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Police shooting at McDonald's not legally justified, DA says

West Valley officers cleared in separate shooting

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  • Lyle Springville, UT
    March 30, 2012 7:10 p.m.

    I think it is interesting that a shot fired to break a window was considered to be unjustified. The passenger seat was probably not killed, right? Whether something is deadly ought to depend on how it is used. I have a flashlight that would have smashed the window easily, but could also have been used to kill the driver very efficiently. Would smashing the window with the flashlight therefore have been unjustified? I have used firearms to do all sorts of non-deadly tasks (installing phone lines comes to mind). Obviously, police officers work under tighter constraints.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 30, 2012 2:26 p.m.

    Re: Truthseeker
    "So, the police can't even get it right and we want citizens to be armed?"

    No, we don't expect our citizens to perform law enforcement duties. In Utah we want our citizens to be armed because we understand the concept of "Response Time". Typically that is the time between when a frantic home owner finally makes contact with a 911 operator and the time the police arrive to put up the crime scene tape and take photos of the victim's body.

    I can't speak for California but here in Utah we have more confidence in the judgement of our armed citizens.

  • Mike IsBell Ogden, UT
    March 30, 2012 12:39 p.m.

    The DA has it wrong in classifying the 1st shot as using "deadly force". From the news report, no one was in danger from it.

  • rogerdpack2 Orem, UT
    March 30, 2012 10:31 a.m.

    Not justified for stopping some guy from rampaging through a parking lot?

  • Geek Man ,
    March 30, 2012 9:11 a.m.

    I think it's great that DA Gill is holding police accountable. It's really important. But, it doesn't seem totally unreasonable for the officer to gain entry to the car by shooting through the window IF THE CAR COULD HAVE HURT PEOPLE. According to the officers words he was trying to protect himself and others from a possible out of control car.
    Having said that it seems to me police are a bit trigger happy sometimes. It can't be easy being a cop.

    One comment off point- I have several friends who are prosecutors. They have freely admitted to me that in their job the most important thing is to have a great win record and to never put there neck on the line in a case if it could hurt their future political or career goals. They said it was embarrassing to say but, justice ranked far down the list.

    I remember thinking- I sure hope judges have a higher standard.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    March 30, 2012 7:24 a.m.

    why would anyone want to be a cop

  • milhouse Atlanta, GA
    March 30, 2012 6:52 a.m.

    @Noodlkaboodle, you do know the article stretches across three pages, right?

  • Noodlekaboodle Salt Lake City, UT
    March 29, 2012 6:22 p.m.

    Nevermind. The trib actually has information on their site....

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    March 29, 2012 5:31 p.m.

    So, the police can't even get it right and we want citizens to be armed?

  • Noodlekaboodle Salt Lake City, UT
    March 29, 2012 3:52 p.m.

    @Pat Reavy
    Could you please explain WHY this shooting wasn't justified, or explain what actually happened. The headline of this article makes it sound like we might actually get some info about the case.