@yankees27I don't disagree with your second comment (response
to me) except that it's not relative to what I said.I never
said there was evidence against Josh in regards to Susan's disappearance.
Nor did I comment on amounts of blood anywhere.Sure I think Josh
killed his wife. But what I think is not based on prosecution material. I said
nothing about police investigation either. What I said was was based on your
comment to the community about "why is it so hard to believe here" in
regards to Susan going to South America or some bizarre scenario.Where I think you are flawed is not your job and experience. It's your
inductive defense of an improbable but possible idea. South America? Really?
Could be, but it's more likely Josh killed his wife (blood or no blood).
Don't you think?
gdog3finally- No way, Josh took his kids to see Santa at the North Pole? There
is zero physical evidence that a murder took place. A wet spot on the floor or
sofa means nothing. The reason WVPD didn't charge is because they
couldn't. You can't invent reasons no matter how hard you want to. Ya,
I admit, Josh acted strangely about the whole deal, but there was/is no evidence
other than circumstantial to say that Susan Powell was killed. When it's
found, I'll gladly retract.I clean up crime scenes and trauma
scenes as part of my business. I've seen worse blood stains left by someone
who blew a vein in their foot, than what little stain was left at the Powell
home. A plate size blood stain could come from a bloody nose, trust me,
I've witnessed it.
@Yankees27"Why is it so hard to believe it could happen
here?" Uhh, maybe because Josh killed his kids, lied about his whereabouts
in regards to anything case related, never assisted police, and went camping
with his toddlers in the north pole.
There is no concrete evidence that Susan Powell is deceased. I personally
believe she is in South America with the other dude that went missing around the
same time she did. A little blood stain in a living room and some small wet spot
on the carpet or wherever aren't enough evidence to say that she is dead. I
know it's hard for most people to believe a mother could leave her children
behind, but let's remember there are stories every day in the news that
mothers harm or leave their children, why is it so hard to believe it could
This is news folks! That is what a newspaper does. I for one am glad to be kept
up on what is happening in this and any other case that is taking or has taken
place in Utah. The speculation is yours, not the news medias. Stop whining about
closure. Until Susan Powell's body is found her family is in limbo. To keep
this in the news may bring about a break in the case, otherwise it is forgotten
completely. I appreciate the coverage. Thank you Deseret News for reporting the
I really have a problem with this article. It really needs some visual aids.
I'm tempted to make three by five incident cards and pin them to my wall
with lines and arrows and 8X10 colored glossy photographs (thank you Arlo) in
order to do a proper criminal investigation. Did Josh Powell really need a
dominator to get him to kill his kids? Ipso facto.
@ I M LDS 2: Based on the evidence come to light, the Deseret News is doing a
much better job at "judiciously speculating to guide the investigation"
than the police. It is not unethical, but a basic tenant of journalism.
Especially as it becomes more and more apparent that the WVC police were
incompetent in the working of this case. @ My2Cents: " did the
WVC police have the wrong man to accuse and harass?" Have you not paid any
attention to the evidence released by the WVC police?? The evidence clearly
shows that Josh Powell was the the right man. They hardly harassed him. They
barely talked with him didn't come near him once he hired a lawyer. There
is enough evidence here that the DN hardly has to "create hate and lies and
misconceptions of the truth." They are only going where the evidence
suggests. It is hardly the actions of a "tabloid."
This is highly speculative and highly irresponsible. Yesterday this same lawyer
was saying that Steven Powell was in Utah on the day of the camping trip when
clearly he wasn't. After back-peddling we're now getting even more
speculation with no evidence. Nonetheless it all gets published. It sounds to
me like this lawyer is playing the media like a violin.
Some people watch way too much tv.
Why is this comming out noow? The dad is in jail now. Let it be.
Nobody is defending Josh or Steven Powell here, least of all me. You see? The
speculative, tabloid vigilante mentality starts to expand into false accusations
against anyone and everyone who has not already made up their minds about this
case. THAT is the kind of mentality that is dangerous, and is the enemy of
justice.And nobody is saying "leave law wnfoecement on their
own". The press IS a good mechanism for raising the public awareness of
criminal behavior with which the public can be of assistance.But
this article adds nothing in that regard. It is pure tabloid speculation and
sensationalism. It does nothing to empower the public with an ability to help in
this case.Responsible journalism, as distinguished from the tabloid
kind, does not publish empty, fluff speculation that does nothing but stir up
readers, capture attention, and fail to add any new facts or directions to the
case.This article adds nothing.
"Josh planned all kinds of stuff and researched lots of stuff, but he never
did anything. That was his problem."Uh, the last thing he ever
did in this life seemed to have been pretty well planned out and, unfortunately,
@ I M LDS 2 and othersIf we left the law enforcement people to do
their job, Elizabeth Smart would still be camping in S. Diego wearing a white
burka. If this happened to your family as it did to Susan Cox's, you SHOULD
(and would) be out there keeping the heat on law enforcement, questioning
everyone who knew people central to the case and keeping the story alive in the
press. This case is one of many for WVC police but it is the only one that
matters to the parents of Susan Powell. The ONLY way to solve a
missing persons case is to keep the story in the news because most of us (by
your own admission) would rather forget it.
For you Josh and Steven Powell apologists, it's a good thing the press
keeps this pressure on the law enforcement agencies of WVC (especially) and
Washington. They've had over 2 years to deal with the evidence and mostly
what we read about Josh is that they only got what was "voluntarily given
up" to the Police. The police didn't do their job. The fact that
Powell's co-workers are contacting lawyers now about something that police
took as a deposition but didn't follow up is troubling. We've seen
this pattern again and again with this case.I don't like to see
a trial in the media but why in the world wasn't there a real trial while
Josh was in Utah and Susan's sons still alive? Josh obstructed the
investigation from the beginning and the police treated him like he was
untouchable. There have been trials for murder where no body has been found and
if that is the only basis to run a trial, then there will be many more people
disappear whose case will be unsolved.
Enough is enough. The issue is dead, why is there so much tabloid speculations
and accusation being tossed around without cause? The tabloids are not the place
for law and order, its where they create hate and lies and misconceptions of the
truthThis has to make you wonder did the WVC police have the wrong
man to accuse and harass? Was their a conspiracy they just discovered after
being so narrow minded and narrowly focused that the truth eluded them? It's time for the Deseret News to put it to rest and stop its
persecution and implication of innocent people in crimes they are speculating
about. It's bad enough the police work that way, we don't need a
narrow minded and narrowly focused news media with a vindictive vengeance
motivating their lies.
Doesn't mean he didn't prepare a place for her and was involved in the
disposal after a time. Police would be focusing on Josh not him. Least not until
those images showed up on his computer. Josh used the boys as alibi, he used
work. Does anyone really think he could manage to harm his wife and be sole
caretaker to 2 small boys at the same time without help?
For a news agency such as this to engage in such speculation is unethical. Let
the lae enforcement agencies' investigation determine the facts and
judiciously speculate to guide the investigation, but for this news agency to
speculate like this is merely cheap tabloid sensationalism.
@Moderate, the fact that he was at work on Dec. 7, 2009 doesn't mean he
couldn't have had a hand in planning whatever happened to Susan.
Grasping at straws.Washington state Department of Corrections has
confirmed that Steve Powell was at work the morning of Dec. 7, 2009.