Bill in Nebraska Donn: Where as mainstream Christians go, they accept baptisms
from each other. Where as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Saints does not
hold to the mainstream hold on baptism. The Church of Jesus Christ holds to the
fact that one must be baptized with the proper authority. The LDS Church holds
that the other mainstream religions has no proper authority to baptize.A
modern day prophet ,founded by a man, followed by others, who claim to be Gods
one true spokesman on earth accountable to no one but God.For false
messiahs and false prophets(JS) will appear and perform great signs and wonders
to deceive, if possible, even the elect.(Mt: 24:24)In the past God spoke
to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in
these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all
things, and through whom also he made the universe.(Heb 1:1-2)
Donn: Where as mainstream Christians go, they accept baptisms from each other.
Where as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Saints doesn hold to the
mainstream hold on baptism. The Church of Jesus Christ holds to the fact that
one must be baptized with the proper authority. The LDS Church holds that the
other mainstream religions has no proper authority to baptize, so basically
theirs don't count. The mainstream therefore, feel that our baptisms are a
mockery, thus one must be REBAPTIZED if leaving the LDS Church. So it
definitely doesn't mean it didn't hold.As for Rubio, we don't know
if he is still on the roles of the Church and it is the LDS Church's position
not to state who is or isn't dropped from its roles. Generally only the ex who
have an axe to grind go public with such a thing. Therefore, anyone guess is as
good as mine.As for flip flopping. Some need to read the article.
He is said to be a practicing Catholic but has on occassion attended baptist
meetings. So is he baptist, Catholic or LDS is really the question.
Viva la Migra: "As long as people are looking into childhood religions, at
what age did Obama abandon the religion of his birth father and step-father
(Islam) and convert to Christianity?"As noted, this could
easily be his first go at his now polished flip-flopping. Good grief!
Re: Sen Rubio,His first Catholic communion at age 13. First Communion must be
baptized within the Catholic faith The Catholic Church accepts protestant
baptisms, all Catholic and Protestants (Christians) invoke the trinity(triune
God) Mormons donât. His Mormon baptism must not have took.
I wonder how many people are aware that the Constitution states that there shall
be no religious test required to hold public office.
Two good-looking guys on the ticket.
"LDS LiberalRemember how the Utah Republican Mormons
questioned, pounced and then dragged Jon Huntsman Jr. through the mud about his
LDS Membership..."Yeah that was pretty rough. They really beat
him up about that ... and it's because he's obviously either a non-believer now
or at the least very distant from it. It's in his blood, family, state, and all
his surroundings but internally I don't think it's in his heart any more. I
don't think he believes it logically either. Although he wouldn't ever say
that. It would upset his entire social dynamic in Utah from family to friends
to politics.I'm generally uncomfortable with a Mormon as president,
especially in the case of Romney, but I was looking towards Huntsman as one of
my top picks. I will look for him in the future. He's very cultured and I like
the fact that he has a mixed family (both ethnically and in regards to
religion). He has extensive experience in China ... the next global mega
economy. This is going to be a very obvious tool for the US in the very near
future at the rate China is impacting the world economically.
deep in thought: "Having two Mormons on the ticket would make the media
frenzy even more ridiculous."He's not Mormon. He's Catholic.
At least has been from age 13.Look, Obama was Muslim for a segment
of his youth and now Christian. And he got forgiveness by the American voter.
Eddie: "Okay, let all those who are/were Rubio band wagon member's start
jumping off just because he is 'linked' to the Church."Not to
worry... he's now Catholic... Has been for years. Wait, that could label him a
As long as people are looking into childhood religions, at what age did Obama
abandon the religion of his birth father and step-father (Islam) and convert to
Christianity? Was he actually formally baptized, or did he just start attending
church without going through that process?
Good grief, the man is a practicing Catholic. Who cares what he did between the
ages of 8 and 13? This is such a non-issue.
Cats: Tell me you roll right past Pagan when you're reading posts. Really? I
always read his posts, and every one else's. I mean, isn't that the point of the
comment board, so we can all sit at our computers and get all incontinent about
what someone says that we don't agree with? Otherwise, it's just a waste of a
decent work day...That said, sometimes, I actually understand the
point Pagan is trying to make. That doesn't mean I agree with his point, but I
get it. This time, however, it flew right past me. I was just hoping for a
clarification, which I'm guessing I got from Claudio...I think.
@Lane MyerRubio is likely counted as a Catholic and as a Mormon as far as
the church's own membership roles are concerned since it seems he or his family
hasn't asked for name removal from the LDS church. In terms of things like
census records he's just counted as a Catholic.
I'm fine with Rubio as a VP. If he's now less active and goes to another
church, that's fine with me. It would be a good chance for Mitt to fellowship
Hello everyone, my turn at bat. I actually think it might be an advantage that
Sen. Rubio became Catholic, politically anyway. The Catholic religious
affiliation won't invite as much negative scrutiny as an LDS one does.
Hopefully the huge mainstream Christian community (that is so important for
Republican candidates) will look at as a feather in Rubios cap that he left the
LDS Church, not punish him for once having been in it. From what I know of Rubio
at this time, I really like him and I do see him as a likely Presidential
candidate in the future. Since I care about the country and its future, I'd
much rather have a good solid conservative in leadership that I share political
values with. The fact that we may not now share the same church is not really
that important. If Romney had changed to another church, I'd still be
I took Pagan's comment to mean something totally different.Either he
is a Mormon (he is counted in our 13 million members) or he is a Catholic (he is
counted in their number). One person cannot be counted in both faiths. Only
one faith per person.Maybe I was wrong?
@ deep in thought..."No, we wouldn't "love that". It's
enough having one Mormon running for president and see the liberal media attack
my religion at every opportunity. Some of the articles I read make me sick to my
stomach because of the blatant misrepresentations about those things I love
most. This presidential election means nothing to me compared to
beliefs."Dude if this is the way you feel, I suggest you go
hide in your closet and never come out. This is a free country where people are
free to think and speak their mind. The issue of misrepresentation happens to
one's church/religion, family, you as a person, your job, etc. The question is
how are you to deal with it? Are you going to embrace it as part of life and
think of it as opportunity to educate others or are you going to go hide and
hope nobody will talk bad about you?
Pagan-you should be more tolerant to Mormons.
Be careful Sen. Rubio --- Remember how the Utah Republican Mormons
questioned, pounced and then dragged Jon Huntsman Jr. through the mud about his
Anne, I hardly think changing your religion at 13 when you were baptized most
likely without much thought at 8 to be "jumping around" religions.
It's especially ironic considering most LDS converts are between the ages of
22-28. Do these converts not count as sincere because they changed their
religion so "late"?
How is it a Mormon ticket when only Romney is LDS? Odd thinking unless Rubio is
planning on reactivating, which would be a surprise. Frankly, the way
Rubio jumps around on religion doesn't exactly impress me. Seems like he is
rather easy to change on his stances.
@EddieWhy would people be upset with a connection that ended when he was
13? Actually yeah you're right, people aren't rational. Similarly I expect his
favorability among some similarly silly LDS members to fall because now he's an
I thought rubio was a dentist in Los Algodones, BCN, Mexico.
@ LValfreNo, we wouldn't "love that". It's enough having
one Mormon running for president and see the liberal media attack my religion at
every opportunity. Some of the articles I read make me sick to my stomach
because of the blatant misrepresentations about those things I love most. This
presidential election means nothing to me compared to beliefs.Having
two Mormons on the ticket would make the media frenzy even more ridiculous. I
know it and I'm sure the Romney team knows it too. We would have full blown
conspiracy theories going nuts. Rubio just got taken off the "short
list" in my opinion.
Dear Cats, most of us say the same about you. Unfortunately, you continue to
post. Welcome to a free society. Feel free to leave your opinion and allow us
the freedom to ignore you. And for those asking, it's pretty clear Pagan was
referring to Christianity as the one faith. Isn't that what we Mormons want to
be called? Pagan does and you have a fit about it? No wonder the people have
such a hard time understanding what the Church stands for when its' members
continue to confuse.
Wouldn't you Mormons love that!
Dear BYU Aggie and Ned Grimley: Why do you even waste your time reading his
posts. It is pointless! Responses are also pointless!
Okay, let all those who are/were Rubio band wagon member's start jumping off
just because he is "linked" to the Church. I can't wait to hear all
the hypocrites start trying to change their stories, especially all those
Pagan, I have days that I don't have a clue what you are carrying on about. I
must be getting old... However, this article does raise an intersting question.
If Rubio's name is still on the records of the church, could he and Mitt be the
first presidential home teaching companionship? Maybe they could visit Harry
@Pagan:I don't understand your question. Which faith are you
asserting is the ONLY one? Rubio's catholic (like Santorum and Gingrich).
Romney is Mormon. So, is the ONLY faith ANY faith?Rubio is very
popular in Florida and among Hispanic voters - making him a very likely choice
as a VP.
Rubio, of course, is the freshman senator from Florida and tea party favorite;
it is widely believed he will be on the short list for vice presidential
candidates if Mitt Romney wins the Republican presidential nomination. -
Article Well. So much for religious 'tolerance.' The claim contradicts itself when you can ONLY be of a certian faith.