Dennis, I'm sure you speak for your odds.
As long as you realize that the lottery ticket you purchase is entertainment,
not an investment, heck, have your fun! It's the unfortunate fellow who
gets laid off from his job and takes his last paycheck and buys lottery tickets
with *all* of it, who is a sad case. With that many tickets, he's *got* to
Those against it and making such snide remarks most likely cannot get a ticket
and are jealous of those that do. I see people "throwing" their money
away on Coke and soda every day. And I thought it was actually the right who
had the "power to the people" mantra. Seems this is a perfect case of
the people having the power to either buy a ticket, or not!
@ Bob A. Bohey: You state, "Every dollar spent on a lottery ticket is a
dollar that won't be tithed."I am not sure I understand
what you mean by that.Supposedly tithing is supposed to be paid on
your increase - not on what is left after you spend money. So if someone is
paying tithing like they are supposed to, buying a lottery ticket should not
affect the amount of tithing paid.If, on the other hand, you mean to
imply that people who play the lottery don't pay tithing, then playing the
lottery won't affect the amount paid in tithing because they are not paying
There are those of you that think the lottery is harmless fun, but I'm
guessing you don't know anyone who is so addicted to gambling that they
neglect paying their bills and taking care of their children. These poor folks
are much more common than lottery winners.I know people in Malad who
can't trust their family members with money because it will end up going to
the lottery. So remember when you see the winner on TV and you see how happy
they are, there are other consequences to the lottery!How do you
have gas money to drive to Malad to buy lottery tickets anyway? What a waste of
time and money! Go do something nice for your neighbor and you feel great
without wasting your money!
Every dollar spent on a lottery ticket is a dollar that won't be tithed.
@CHS 85Nobody's saying that you personally are doing yourself
harm...if that's how you want to waste - err, spend - your entertainment
dollars, go for it. The problem I have is that so many of these lottery players
are the same ones who whine about not having any money to pay the bills, in
massive debt, clamoring for the government to give them a bailout. Or even
worse, they are buying lottery tickets while receiving government assistance.If you have disposable income and you want to buy lottery tickets,
that's your business. But if you are putting lottery tickets in front of
basic necessities like food, clothing, and shelter, then I have a problem with
it because eventually I'll end up paying for your necessities while you buy
A tax on the poor? Really? Drive to Malad and see what cars are in the parking
lot. They are not old beaters. I buy lottery tickets because it is
I am neither poor nor uneducated, but I put $10 in the office pool, as did 30 of
my highly educated and fairly wealthy co-workers. Some of you take life so
seriously! What's the harm in spending a buck or two to dream? Relax a
Supposedly the more that play, the less tax I pay. So play on!
Mukkake,If you are so worried about the schools, take what you think you
would spend each year on lottery tickets and give to your local school district.
There would be no lottery overhead or winner’s expenses associated with
your contribution, so the schools would benefit more, and you could get a tax
deduction. It’s a win-win.
@ AZRods: Please re-read my comment. I do not claim that people who receive
housing or food assistance do not make the same mistakes many others make and
spend their money on things that are "wasteful."Mountanman
stated that he thought it would be interesting to see how many people are on
food stamps and housing BECAUSE they spend their money on lottery tickets.My answer is that no one qualifies for food or housing assistance
because of HOW they spend their money - they qualify because of how much money
they make. They may make poor decisions with the money they make - but that
does not make them more eligible for assistance. If you are a 4 person
household making $12,000/year, you are (probably) going to qualify for
assistance - regardless of whether or not you buy lottery tickets. If you are a
4 person household making $100,000/year, you are (probably) not going to qualify
for assistance even if you spend $90,000 of that buying lottery tickets.(I say "probably" because there may be extenuating circumstances
that affect the outcome - but buying lottery tickets does not count as
I'm sure you non-lottery players feel so smug and pleased with yourself,
but I'm sure there is plenty of stuff you throw you cash away on. I
don't waste money on sporting events that I can watch for free at home, but
I don't begrudge those that do. I don't give money away to any
ecclesiastical organization, but I don't begrudge those that do.The lottery is an activity. Its only fun if you have some involvement. Tickets
are cheap. The odds are what makes it fun. But you can continue to spout your
mantras and cliches, I'm sure thats fun for you and it doesn't cost a
thing.But there are plenty of us who know the odds (they are stated
clearly on the lottery website) and are good enough at math to understand them,
but still want to have our fun. Freedom and Free Market values certainly are
I live in Texas where the lottery is legal. Everytime I see somebody plunk down
money for the chance to win this lottery, I'm reminded of the movie
"Dumb and Dumber" when Jim Carrey asks the lady what the chances are
that they could end up getting together. After she says it's 1 in
1,000,000, he responds by saying, "So you're telling me there's a
chance." That pretty much sums up the mentality of lottery players.
It's almost laughable to think that people think they have a legitimate
chance at winning it. Of course somebody, somewhere is GOING to win it, but
essentially at the expense of everyone else. I'd get involved with MLM
schemes before I ever did the lottery simply because the odds that I'd
profit from it are far greater than the lottery. I've never heard the term
"tax on the poor", however, I'll be the first to admit that I
haven't seen even one individual drive up in a Lamborghini or Ferrari to
purchase lottery tickets. No. It's generally the poorer folks that get
suckered into this type of spending. Sad.
The mind set of a lottery player baffles me, the odds of winning a jackpot of a
lower stakes drawing, say for 1 million are much better that that of this 1/2
billion prize. Yet like lemming to the ocean, the minions line up out the door
to toss their hard earned $$ with little chance of success.
The odds seem to just the same as actually getting to the afterlife. Or better.
Kalindra says "No one qualifies for food stamps or housing because they make
poor choices about how to spend their money." You clearly haven't
spent much time working with people in these situations. Booze, smoking and
lotto are the most common wastes of money by many, though of course not all, who
are on food stamps and other government housing.It is like any other type
of gambling. Some people just don't know when to stop, so house payments,
food money etc are lost in the hope of winning. And they justify it's
benefits by saying that it helps in other areas of the state.Unfortunately, it is being paid by those who can least afford to spend money.
Just ask yourself, do you know anyone, or anyone who knows anyone who has
won the lotto?
@Mukkake"This "tax on the poor" stuff is tired, old, and
simply not true."I agree with you - lottery is not a tax on the
poor. It's a tax on the unintelligent, which can be found at any income
@ Voice of Reason: Your first paragraph was so good and then you had to blow it
by bringing in unsubstantiated attacks on liberals... Many liberals oppose
lotteries for exactly the reasons you mention in your first paragraph - the
problem is that so many people (liberals and conservatives) see lotteries as a
way to benefit schools as a choice option instead of a mandatory tax increase
that, even though this premise has been proven false time after time, it is
impossible to get a lottery stopped once it starts.(And FYI:
"power to the people" includes the right of people to make their own
decisions and live with their own consequences even when we disagree with the
choice and know it is going to lead to a bad consequence. The opposite of this
would be a nanny state where the state makes the decisions for you - such as a
90 day wait to get divorced.)@ Mountanman: Eligibility for social
safety net programs such as food stamps is based on how much you make - not
where you spend it. No one qualifies for food stamps or housing because they
make poor choices about how to spend their money.
Wouldn’t it be interesting to see a legitimate study about how much
grocery and rent money gets squandered buying lottery tickets? How about how
many more people are on food stamps and housing subsidies because they buy
lottery tickets! It would be interesting, wouldn’t it? Ahh those
unintended consequences of something for nothing mentality!
This "tax on the poor" stuff is tired, old, and simply not true. No one
is required to play the lottery. Some people spend their extra cash on tithing
and some of us buy a few lottery tickets. It's fun. People can abuse
anything. Maybe if Utah had a lottery our school system and roads wouldn't
be such garbage.
Lets see; 1 to 176,000,000 Where do I sign up?! And to mssr, I hear that New
Jersey will let you buy on the internet, so, go for it!
The greatest improvement in your odds of winning is that single first ticket.
Every ticket after that is a waste of money.
Tax on the poor.
Quite simply, lotteries are a tax on people who are bad at math. It's also
the most regressive tax in our nation, since overwhelmingly it's the poor
and uneducated who are using the grocery budget to buy lottery tickets trying to
win a jackpot that's about 270 times harder to win than to being struck by
lightning in a year. And even for that one "lucky" winner,
it almost always turns into a living nightmare that leaves them just as poor in
a few years' time. Lotteries are a cancer on society, and frankly I'm
always surprised by the lack of liberal outrage at a tax that hits the poor in
society far more than the middle or upper classes. And I thought the left was
all about "power to the people", etc. Just goes to prove the left only
wants the poor to be dependent on them for handouts to live; they have no
interest in actually lifting the poor out of poverty. Because then,
statistically, the poor tend to become Republicans, and wwe can't have
For all of you dreaming at a chance at those easy millions, remember this:
Lotteries are nothing more than a tax on the matematically challenged.And your odds of winning aren't any better just because the pot is
Even is the odds are small, I'd at least like the chance to be able to play
and perhaps daydream a bit of what it would be like winning. But not here in
Utah, because some grumpy old fogies on the hill think they know what's
best for me. Ah, living in Utah....
"You can't lose if you don't play".That's the theme
for organized religion not the lottery.