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Published: Thursday, April 5 2012 4:00 p.m. MDT

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I M LDS 2
Provo, UT

"103 of the 297 songs referenced sexual activity. Out of those, degrading references occurred 65 percent of the time"

So, that means only about one third (34.7%) of songs even mentioned sexual activity, and only about 2 in 10 songs had "degrading" sexual references.

That seems a lot better than when I was young.

Does "kissing" count as "sexual activity"?

I find it interesting that the youth who listen to these songs do not seem to analyze the lyrics (or even really listen to them) the way the adults do. I know the lyrics to popular songs better than my children do!

Supporting LDS Church
Salt Lake City, UT

Among my favorites and most frequent to listen to are Bach, Vivaldi, Holst, Vaughan Williams, and a few others most people today wouldn't know very much about. Mack Wilberg ranks pretty high up there too. People have sometimes taken my attitude to be somewhat self righteous, but the truth is that I just enjoy listening and always will. I never have to worry about the influence it has on my life. I just enjoy it and enjoy it some more. There is other appropriate music out there, for sure. There is even some of that super old music that I wouldn't call appropriate. But in my world its easy to know whats right and wrong and every day I can add only good to it. It's hard to say that of today's "artists" who don't really write their own music anyway (or even sing it themselves for that matter).

I may not have any other friends who listen to as much classical as I do, but at least I enjoy it and have a nearly endless supply of clean, emotionally impacting, and intellectually stimulating music.

Jeanie b.
Orem, UT

Before our kids became teenagers we introduced them to Christian Rock (KLOVE 107.5 and AIR1 89.7) - being LDS and Christian we wanted a better repertoire for our kids than just what was popularly offered.

Much of Christian Rock has the sound, beat and rap that teens like, but without the trashy messages. My 17 year old son is standing by me agreeing - (in fact he has just launched in to an impassioned speech about how pop culture music appeals to the lowest common denominator of humanity. He recommends the Christian Rock band "Red" for some great hard and soft rock.)

What we listen to really does make a difference in our behavior.

Kalindra
Salt Lake City, Utah

This complaint has been ongoing since the first time words were put to music.

There is nothing new in this story.

Howard Beal
Provo, UT

Makes Pink Floyd's lyrics look great! Welcome to...The Machine!

Blue Bolshevik
Salt Lake City, UT

Betcha Elvis sold more records that that choir.

LValfre
CHICAGO, IL

"in fact he has just launched in to an impassioned speech about how pop culture music appeals to the lowest common denominator of humanity"

And your proud of this? That's very condemning to call someone the lowest common denominator of humanity ... wow!

Pete1215
Lafayette, IN

People who want to call others judgemental cannot do so without making a judgement.

Jeanie b.
Orem, UT

LValfre - Judging is not all bad. We all judge things - to be what we like, to be good, what we don't like or to be bad.

However, having said that - I can see the wording choice was not the best because you could assume that "humanity" meant "specific people". He meant it in the sense of human nature (something that we should judge and do all the time), not specific people.

My son has many friends who like pop music. He does not judge them, he does judge the music (the kind referenced in this article). Much of pop music (the kind referenced in this article) appeals to the lowest common denominator of human impulses. Why would we want to thrust that influence on teens who do not have the maturity to manage their impulses like an adult (should)?

And, yes, I am very glad that my son gets that.

John Charity Spring
Back Home in Davis County, UT

This article is proof positive of just how far our society has degenerated in the past 50 years. Anyone who produces or purchases this so-called music should be condemned.

This music is absolute trash. It glorifies vulgarity, violence, and profanity. Worse yet, it portrays sex as a purely recreational activity with no consequences whatsoever.

These so-called artists themselves live their lives with all the morals of a pack of randy Russian princesses. They preach the doctrine that sex should occur with any person at anytime the urge hits.

Millions of impressionable youth are imitating what they see and hear. As a direct result, the rates of crime, substace abuse, and disease are skyrocketing. It is time to say enough is enough. If you care about America, you will boycott this music.

Florwood
American Fork, UT

So my parents were right back in the 60's when they complained about the trashy music kids were listening to?

This seems like a problem for each generation to discover anew.

And I'm curious, what is the definition of 'degrading' sexual content, versus non-degrading?

Red
Salt Lake City, UT

If you don't stand for Something then you are going to fall for anything! John Cougar

LValfre
CHICAGO, IL

This isn't new. Heck, Shakespeare had all sorts of vulgarity in some of his plays yet most 'refined' people so to speak consider his work to be art. Yet today's music, which expresses those same occasional vulgarities, is to be condemned. It's all the same ... art and written words.

You guys act like casual sex just started happening in the last 50 years and it's ruining society. It's been happening forever! Do you think the first humans waited till marriage to procreate? They probably never even heard of it.

Get off the high horse.

Puddles
Grand Forks, ND

In todays world as long as the song has a good beat, thats all the matters. Who cares about the content.

xscribe
Colorado Springs, CO

Let's break down Spring's post:
"This article is proof positive of just how far our society has degenerated in the past 50 years. Anyone who produces or purchases this so-called music should be condemned."

Communism?

"This music is absolute trash. It glorifies vulgarity, violence, and profanity. Worse yet, it portrays sex as a purely recreational activity with no consequences whatsoever."

Just how much do you listen to "this music"? And I thought parents were supposed to be teaching their kids sex education.

"These so-called artists themselves live their lives with all the morals of a pack of randy Russian princesses. They preach the doctrine that sex should occur with any person at anytime the urge hits."

Not sure what a randy Russian princess is, so I'll leave that one alone.

"Millions of impressionable youth are imitating what they see and hear. As a direct result, the rates of crime, substace abuse, and disease are skyrocketing. It is time to say enough is enough. If you care about America, you will boycott this music."

Is there a direct result? And good idea: Boycotting is better than condeming. However, again, parents should be teaching their kids, right?

Jeanie b.
Orem, UT

I don't think Shakespeare's vulgarity is the "work of art" part.

Yup, casual sex has happened ever since recorded history. In an enlightened society you would think that we would recognise the fall-out and change our behavior......... unlike the poor cavemen who dragged women around by the hair......

Apparently we humans learn very slowly.

....kinda comfortable on my horse.

LValfre
CHICAGO, IL

@Jeanie B,

"....kinda comfortable on my horse."

Ignorance is bliss. Just be happy that's all that matters.

Mukkake
Salt Lake City, UT

Jeanie B:
[I don't think Shakespeare's vulgarity is the "work of art" part.]

Well, it is. Shakespeare wrote comedies and dramas. Shakespeare's comedies have dirty jokes. Shakespeare's dramas have obscene language. Hamlet spends the whole play calling his mother and uncle any number of foul names. Insults are an integral part of any of Shakespeare's plays.

You can't just dissect an artist's work and choose which parts are "art" and which parts aren't because you find them vulgar.

[Yup, casual sex has happened ever since recorded history. In an enlightened society you would think that we would recognise the fall-out and change our behavior......... unlike the poor cavemen who dragged women around by the hair......]

Casual sex has happened since sex developed. Animals only engage in casual sex. In an enlightened society we've developed contraception. And your description of "caveman" behavior is juvenile.

[....kinda comfortable on my horse]
Maybe one day you'll grow up and join modern society.

U Student Y Fan
Woods Cross, UT

@Johnny Charity Spring

Your assertion that crime rates and substance abuse are up is not backed by fact (in reality, crime rates are down). More importantly, how can you claim that either of these is a "direct" result of the music one chooses to listen to?

Jeanie b.
Orem, UT

It is interesting to me how I can be ignorant when I see the effects of "casual sex" in the lives of kids I teach. "Responsible" casual sex (using contraception) does not erase some of the painful consequences.

My comment about cavemen was sarcastic. I guess you missed that.

"Shakespeare had all sorts of vulgarity" - another poster's choice of words. And yes, I can decide what parts of things I find vulgar and what parts I don't, just like you are free to love the whole piece of art or the whole play.

We all ride horses we're comfortable with - even those who live in modern society.

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