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Published: Friday, March 9 2012 4:09 p.m. MST

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A voice of Reason
Salt Lake City, UT

My only hope with this is that it is not used to suggest to others "we are better than you, we attend more, we have better families, etc." but rather to suggest "despite what others tell about you, here's who we really are, what we really believe, etc."

I read everything in here with a positive light. It's up to everyone else to make that same choice. We also choose how we share it. Comparing 'our percentage' to 'the rest of America' might seem a bit forthcoming, but in actuality it can indeed serve the purpose of saying- "The rest of the politically charged media, hateful groups, critics, etc. are telling you that we are 'less Christian' or 'not' or less religious or less anything- but the truth is that we are far more than what they have represented us to be." -again, the use of the data this way is a far more tactful approach from those sharing it and a more open-minded approach from those receiving it. We all know what kind of comments we'll see on here anyway, but I've approached this data fairly. It's not unreasonable for me to expect similar high standards from others.

Full-on double rainbow
Bluffdale, UT

@ A voice of reason

I don't agree with your self-glossed screen name.

Northern Lights
Louisville, KY

Rainbow,

I thought the comment by A voice of Reason was articulate and well thought out. If more who commented took things in a positive light, the discussions on these message boards would be an enjoyable experience. Criticizing a perosn based solely on their screen name doesn't lend anything towards your credibility as a critic.

I believe the Church is simply trying to present the beliefs of the LDS Church in a manner that is not judgemental, but instead highlights something unique offered to all mankind.

A voice of Reason
Salt Lake City, UT

Full-on double rainbow,

If you read the definition of the word "reason", or according to common practice in the entire debate/philosophy world- you'll find that it primarily is used to state "explainable through reason", not to state "I am right". I state my beliefs and support them through reason. I am not always right and like everyone else I make mistakes. But I have beliefs and real experiences and I can rationally explain them. You can disagree with those beliefs according to your desire to- but disagreeing with an attitude you inferred in my screen-name logically equates to "disagreeing with yourself". At best, you disagree with something that "isn't there" and then there is no disagreement at all.

Either way, I have proven that my screen-name didn't mean what you inferred it to mean. There is only so much you can accomplish when each comment someone makes is fighting anything and everything LDS. Rather than always try to find something wrong- one has just as much of a choice presented them to look at the positive, look for good in others, and so on. We can't be justified until we make that our intent.

The Deuce
Livermore, CA

As a non-member of the LDS faith, I took the opportunity to read through hte article and learned quite a bit about the religion. If more people took a few minutes to read this, there would be less confusion about who Mormon's are.

awsomeron
Waianae, HI

I think that this is a very good idea.

Now if we can just get Mormons to read it.

mark
Salt Lake City, UT

The Deuce, sorry to tell you, but if you only read through the Mormonism 101: FAQ you have learned very little from that source that's accurate about the LDS Church. I have never read as blatant a whitewash from any large organization as this.

Europe
Topeno, Finland

Great article and great info...
I especially like CHRIST CENTERED.

t702
Las Vegas, NV

Mormonism 101 is awesome! awesome! awesome! To those that help with that effort, THANK YOU!

Moontan
Roanoke, VA

This is a great site. Very informative.

Reason ... I enjoy your thoughtful posts.

Mayfair
City, Ut

Mr Walker-I challenge your choice of words: "with a healthy dose of Broadway glitz".

It was hardly healthy.
It was offensive to both Mormons--and Ugandans.
While it WAS disguised as glitz, it was nothing more than mocking and insulting.

sharrona
layton, UT

RE: Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world and the[literal] Son of our loving Heavenly Father.
The Deuce, As a non-member of the LDS faith,If more people took a few minutes to read this, there would be less confusion about who Mormon's are. OK,
The Âpale of Christianity believes the birth of Jesus was a unique miracle by the Holy Spirit/Ghost, same Greek word(Pneuma).
Joseph Fielding Smith, ÂThey tell us that the BoM states that Jesus was begotten of the Holy Ghost. I challenge that statement. The BoM teaches No Such Thing! Neither does the Bible!Â(Doctrines of Salvation
A precious and chosen vessel, who shall be overshadowed and conceive by the power of the Holy Ghost and bring forth a son yea, even the Son of God. ( Alma 7:10) .
The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.(Luke 1:35 KJV) .

A voice of Reason
Salt Lake City, UT

Northern Lights & Moontan,

I appreciate the friendly words. I need to make more of an effort to state what I find good in other people's posts.

Mark,

You're absolutely right. This isn't the best way or source to read to learn about this church. If you really want to learn what we believe, the Book of Mormon is a better and the most accurate source. If you want to know how we act on those beliefs, then (with taking into account our being imperfect, of course... as we all are) then going to an LDS church on Sunday for the full Sunday block, attending a general conference, and meeting several members from several different backgrounds, from several parts of the world- this would be an adequate way to learn about the church.

I have spent my far from perfect life learning about good principles. I haven't done nearly as much good as I could have- but in every step I take to learn from the church, I've only found the most wonderful doctrines which preach forgiveness, repentance, and ultimately a plan of happiness.

Not everyone will learn about the church this way, but it is the best way to know.

awsomeron
Waianae, HI

Basic Religion is very simple. Basic Mormonism is No different.

The problem is getting the Members or Masses to understand the Basics.

Members and Non Members will Debate 101. Debate is good as long as that in the end it does not change the Basic.

Some people like to keep things in the dark the main reasons being.

They have not read and do not know themselves.

They are a fried that if investigators learn to much they will find something they do not like and leave.

Open Conflict with a Value as stated by the Church.

Lack of knowledge leads to Urban and Rural Myth which I separate because they are sometimes different.

Example: Some things are considered to be not Moral, however the Church has No Stand On them (mostly because the leaders can't wrap their mind around the concept or it has just never come up). However there is No Scripture to back things up either way and it is left up to the individuals involved. A Sort of Free Agency.

101 is fine but some people will need 095 first.

Part of me thinks that the Articles Of Faith are and where enough.

Bill in Nebraska
Maryville, MO

All one really needs to do is to take and study the Gospel Principles as outlined in that book/study guide. That really spells out the basic truths of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Sure there are some skeletons that many members don't understand and don't want to understand. However, the information put forth by many critics of the Church of Jesus Chrsit of Latter-Day Saints are either half truths or out right lies tied to some truth. This perpetuates the lies and thus some say well it is whitewashed.

As voice of reason states,come and see for yourself and see the truth. Bring the truth you have and we will add to that truth in a way that will bring greater happiness to you and to your family. Those who argue and critize do so either with an axe to grind or because they have lost the will to decipher the absolute truth.

TheProudDuck
Newport Beach, CA

With all the confusion among non-Mormon Christians, who mistakenly think Mormons do not believe Christ is God, and in light of all the latter-day scriptures (and hymns) that do affirm the divinity of Christ, why does this "Christ-centered" news release fail to go the last step and acknowledge that Mormons do, in fact, affirm Christ's Godhood?

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

I don't agree with the graph saying "100% of sacramental worship services that focus on Jesus Christ."

What was their measuring stick?

First off, unless they've been to every meeting, every congregation the claim is unrealistic.
Secondly, I can think of many sacrament meetings where the only mention of Jesus was in the prayers.
My least favorite meetings are the "sales" meetings instructing members about the mechanics of doing missionary work. I can think of many other examples, but won't enumerate further.

My hope is they will revise that ridiculous statement and that congregations will focus more on the life and teachings of Jesus.

Capella
Bakersfield, CA

Mark, you are right on re: the whitewash. I don't understand why the SLC leaders are reticent about sharing unvarnished Mormonism 101. Do they consider it embarrassing, unbiblical, skeptical, unhistorical? I don't get it, because it is very easy to define and easy to see where it differs from Biblical doctrines.

My Mormon grandparents would be horrified at the lack of clarity and ownership on the doctrines. I have been speaking at churches and teaching on the differences between Mormonism and textual, Biblical Christianity for 26 years and it never gets difficult to agree on the distinctions. We don't agree on validity, but we do agree that there's little parity.

LVIS
Salt Lake City, UT

Truthseeker
SLO, CA
I don't agree with the graph saying "100% of sacramental worship services that focus on Jesus Christ."

If they had said "100% of sacrament meeting", I would agree with you. However, I believe they are referring to the actual sacramental ordinance (or worship service). The administration and partaking of the sacrament is Christ-centered. The rest of the meeting is adjunct to the actual sacrament service, and no one believes that the entire meeting is focused on Jesus Christ. It should be, but unfortunately isn't.

Still, you bring up a good point. Perhaps this could have been articulated a bit better.

mightymite
DRAPER, UT

Hugh< if you have to keep explaining something, you certainly don't represent it. Mormonism has some issues.

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