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Nearly identical bill by same lawmaker was vetoed in 2000

Published: Friday, March 9 2012 4:47 p.m. MST

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spring street
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Herbert has said that he will not be swayed by mass email campaigns and would make a decision based on what is the best policy for the state of Utah. Yes by all means ignore your constituents because clearly you now what we peasants need.

MyChildrensKeeper
Taylorsville, UT

And there are 2,500,000 silent majority saying not to veto the bill. Put an end to radical activist from setting up camp in our eduction and school system. We 2.5 million are demanding this law to be incorporated and passed to protect our children from all the radicals intervening in parental and religious rights.

Ralph West Jordan
Taylorsville, UT

Re: My Childrens Keeper

Thank you for your Post! I now understand the term "RaDICAL".

Rune
Utah, UT

Leaving kids ignorant about the more detailed matters of sex ed makes them vulnerable, not only to making mistakes with each other, but to manipulation and abuse from those who most certainly do know better. How many young girls get manipulated into bad situations by older youth and men who convince them, "this isn't really sex," or, "you can't get pregnant if we do this."

Comprehensive sex ed in no way infringes on a parent's right to teach sexual morality in the home. The information itself is factual, not immoral. The kids already have the bodies and the sexual organs, don't keep them ignorant of their nature and how to take care of them. Teach the biology, the consequences, the health concerns and how to mitigate them, teach that healthy sex is part of a relationship rather than an act of using another person, teach the nature of consent and abuse. Please.

It's been demonstrated all over the country that areas with strong sex-ed programs have not only a reduced rate of teen pregnancies, but an overall higher age of first sexual encounter, meaning that sex-ed helps MORE teens make the good decision to wait.

Independent Thinker
West Jordan, UT

Re: MyChildrensKeeper - Please provide verification that 2.5 million Utahns are a "silent majority saying not to veto the bill". That is obviously your strong opinion, however, I feel equally as certain that that is not the case.

I am hopeful the Governor will veto this bill primarily based upon reality-based health concerns and often-neglectededucation for young people.

If there are aspects of any instruction that are objectionable to the public at large, those issues should be addressed on the local level with the school Board.

Under the existing law, the only way students can receive this instruction is for their parents to opt-in to the program. Otherwise, they will not be permitted to participate. What HB363 does is to take that option away from parents.

Choosing what instruction for your own children is great. Making those decisions for other parents' children is entirely inappropriate, and that is precisely why the Governor should veto this bill.

owlmaster2
Kaysville, UT

I would like all supporters of this bill/new law to sign a commitment pledging to vote for an increase in their taxes to pay for the additional children born to unwed mothers and for the increase in sexually transmitted diseases.
I would bet $10,000 that the very people that support this are the parents that don't teach their own children about safe sex or for that matter how bees pollinate the flower.
The back seat of a car after prom isn't where a child should learn about sex.

My2Cents
Taylorsville, UT

It's truly amazing how many people are ignorant of the education system in Utah and all the radicals running the schools turning our children into good little socialist and believing their rights and parents are not good for their country. They are brainwashed that crime and law and order are at the discretion of the government and the constitution and individual rights are bad for the good of all people.

I am not for the education system to have any moral or medical or religious beliefs be imposed on such vulnerable minds. This law gives the government and schools the power to convert innocent home environments into child molesting communes by bending a childs understanding of parental care in to parental abuse. This is what sex education means to our schools and the legal system, make everyone a suspect and subject to incarceration by their interpretation of parental care giving.

The education system does not limit its classes to education, it also stretches it powers to law enforcement and the legal system by constant quizzing and questions of children. And that is their goal, seek out child abuse in the homes and make children afraid of their families.

Steven S Jarvis
Orem, UT

The real irony in all this is just how little this law changes current law. Those arguing for maintaining 'comprehensive sex ed' may have missed that the current law restricted that long ago by choosing the available curriculum and excluding all others.

This law does allow schools now to opt out of the irresponsible sex ed reforms of the past.

Murray Dad
Murray, UT

re: My2cents
"I am not for the education system to have any moral or medical or religious beliefs be imposed on such vulnerable minds. This law gives the government and schools the power to convert innocent home environments into child molesting communes by bending a childs understanding of parental care in to parental abuse."
Don't confuse your perception of medical fact with above. I seriously doubt you have the background or current information on STD's needed convey to adolescents factual based instruction on Human Sexuality and reproduction.
Why would this instruction be trusted to anyone less than a professional? Would you practice home appendectomies? Endodontics? Parental talks place factual information in context; and from the legislatures apparent move, this is not enough.Who wants to brainwash here?

awsomeron
Waianae, HI

What do you think of a kid going to School and the Health Teacher teaching Sex Ed, and during the course of that education, the Child becomes aware that they or a close relative or friend are being Sexually Abused. "he leaves me alone but he goes in my sisters room late at night when moms working" "my sister sometimes cry's after he leaves but won't tell me why".

Lack of knowledge is sometimes used as a cover for abuse.

So that is what information is about to inform and enlighten. Not only to teach people how to have Sex (which nature usually takes care of). Sex Ed teaches kids how to protect themselves and to deal with those people who would hurt them.

Have you ever been told to either do or not do something with out being given the reason Why! you should do or not do it. Nothing made me more mad then being told because or your to young to know.

Silent People are silent because they are scared to speak out and any emotion, action or reaction through fear Religious or other wise does not count and has nothing coming.

awsomeron
Waianae, HI

If you want to ban or restrict Sex Ed. Can I the same restrictions on State Studies and Algebra, and for that matter any other course that might bore me to death or I might fail.

From what I read you already have a Tough Law. I am not sure what you are going to accomplish by forcing one way or no way down people.

I know that if I knew then what I know now, and if she knew then what she should have known. My 1st Marriage might not have failed, mostly because it would never have happened, in the 1st place. Vortex being what it is.

DeltaFoxtrot
West Valley, UT

Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% mortality rate. Better watch out kids!

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