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Published: Thursday, Feb. 23 2012 11:01 p.m. MST

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kibitzer
Magna, UT

If random stops are unconstitutional then sholdn't they be illegal in all cases?

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

No DUI checkpoints.

Abstinence only education.

State run liquor stores.

That's it.

I'm moving.

Oh, please!
Saint George, UT

RE: Pagan

Can I help you pack?!

open minded
Lehi, UT

Sounds like the Utah GOP are still mad that Killpack got busted for a DUI and are trying to make it harder to have politicians get busted for DUI's. If the supreme court says they are legal then according to the constitution they are legal- that's kind of how the constitution works.

Ok
Salt Lake City, Utah

Sounds good to me. We don't need cops snooping around our cars looking for opportunities to cite the driver and occupants.

Northern
Logan, UT

THANK my lucky stars that people are waking up to the abuse of power that is going on. Pagen you can move to Logan, cops will pull you over for putting your hair up at a traffic light and tell you your being a bad example to your daughter.

Law after law, things have gotten out of control. I'm glad that our elected officials are doing something about it. I just don't want to continue to down the road to a gestopo Utah.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

It does seem a bit ironical that the State of Utah wants to be in the business of selling you what is used to get you drunk, but wants to wash its hands of the responsibility of keeping those that are drunk off the roads.

Or perhaps another way to look at it,

The state wants to know that you bought something, but doesn't want to be any part of what you do with it once you buy it.

If the justification for this holds true, and it really is based on constitutionality of pre-emptive searches, then check points at concerts, the airports, or anywhere people must go through a scanner is equally unconstitutional. I expect all the scanners to be yanked from the airport soon as well. Unless you actually hi-jack a plane, feel free to travel on board with what ever you like.

In many ways, I can see this argument. Unless you commit a crime, you should have to worry. But I also see the value in status quo of getting those off the roads who could harm others due to compromised judgement. Driving, it is not a right.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

re: open minded,

The Deseret News reported: "Killpack, 41, was pulled over near 700 East and 3300 South about 12:15 a.m. after a member of the Utah Highway Patrol's DUI squad noticed a vehicle "with a poor driving pattern," said UHP Sgt. Jeff Nigbur. The vehicle was stopped in the parking lot of the Supersonic Car Wash."

How does his arrest relate to DUI checkpoints?

The 4th Amendment protects us against checkpoints. Law officers are required to obtain a warrant to search us or our property. Before that search warrant can be issued, there has to be probable cause.

How can anyone say that there is "probable cause" to stop every vehicle that passes a checkpoint? What is the "probable cause"? Was EVERY driver seen drinking? Was EVERY driver seen leaving a bar? Did EVERY driver throw out a can or a bottle? EVERY DRIVER?

Our freedom is too precious to allow improper searching.

Northern
Logan, UT

@ Utah Blue Devil

Please oh please end the Gestapo airport searches, it is the worst system anywhere. Its demeaning its inhumane its unconstitutional its looking for a needle in a stack of needles. Its nazi Germany.

A much better idea, require that all law abiding Americans carry a sidearm.

DeltaFoxtrot
West Valley, UT

Glad to see the state govt. is doing something about unreasonable searches. Now if only we could put a stop to the TSA.

Flashback
Kearns, UT

Search and siezure laws are different for vehicles and their occupants. Nothing unconstitutional about DUI check points. I guess Butterfield hasn't heard of Implied Consent?

Pagan, don't leave. I won't have anyone to give a hard time if you do.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

DeltaFoxtrot 8:34 a.m. Feb. 24, 2012,

The Republican party had a majority in the Senate and House and a Repbulican President when the TSA was created.

They belong to the same political party that dominates Utah leadership and lawmakers.

If you are upset with the TSA, don't vote Republian.

Oh, please! 4:06 p.m. Feb. 23, 2012,

I realize some may salivate at the prospect of me leaving Utah...

but you must realize this new thing call the 'internet' is availible in more places than just Utah, right?

Right?

No Filter
Spanish Fork, UT

It is interesting that we seem care more about wildlife and invasive species such as zebra mussels on boat propellers than the many innocent human lives that will no longer be saved because of this law change. Very sad, all because it is wrapped up in the blanket of freedom. Could it also be because more of the legislators are drinking and driving? Or, is perhaps because it is such an inconvenience to be delayed in our road raged state and how dare they violate my rights by asking me if I was safe to drive. Illegal search and seizure? Really? Perhaps it's just not fair for those that choose to violate the law and drink and drive. Sad day.

Trooper55
Williams, AZ

It was a tool we used and it did help us keep drunk drivers off the road. I work in the law enforcement field for over 28 years in the south and it didn't stop it, but it sure helped. I believe that if this law is pass in the senate that they will be sorry they did away with the DUI checkpoint, I hope that these people in the state lawmaker that none of their family ever get hurt from a drunk driver, because you are the one taking tool away from the State Police and the local Law enforcement officers to dotheir job. I am all for DUI checkpoints.

offramp
SLC, UT

Butterfield is either ignorant or purposefully ignoring facts, truths and statisitics. NHTSA research has proven, without a shadow of a doubt, that DUI checkpoints are the most effective tool against drunk driving. When used often and effectively they can lower DUI deaths by up to 25 percent. Saturation patrols are great for arresting drunks. Checkpoints are great for saving lives. Which is Butterfield more interested in?

Northern
Logan, UT

Making people stay in there houses or wear sumo suits would save lives but that doesn't mean we should do it.

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