012 8:31 p.m.

    @TAI- Rick Warren was accurately stating the major problem that non-LDS Christians have had with Mormonism since its inception. It did not restore anything that was ever practiced historically or documented. Even baptism for the dead was referred to by the Apostle Paul as "they" who practiced it, not "we".

    Warren was not debating the validity of the Trinity, but rather its historicity and catholic teaching. While Protestants and Catholics disagree on major points, the Triune nature of God is one doctrine of unity. Evangelicals admire and are in agreement with much of Mormonism. The unbiblical doctrines are where they part company with Catholics, Mormons, Moonies, JWs, Christian Scientists, United Pentecostals, and some Seventh Day teachings by Ellen G.White. It's simply an issue of Biblical supremacy, pure and simple.

    Religion aside, I am considering voting for Romney based on his positions and ethics. It would be a breath of fresh air for our country to have a gentleman, a statesman and an honest man as president, Triune God or not.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 10, 2012 6:44 p.m.

    @johnnylingo
    "We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may."

    That would be nice but Romney has already violated it by going after Obama saying he wants to create a national religion of secularism (which is translated in that sentence as atheism because he doesn't use the word secularism in the right context).

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    April 10, 2012 6:01 p.m.

    Just get religion out of it. Either that, or accept people can and will vote against a candidate based on religion.

  • roberto Moses Lake, WA
    April 10, 2012 5:50 p.m.

    @ I M LDS 2 How the heck do you figure? I'm totally lost on your comment. In 2008 Everyone and their dog and every religous bigot were using his religion(and yours) against him The only thing I remember him having to do is give a speach trying to reasure the voters that his religous leaders do not influence his politics.

  • Osgrath Provo, UT
    April 10, 2012 4:36 p.m.

    Heaven help Rick Warren if an atheist or Buddhist ever runs for president. I can accept Mormonism as a 4th Abrahamic Covenent as long as the radical right evangelical fringe doesn't treat them any worse than they do Jews or Muslims...oops - never mind.

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    April 10, 2012 4:32 p.m.

    I like Pastor Rick Warren a lot-----enjoyed very much his prayer at the President's inaugural in Jan. 2009. He rarely ever enters into divisive dialog; he is a great person and tries to never offend anyone. I hope he finds the Book of Mormon and reads where it says all through the book that Jesus is God and the Father and the Son; (all of us are spirit and body as well---we are duel beings all rolled into one person). The Lord can be both the Father and the Son and still have a separate Father to whom He prayed. The Bible can be the most confusing book to read; and should be more simple. Jesus had two parents. It is that simple.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    April 10, 2012 3:23 p.m.

    Rev. Warren refers to "historical" Christianity--not doctrinally correct Christinity or the Christianity of the New Testament. "Historical" Christianity was invented by the Council of Nicea in the third century. It has very little to do with the Christ of the New Testament. That's why the Gospel needed to be restored. Unfortunately, "historical" Christianity has wandered very far from the truth.

  • Mike in Cedar City Cedar City, Utah
    April 10, 2012 2:36 p.m.

    The Doctrine of the Trinity falls flat in the face of common sense. It's a doctrine that was not universally accepted by Christians and codified until nearly 400 years after the death and resurrection of Christ. A plain common sense reading of the New Testament makes it clear that the Godhead consists of distinct independent agents. Who was Jesus always praying to? Himself?. Yesterday I was watching a documentary on the ascent of Jesus, and a Catholic priest commented that Jesus was ascending to be with his Father. It would have been awkward if he had exclaimed that Jesus was ascending to be with himself. But that's what Trinitarianism requires.

  • johnnylingo62 Gray, TN
    April 10, 2012 1:27 p.m.

    It would be wonderful if everyone would align themselves with the following idea concerning religion:

    "We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may."

  • don17 Temecula, CA
    April 10, 2012 1:22 p.m.

    Mitt Romney's unfavorables will fall substancially now. When the polls are done Obama's comparison is against no competitor within the democrat party so he gets all the democrat vote. Romney has been up against all the democrats and those republicans supporting the other candidates. That will end now for the most part so from here on over the next few days the polling will soon become a one on one poll instead of two or 3 against one!

    Now the focus can be on a poor poor economy and drastic increases in food stamp need over the last three plus years! Up 45 percent! What a poor record to defend Mr. President! Kids are going hungry because of your policies! Men, especially minority men are going hungry and are out in the cold in record numbers! look at the salvation Army facility in Los Angeles! You will see Obama's failure Eye to Eye!

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    April 10, 2012 12:26 p.m.

    ute alumni

    Reconsider my screen name? Why? Are you not so subtly telling me I am not worthy to be LDS? Or are you implying I should leave the Church?

    I will be more gentle. I think it is time for you to reconsider your comment.

  • morpunkt Glendora, CA
    April 10, 2012 11:20 a.m.

    Maybe Rick Warren should consider converting to Catholicism, since the Catholics are the original authors of the Trinity, which he so vehemently defends.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    April 10, 2012 11:16 a.m.

    lds2:
    really? larry o'donnell isn't a bigot? just what is your enlightened definition of persecution and bigotry? you might want to reconsider you screen name.

  • Shimlau SAINT GEORGE, UT
    April 10, 2012 11:15 a.m.

    Irony guy, chrysler has been owned by diamler and now renault, so what about loyalty? (and I own 2 chrylsers) and the more foreign influence in their designs, the harder and more expensive they are to get fixed.

  • TA1 Alexandria, VA
    April 10, 2012 10:47 a.m.

    Rick Warren needs to seriously study and understand historical Christianity and the Doctrine of the Trinity. In fact there is much about historical Christianity that many would do well to study and see whether it fits what Jesus Christ said and taught.

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    April 10, 2012 10:26 a.m.

    "...and now one of the ways we can cooperate is to see that religious practice, religious bigotry doesn't enter the campaign,’ ” Dolan said.

    Too late. Romney made it the "elephant in the room" part of his campaign in 2008, and now, as with everything else, he and his faithful supporters are flip-flopping and trying to pretend people who mention Romney's religion are "bigots" in the 2012 campaign.

    It seems Mitt's strategy is to throw anything and everything against the campaign wall just to see what sticks. Religion didn't stick in 2008, so Mitty is playing the religious persecution card in 2012.

  • kiaoraguy Provo, UT
    April 10, 2012 9:37 a.m.

    @Irony Guy- Maybe the Romney family thinks the Caddy is more reliable and a better built car--or maybe he is trying to relate to all the welfare families that manage to drive Escalades- ever looked in the parking lot of the State Welfare office?

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    April 10, 2012 9:19 a.m.

    I'm very concerned about Romney's easy disloyalty . . . owning all those Cadillacs instead of Chryslers! After all, Chrysler bought AMC, his dad's big car company. Where's the loyalty?

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 10, 2012 9:06 a.m.

    @JWB
    Attacks on Catholics... a slight majority of Catholics support the birth control decision by the administration, similar to the slight majority of the Catholic vote Obama got.

  • skeptic Phoenix, AZ
    April 10, 2012 8:59 a.m.

    It is all about money, favor and power. God and religin is just a sub-title in the preface. The rally will be around the $$s.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    April 10, 2012 8:47 a.m.

    Tha attacks by the Obama administration on Catholics will keep on moving forward as people make a defense for liberty and agency in this election. Pastor/Reverend/Minister Wright has made an indelible mark on the President, whether sitting, standing or lying down. I believe most Americans will not take these types of attacks on religion, personal freedoms and the U.S. Constitution, lying down, no matter how the President and his campaign spin them.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    April 10, 2012 8:36 a.m.

    Cardinal Dolan is a bright articulate man. He is a lot of fun to watch interviewed. He would make a good running mate to Mitt and would bring out the Catholic vote. It is nice to see thoughtful people respond to the religious bigots that are on both the left and right.
    Go Mitt. Obama has to go back to community organizing.