Comments about ‘Is President Obama 'a snob?' Chris Christie, Rick Santorum disagree’

He is right on about conservatives being discriminated against in colleges and universities, particularly Utah's college system. But you just have to learn to play the game. Tell the teacher what she wants to hear instead, get your grade, and move on with your life.

17-18 vacations in three years? While millions of Americans are out of work...yes...oh, yes...he most definitely is--oh, the entire first family qualifies as such (I hesitate to use the word in the title of the article, lest D-News refuse to post my comment--you know, using the same word they use in the article...)

Re: Zona Zone

If you seriously believe that conservatives are discriminated against in colleges and universities, particularly in Utah's college system, you haven't been in a poli sci class lately. Trust me, the conservative dogma is well represented. The discussion of beliefs that differ from yours isn't persecution, it's called a dialogue. You might try it sometime.

Re: CWEB

Give it up. Our congressman has been on an equal number of "recesses" if not more in that same time period. As has virtually every president before President Obama. If you want to hate, that's fine. Just fine something credible to hate about.

They use the term "snob" because "uppity" is just a little too transparent in its meaning.

So far, President Obama has taken 61 vacation days after 37 months in office. At this point in their presidencies, George W. Bush had spent 180 days at his ranch where his staff often joined him for meetings. And Ronald Reagan had taken 112 vacation days at his ranch.

Give up this line of attack. The facts aren't with you...

Rick Santorum is just trying to pour gasoline on the flames of resentment in the Tea Party faction of this country. There is nothing wrong with saying every child should be able to go to the college and if anyone but President Obama had said it, there wouldn't be an issue at all. Yes, some kids won't want to go, but the option should be there.

And I'm sorry if you think it's rough being religious or conservative or anything else while in college, but the fact is if you think that, you're either just a whiner or lack the initial courage in your convictions.

Zone Zone, please tell us which school you are referencing. I have attended two schools in Utah, one a public junior college and one a private university, and neither were against conservatives or their views. There was more liberal points of view expressed in the high school I attended in Utah than either the college or the university.

Does Rick Santorum really want to go on record as the candidate who wants to make it harder for people to go to college? That strategy may win him friends among ultra-conservatives, but it will cost him the general election.

For all the cries of the Obama administration playing class warfare, why is it so acceptable to play the same card and now start castigating those with an education as being "liberals". At many levels Santorum is right, not everyone needs to go to college. But that opportuity should be available to all, and it should be their decision if they want to continue down that path if they like.

But to put forward the idea that the sole goal of education is to brain wash people into being liberals (socialist, communist), how off the wall is that. And yes, every kid, college or no college, after living 4 years away from home, will have a more liberalized way of thinking, in that they will not take what their pearents told them is true just on face value. Hopefully they will have come to that knowledge on their own, through challenging and growing their own beleifs. If that is called liberalism, I am all for it. I want my kids to believe what they believe because of the have created a beleif system within themselves, and not just because I told them so.

@CWEB

Are you really attacking Obama's family, including his two young daughters? That's just way beyond what is acceptable political discourse.

If you have to resort to implied name-calling against two young girls, you have already lost the argument.

IF President Obama thinks people who don't go to College are inferior to those who do... then he IS a "Snob". But I don't think he ever said that.

Somehow, Rick Santorum, who has more years in college than anybody else, (BA, MBA, JD) was able to hold onto his conservatism. Actually, the business schools and economics dept tend to be more conservative than the humanities and other depts at universities. For example, the Koch Foundation has donated money to USU and is involved in the hiring of teaching staff.

If Conservatives can convince people to not trust education, not trust science, and not trust media (except Fox) then their adherents are left with only the propaganda fed to them by their conservative leaders and media. Brilliant!

I can't believe that Rick thinks that this would help him in the Election. Saying that you need to not go to school to keep you religion seems ridiculous to me. But hey what do I know.

Only a Republican can actually make the argument that too much education is a bad thing!

That dreaming about having the opportunity to further your education is a bad thing!

That raising a generation of children/young adults who are more educated, more acknowledging of other opinions, cultures, beliefs, and more prepared to tackle the challenges of an every-growing world wide marketplace, is a bad thing!

If President Santorum, and many Republican posters on this site, had their way, Americans across the country would bunker down in their homes, and only allow themselves and their children to experience what they deem "necessary."

And this mentality helps America push forward into future generations how?

So out of touch.

I agree with Santorum that no everybody needs to go to college to get ahead in the world. However, I would dispute with him that a post-secondary education in any form is necessary to succeed in this world now a days.

It is regrettable that Mr. Santorum is trying to bring the standards or our nation down instead of lifting them up.

This topic is rich with valuable lessons and important semantic distinctions between the importance of education in this country (or perhaps the lack it of compared to the rest of the developed world), between the elitist concept of higher education (especially graduate school), and the practical economics and value of a post-high school education, community college, or technical school. In Utah, specifically, the push for post-high school education has been placed at the top end of state educational policy for decades and whether or not a four-year college degree as opposed to a two-year degree makes a huge amount of difference remains difficult to generalize or to judge. The extent to which those who aspire towards more advanced education and how religion is impacted is also of academic and political interest. There may be an association between those seeking more education and their connection already distachment to religion or there may also be an association with undergraduate and graduation schools with a more secular educational experience that may serve to diminish the religious experience of students unless a student specific continues to seek an established religious experience outside of school.

Nevertheless, this Presidential Republican Primary is offering the public a number of informative and intriguing substantive policy themes to reflect on even further.

People are making an usubstatiated leap if they think Santorum said there should be no secular education, or that all children must be home schooled, or that "too much education is a bad thing", or "you need to not go to school to keep you religion", or "he wants to make it harder for people to go to college", etc. He never said those things.

Why not deal with what he actually said... instead of what you wanted to hear?

re:2bits
"People are making an usubstatiated leap if they think Santorum said there should be no secular education...Why not deal with what he actually said... instead of what you wanted to hear?"

Santorum: 'Why does Obama want everybody to go to college? So his liberal college professors can be indoctrinating people like he has,'

ditto
Santorum makes a huge leap.

So why does Santorum, accusing Obama of hoping that people will go to college so they can then be indoctrinated, garner large applause?

Why not deal with what he (Obama) actually said rather than attributing nefarious motives?

Let's see:

Women MUST give birth to every fetus, regardless how it was conceived.
Gays MUST go back into the closet.
Women MAY NOT use contraceptives.
Men & women MAY ONLY have sex to procreate.
Children don't need an education.
Religion should be able to dictate to Government what to do.

What else is this nutcase going to try to impose on our Nation?

For the record: ÂI ask every American to commit to at least one year or more of higher education or career training. This can be community college or a four-year school; vocational training or an apprenticeship. But every American will need to get more than a high school diploma. And dropping out of high school is no longer an option. It's not just quitting on yourself, it's quitting on your country," President Obama, State of the Union, Feb 2009