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  • A Scientist Provo, UT
    Feb. 22, 2012 5:32 p.m.

    Moracle,

    Yeah, we know almost everyone in Utah has a "testimony" of Mitt Romney.

    Just because you assert that he is "all that", doesn't mean he is.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Feb. 22, 2012 11:23 a.m.

    The stating that the economy is recovering is not necessarily the truth. There are indicators such as the stock market but that is only one of a 100 different identifiers. Even though the BLS does an excellent job in many of it's surveys that doesn't mean it doesn't have holes or some fudging room for political performance methods. I don't believe it brings up data on individuals that stopped hunting or looking for jobs. I believe it is the same for government employees who have been chopped at all levels by 280,000 due to tax structures and downsizing. I don't think that includes in all cases, some of the military members who are in the process of being let go. I wonder if the next President will say for 4 years that he/she inherited the problems of the previous President. The Congress handles budgetary issues and oversight of those funds and the Congress was being run by the Democrats on both sides, Senate and House for 4 years. The President comes into power and he micromanages the Congress with every whim he had at his disposal going against logic and commonsense in many issues that engulfed the Congress in that time and carries over today. The President can spin everything to his way of thinking and the Press pushes his agenda 99.4 percent of the way.

  • Joan Watson TWIN FALLS, ID
    Feb. 22, 2012 10:43 a.m.

    It is far to early to celebrate the good times again economy. Just ask those who have been desperately seeking emplyment -hoping it pay more than minumum wage. It is not a time to think we are economically out of the woods

  • xscribe Colorado Springs, CO
    Feb. 22, 2012 10:22 a.m.

    @ouisc: Maybe you should try to answer your own question, as I don't see how the economy in your particular situation makes a difference. I'd say it's because companies keep raising rates, i.e., insurance, utilities, groceries, gas, etc. I'm not sure the economy would help you in that regard, as you still have the same job, unless you claim you would get higher raises if the economy were better. Again, you could explain it better for your particular circumstance.

  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Feb. 22, 2012 10:06 a.m.

    I hope Romney goes broke losing this election.
    Then he'll see just how inane Republican politics are.

  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Feb. 22, 2012 9:58 a.m.

    Mitt Romney is hurting Mitt Romney.

    Mitt Romney and Sarah Palin are the best things to happen to Democrats since---ever!

    The nation is too smart to elect a republican to the White house now.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 22, 2012 8:31 a.m.

    'Four years ago, the economic collapse came too little, too late for Mitt Romney, who had already lost the Republican nomination to John McCain after Mike Huckabee came in and swooped up the social conservative vote. - article

    On a personal note, I would like to say...

    ...people shouldn't politicize, events that factually bring harm, to our country.

    ** Michele Bachmann: God warns with disasters' - By Jamshid Ghazi Askar - DSNews - 08/29/11

    ** Perry leaves Texas wildfires, heads to GOP debate By Will Weissert AP Published by DSNews - 09/07/11

  • Chachi Charlottesville, VA
    Feb. 22, 2012 7:35 a.m.

    The economic collapse came too late for Romney in 2008, but did you seriously just say that it was too little to bolster him as a candidate? That our economic crisis wasn't severe enough?

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    Feb. 22, 2012 6:32 a.m.

    I think we can safely set aside the "left wing media manipulation," excuses, when publications like the Deseret News (and other news organizations which would seem to generally pander to the right) give us stories like this well written article. Mr. Obama and his team are whip smart. I work in a Catholic school and if you've ever attended meetings where issues of birth control, priest abuse and the Catholic Church's treatment of gays and women are discussed, you will see 300 church employees sitting quietly and listening with blank looks on their faces. When the Priest or leader is finished speaking they will step outside and literally seethe with anger. Believe me, many Catholics will vote not only with their hearts this election, but with a pent up anger toward their church and it's policies. Obama and his team are basically saying-"You wanna play the culture wars card? Bring it on."

  • Incite Full Layton, UT
    Feb. 22, 2012 6:17 a.m.

    From article: "despite Santorum's stance with the Catholic Church on contraception, Catholics prefer Romney over Santorum by 43 percent to 31 percent. On the flip side, Santorum is favored by Protestants 47 percent to Romney's 30 percent."

    I think this demonstrates the rampant antimormonism in the evangelical base. This is the main downside to Romney's candidacy... that he was born that way... with a religion that's not popular among protestant voters.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Feb. 22, 2012 5:29 a.m.

    Republicans cheering for a bad economy. Great. They gave us the recession and now they want to go on longer. Who do they work for?

  • Square Kokonut Orem, Utah
    Feb. 22, 2012 2:28 a.m.

    Romney has a history of flip-flopping on social issues while pandering to both sides of the political spectrum. His well publicized gaffes during debates and public appearances only expose him for the moderate everyone knows him to be. The 'Big Government' Republican establishment believe he can win the independent vote and the Obama camp who believe he will guarantee the President a second term have failed to hoodwink conservative Republican voters into crowning him the undisputed frontrunner to this day! Romney has the looks, the money and the organization to be just that...if only he were a TRUE conservative! The only thing 'hurting' Romney...IS Romney!

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    Feb. 21, 2012 11:05 p.m.

    dumprake 4:43 is not correct in his statement about the 2008 Democratic campaign. Obama had already won the nomination before the convention, and received it after the first (and only) presidential vote. This in spite of Obama's initial lack of both funds and organization compared to Sen. Hillary Clinton.

  • ouisc Farmington, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 10:40 p.m.

    I've been married, with the same two kids, living in the same house and the same job with modest income increases in the past four years. Nothing extravagent and little personal change.

    Those of you who think the economy has "recovered," why is it so much harder for me to pay my bills, now? If this is "recovered," then we're holding the economic bar pretty low right now.

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 10:06 p.m.

    Mr. Gingrich, I believe, is the only one to say in the debates that "Christianity is under attack;" addressing this issue is more important than the economy.

  • xscribe Colorado Springs, CO
    Feb. 21, 2012 8:20 p.m.

    How can economists say the stimulus did or did not work? All we know what is what has happened with the stimulus. No one can go back to the past and know what would have happened without it. Things could have been much worse. Or, to the contrary, they might have been better. Again, no one knows. And those who say they do know are flat wrong!

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 7:27 p.m.

    I'm not seein' the downside here.

  • I'll call it Ogden, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 7:22 p.m.

    It's easy to tell which readers are "recipients" of government subsistence.

    Some deserve and require it. However, they give it to about 1 out of 2 grownups these days.

    It's only 15 trillion dollars of debt or $50,000 for each new born that we welcome to our country. Yes, you should feel guilty.

    Do something about it folks. Look your yourself in the mirror. Get your self respect back.

    Here is your free arithmetic lesson.

    2 and 2 be 4

  • Brother Chuck Schroeder A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    Feb. 21, 2012 6:35 p.m.

    "ANYONE BUT OBAMA", six days a week and twice on Sunday. Santorum is done in 2012. He doesn't do anything without his advisors giving him pros and cons to every move he makes, even the contraception issue. Switch and bait is usable in politics and he has done it with many experts advising him, even the Chicago Group he has at a distance from DC but has full teleommunications and access directly to the White House. The GOP crash and economic collapse came, too late for Mitt Romney, who had already "QUIT for the Party" for the Republican nomination to John McCain and Sarah Palin. Now Gasoline prices could soar as high as $7 a gallon this summer thanks to supply threats stemming from Middle East unrest as well as OPEC policy. Iran has already cut off supply to France and to the U.K. to protest sanctions from the west, who accuse Tehran of developing a nuclear weapons program. U.S. military officials have said they feel they can ration with Iran, although fears are growing that Israel may consider a unilateral strike on Iran anyway, which is sending crude oil skyrocketing. Fire Congress and ObamaNation, start over.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 6:29 p.m.

    *sigh*

    Has anyone else noticed that we are still only in February? The stories literally do a 180 degree turn every two weeks. Right now the Republican party is ending as we know it and Obama is just cruising to a second term.

    In two weeks, gas prices will have jumped and Obama's approval ratings will slip. And the 24 hour news cycle will have fresh chum to feed on.

    I am really not one to cheer bad unemployment numbers. I don't want people to suffer so my ideology will win. However I really do believe that if Obama gets another term, even some of his most ardent supporters will be shocked at the changes that take place. If you follow his political and economic philosophy to their logical conclusion, things don't improve. They just settle in to permanent high unemployment or underemployment. Keep in mind that the unemployment number coming out of Washington only measures new unemployment claims. It does not account for those who have rolled off the unemployment rolls.

    Obama claims to be for 'working Americans' and 'the middle class' and yet he is against things that help to make us less dependent on government.

    High gas prices + no new drilling + no Keystone = more dependence on foreign oil.
    Higher capital gains taxes (he wants to go from 15% to 30%) means less retirement savings = more dependence on social security and medicare.

    Higher taxes on corporations = less hiring = more dependence on government jobs/aid.

    And we slowly take our place among all the other nations.

  • homebrew South Jordan, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 6:23 p.m.

    Worf:: Heres some FACTS for you. In 2001 the Cbo projected ,because of Bill Clintons policies that by 2011, our country would have ZERO national debt, and a 2.3 trillion dollar surpluss. What Happened??Peter Orsag ,the OMB directer under President Obama, stated in 2009 that in the 9 trillion in defecits forcast for the period of 2010-2019, 5 trillion are due to programs from the Bush administration. Including tax cuts from 2001-2003 and the unfunded medicare part D. Another 3.5 trillion are due to the financial crisis including reductions in future tax revenues and additional spending for social safety net such as unemployment benefits. The remainder are stimulus and bailout programs , related to the crisis.Who caused the crisis Worf?? Economist Mike Kimel notes that 5 former democratic presidents, Clinton,Carter,Johnson,kennedy,and Truman ALL reduced public debt as a share of GDP. While the last 4 republican preidents Bush, Bush,Reagan, Ford All oversaw an increase in the country's indebtedness as a share of GDP. If you look at the facts and the truth, WHY would anyone vote Republican. Democratic Policies work, Republican policies DONT.

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    Feb. 21, 2012 6:14 p.m.

    The recent up-tic in employment is more imagined than real.
    Federal unemployment numbers do not count those who quit looking for work. When you look at the total percentage of the adult population that is currently employed we are at an all time low.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Feb. 21, 2012 6:06 p.m.

    re:Zoni
    Conservatives tend to frame the world in absolute, black/white terms, while liberal's worldview is more shades of gray so to speak. Conservatives put more value on party purity, loyalty etc. The Republican Party is becoming narrower demographically.

    re:dumprake
    Actually, in 2008, Obama and Clinton were the main frontrunners the entire campaign. By February, John Edwards wasn't a factor anymore. Clinton suspended her campaign in June, 2-3 mons before the convention.

    However, this Republican primary is not all that different than the last primary involving John McCain, Huckabee, Fred Thompson Romney etc.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 6:05 p.m.

    @williary

    You mention tax cuts as something both Bush and Obama did, but hinted that Bush destroyed America and Obama helped. For one, that universal health care didn't help America. Economists already stated that the stimulus DIDN'T WORK. What jobs were created? Any real jobs, or just short-term jobs? How many jobs were lost?

    You make it sound as if life was horrible under Bush. Think again.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 5:55 p.m.

    Maybe the conservatives can hope for economic collapse for another four years after the President is re-elected. This may not have been the best way to run a political party.

  • Moracle Blackshear, GA
    Feb. 21, 2012 5:52 p.m.

    Here is what we would have with Romney in the White House:

    Romney is compassionate - (How many would close their business & take employees to another city in order to help find an employee's missing daughter, or take 10 years of their life to voluntarily serve as a Mormon Christian Bishop to administer to the needs of others?)
    Romney is good - (Why else would his family and friends love him so?)
    Romney is squeaky-clean - (That's why we don't hear trashy relationships in his past).

    Romney is expert in Business, Finance, Trade, and Turning Around Failing Organizations - (How else could he have taken an Olympics that was millions in debt, turn it around, and leave it with a $100 million surplus, or as Governor, take a state that was deeply in debt and leave it with A $2 BILLION Rainy-Day Fund, or in his personal business, make millions turning around at-risk businesses?)

    In fact, it would be fair to say:
    The fact that Romney paid a low income tax rate should convince the people of America that He knows what He's doing!

    He knows how the tax system works!
    He knows how money works!
    He knows how business works!
    He knows how the financial system works!

    AND,

    He knows how the economy works!
    He knows how the market works!
    He knows how international trade works!
    He knows how to eliminate waste spending & unproductive departments & agencies.

    He knows how job creation works!
    He knows how the political system works!
    He knows how national defense works!
    He knows how the borders work!

    He knows how The Constitution of the United States of America works (he loves our Constitution and the rights and freedoms it is designed to protect and will seek to bring it back to wholeness, after being shredded by those who do not respect it!)

    America, He knows how this country works!

    And if we elect him to be President of the United States of America, together, we will show the World how it works!â

  • Moracle Blackshear, GA
    Feb. 21, 2012 5:48 p.m.

    Does anyone seriously think that the voter-influencing polling organizations are not controlled by the same ultra-liberals that own, and/or control, the nation's other voter-influencing institutions, internet, and media?

    Have you noticed how the polls have shown the candidates almost neck & neck, days before the caucuses & primaries (to keep from showing Romney's lead, most likely) and then, almost magically, Romney would be shown rising in the polls just a couple of days before the event (evidently, to maintain our belief that the polls are reliable)?

    Since the last person in the primaries Obama wants to run against is said to be Romney -- is anyone willing to believe the polls are not skewed to show Santorum in the lead, and will somehow, magically move up to show Romney's lead, a few days before the next contest? Could this be because they want to run against Santorum rather than Romney, because they think he is the easier to defeat?

    Folks, don't let the left-leaning polls and media pull a fast one on you. In this day of clandestine manipulations of the political process, we have to be smarter than the adversaryâs cunning, sophistries, and lies.

    Donât let the manipulated polls and media trickery influence your vote.

  • Brother Chuck Schroeder A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    Feb. 21, 2012 5:47 p.m.

    Let's word this correctly here. Four years ago, the economic collapse came, too late for Mitt Romney, who had already "QUIT for the Party" for the Republican nomination to John McCain and Sarah Palin. Now Gasoline prices could soar as high as $7 a gallon this summer thanks to supply threats stemming from Middle East unrest as well as OPEC policy. Iran has already cut off supply to France and to the U.K. to protest sanctions from the west, who accuse Tehran of developing a nuclear weapons program. U.S. military officials have said they feel they can ration with Iran, although fears are growing that Israel may consider a unilateral strike on Iran anyway, which is sending crude oil skyrocketing. Higher oil prices lead to high gasoline prices, which have prompted some U.S. refineries to close up shop when people buy less fuel, which further exacerbates supply issues. Don't blame speculators on rising prices either. OPEC countries are ensuring prices stay high by regulating output. Santorum did nothing to stop this either, Santorum is done in 2012.

    We could start solving some of our problems by vote them all out of Office come November 2012.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 5:39 p.m.

    @Riverton Coug

    Bringing up what Presidents from 200 years ago spent is like comparing the Gross Ticket Revenue between Avatar and The Wizard of Oz!

    Both Bush and Obama have spent a ton of money. The circumstance each inherited were night and day, even though Repubs forget that little fact.

    Difference is one did it solely on unfunded wars, and an unfunded prescription drug plan, and by giving away Clinton's surplus as tax cuts. While millions of jobs were lost, and America fell apart.

    The other has done it on jobs, healthcare, some tax cuts, unemployment, etc. You know, things that actually help Americans. Trying to fix the last guys Depression.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 5:38 p.m.

    As hard as the Republicans have wanted Perry, Gingrich, Bachman and Santorum who have all had their ups and mainly downs and wanted to have Romney out of there, he is still there and even though Santorum has had a little upward activity, he and his big donor have some things that they have said will impact on their standing. Religion is becoming a topic, even with the Democrats now so that will be a topic for the next 9 months. So now we will have politics and religion, which is what we're not to discuss unless you want some bad reactions. Santorum and Obama are discussing morality issues that will draw a crowd from the Christians. Jeremiah Wright didn't discuss these types of issues, I am sure in his 20 years with the President, at least in this format. It will be interesting to see how these types of comments will ride the political campaign waves and trails this year. Very Interesting.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 5:34 p.m.

    @Zoni

    "Why is it that if a Conservative changes his mind on an issue he's flip flopping? But if a Liberal changes his mind he's reassessing his position?"

    Signed Senator John Kerry!

    Stop the pitty party. This isn't a war against Repubs. Or it is a war as much as it was a war against John Kerry. But I don't imagine you were riding to his defense.

    Just calling it like they see it.

    Mitt and Kerry could run circles around each other with the Flip-Flops they told!

  • morganh Orem, Utah
    Feb. 21, 2012 5:28 p.m.

    In 2008 Obama said that he would work with Republicans and Democrats to get this country moving again in the right direction. Well that has proved false since he used his Congressional majority to pass "Obamacare" which many in his own party including then Speaker Pelosi to say" we have to pass this to know what's in it". Republicans in the House have passed legislation to create jobs and balance the budget however it sits in the "do nothing senate" controlled by Democrat Harry Reid. Obama says the rich don't pay their fair share well groups such as the Tax Foundation who get data from the I.R.S. show that the rich pay the majority of our taxes. He also just recently said our founders made it very hard to change our Constitution which is something that he wished could be changed. That alone scares me about him. It is time for Obama to stop destroying this country and put in someone else whether it is Romney or Santorum who can right the wrongs of the past 4 years.

  • Cowboy Dude SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 5:10 p.m.

    Economic improvement is good for everyone including Romney. I certainly hope there is nobody wishing for bad things too happen in the next year just so we can get a Republican President.

    I want Romney for President, but I still pray for President Obama everyday.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 4:59 p.m.

    ""* Obama has spent more money than all other presidents combined."

    That's false."

    @atl134

    Actually, he is only slightly wrong. He added more debt than all presidents from George Washington to George H.W. Bush combined.

    "So, continually citing Obama's contrabutions to the debt only hurts your side.

    Bush, Doubled the debt.

    Obama, has not."

    @Pagan,

    AGAIN!?!?!?!? You have got to be kidding me! Is there anyone out there willing to fork out some money for a personal math tutor for Pagan?

    Again we see that $5 trillion is greater than $6 trillion (people probably thought I was exaggerating Pagan's words, but here you hear it from the horse's mouth that Bush added more debt than Obama).

  • Zoni Tucson, AZ
    Feb. 21, 2012 4:48 p.m.

    Why is it that if a Conservative changes his mind on an issue he's flip flopping? But if a Liberal changes his mind he's reassessing his position?

  • dumprake Washington, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 4:43 p.m.

    It's hilarious how these pundits pretend to know what they're talking about. This is early in the presidential primaries. How many candidates have we seen soar than fall within a week or two; Bachman, Perry, Gingrich, Romney, Paul, Santorum. And this pretty much happens in both parties. So drawing conclusions about it at this early date is pretty dumb. IN 2008, Obama was not the leader going into the Democratic convention, Hillary was, but look who's sitting in the oval office pretending to lead.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 4:36 p.m.

    Oh Ho! Now Romney has found still one more thing he can blame on Obama.

    This is getting tiresome. Why not man up, take a long look at all our government's policies, and place wherever and on whomever it belongs? But that would mean admitting that conservatism and conservatives like Reagan, Bushes, et al are not infallible.

    Yet it any candidate would be brave enough to do so, maybe we could start solving some of our problems.

  • Grandma Char Kaysville, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 4:24 p.m.

    We still have a long time until the election. I do not believe our economic picture is rosy. Obama said on Feb 14: "As the economy strengthens, global demand for oil increases"..and this is his explanation for the high gas prices. However, it does not match up with the information that the Saudi's are cutting back production because of global recession.

  • SammyB Provo, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 4:15 p.m.

    The reason Mitt can't connect with the voters emotionally is 3-fold:

    first, he is Mormon and no matter what some say here, that is a very real issue.

    Second, the press is constantly saying that and it has become self-fulfilling prophecy. During 2008 when he was seen as too conservative by the media and fellow-candidates, the live audiences at the debates picked him as winner every time and were enthusiastic about him.

    Third, media bias with proven negative phrases is giving people a dark feeling about him. Although Mitt flip-flops less than both Gingrich and Santorum, that label is constantly used and believed by those who don't search. Yes he has changed his mind in the past ten years on a few issues after studying them, but originally he was like Reagan, moving toward conservatism with age. He flipped but did not flop.

  • LValfre CHICAGO, IL
    Feb. 21, 2012 4:12 p.m.

    SammyB
    Provo, UT

    "to a very impressionable and fickle populace."

    Have you looked around you on Sundays? Have you watched the 'change of views and beliefs' as new revelations pass over the past few decades?

    Look at home first before pointing your finger at the general populace.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 4:08 p.m.

    @worf

    You sound like the Repubs on the campaing trail. Just because you say it, doesn't mean it's not factually incorrect:

    In 3 full years on the job, the Unemployment rate has gone from 8.2%, February 2009, to 8.3%, February 2012. In the midst of a Depression, the unemployment rate is right where it was at when W. high-tailed it out of office. Good thing the Stimulus didn't work right! I believe 23 straight months of private sector job growth, with the last 7 being 6-digit growth per month.

    Every dollar President Obama has spent doesn't even come close to the 2 Unfunded Wars, and Unfunded Prescription Drug Plan that George W. Bush piled on to the debt. Add to that the fact that this President has spent to help save American jobs that Bush lost, instead of trying to avenge his fathers failure.

    But I don't expect the facts to be enough to sway you!

  • Mick Murray, Utah
    Feb. 21, 2012 4:03 p.m.

    1/3rd of the money spent by our governemnt over the past 200+ years has been spent by BHO in 3.5 years.

    We are headed for a situation like Greece. Who will bail us out?

  • DonO Draper, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 4:02 p.m.

    The GOP continues to shoot itself in its vital organs. I mean, Rick Santorum?? He has all the depth of a backyard kiddie pool.

    Altogether now:

    Happy second term to you,

    Happy second term to you,

    Happy second term Mr. Obama,

    Happy second term to yoooou!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 3:58 p.m.

    Romney will have to call it quits soon - the GOP base doesn't want him. Too bad - Mitt is a a really smart guy - he would have been a good president and certainly gotten us out of this Obama sink hole. Mitt is a CEO - not a politician and that is his problem. To win an election you have to be able to connect with voters emotionally and Mitt just can't do it.

  • SammyB Provo, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 3:53 p.m.

    There is a general inability in mankind to perceive media manipulation. When it is overt they can, therefore people feel their antenna is up. But the subtle manipulation is very effective. Imagine George Washington running for president today. His shy reserve would be taken as rich arrogance. The press would have a field day with him because he couldn't be bought.

    Fox News is actually more negative toward Romney than the other news orgs. with the constant subtle implications, most of which are false, like; he governed as a moderate, (check the record) he can't energize the base, (watch the crowds at his speeches) the establishment and media is shoving him down our throat (statistics show more than twice as much media bias against him as the next highest candidate) and I could go on and on with the subtle twists designed to make him distasteful to a very impressionable and fickle populace.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 3:19 p.m.

    The numbers are not the only indication of the economy. The President ensured his Obamacare plan didn't kick in until 2013 and beyond. He didn't want that to impact on his running for a second term. He doesn't ever get a budget through so he can say if there are problems it is the Congress that caused it. He has much to do about the economy with a Secretary of the Treasury who didn't pay his income taxes until he was caught in the Senatorial hearings. The Czars that Obama has didn't go through the vetting process so we don't know about their agendas. This President is about as political as any President has been since Lyndon B. Johnson who worked for decades to get to his position and cunning at that. The President was able to take down one of the strongest political women in the US when he got Hilliary Clinton to back out of the Presidency. He has many tools and people at his beck and will with debts owed to him for their part in the past 4 years. He doesn't do anything without his advisors giving him pros and cons to every move he makes, even the contraception issue. Switch and bait is usable in politics and he has done it with many experts advising him, even the Chicago Group he has at a distance from DC but has full teleommunications and access directly to the White House. In 2000, the Ford Explorer and Firestone tires became the hot issue in the Democratic Convention to overshadow that timeframe with a controversy. Ford survived and that may have been good for their overall PR as they didn't take any bailout money. Things happen and it will be interesting to see what happens in this year's conventions of both parties. Ross Perot knew he would cause damage to #1 Bush in 1992 by his moves to take away 15 percent of the Republican votes and in reality Bush lost the election.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 3:12 p.m.

    worf | 2:35 p.m. Feb. 21, 2012,

    George W. Bush, doubled the national debt
    Ronald Regan, tripled the national debt
    Unemployment has gone DOWN, from 10% to 8%
    Bush took 1020 vacation days. That's almost x3 years, on our dime
    Bush raised the debt ceiling...x7 times.
    Bush took America into two wars he couldn't pay for:

    ** Audit: US can't account for $8.7B in Iraqi funds' - By Tarek El-tablawy - AP - Published by DSNews - 07/27/10

    So, continually citing Obama's contrabutions to the debt only hurts your side.

    Bush, Doubled the debt.

    Obama, has not.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 3:09 p.m.

    "* Obama has spent more money than all other presidents combined."

    That's false.

    "* Unemployment has sky rocketed in the past three years."

    That's false. Unemployment has been declining for two years and he inherited a 700k jobs lost per month status January 2009 so no matter who was president unemployment was going to go up the first year.

    "* Wasting billions on solyndra, Finnish auto plants, vacations, and Mexican auto plants, are hurting our country."

    As opposed to Romney who thinks we wasted billions on GM and Chrysler.

  • Informed Voter South Jordan, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 2:53 p.m.

    The writer nailed it: "Mitt Romney can be taught to sing from the conservative hymnal on these issues, but he sounds out of tune on them. He's happy enough to represent social conservatives on these issues, but it clearly isn't the reason he got into this race," Dougherty writes.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 21, 2012 2:35 p.m.

    White House's moves hurting the country:

    * One third of our countries debt has come in the last three years.
    * Obama has spent more money than all other presidents combined.
    * Unemployment has sky rocketed in the past three years.
    * Michelle is still skiing in Colorado on our dime.
    * Fourteen trillion is not one third of fifteen trillion. The commander adding five trillion to the debt is a third.
    * Wasting billions on solyndra, Finnish auto plants, vacations, and Mexican auto plants, are hurting our country.

    If this is a close race, we're in trouble.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 2:30 p.m.

    Santorum does not have a chance. He will alienate too many who are not conservatives. The economy is still lousy and with gas prices going up, will do worse in the next few months. The actual unemployment rate is upwards of 12 to 15 percent when you factor in those who quit looking for work and are no longer counted.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 2:22 p.m.

    The news just keep getting better for President Obama.

    He's seeing a recovery to the Depression the Republicans started. A trend that severely hurts Mitt.

    And now he sees Rick Santorum and his 200 Electoral votes taking the lead!

    Call it a belated Christmas gift to Democrats everywhere.

    Actually Americans everywhere. Given the choice between handing the recovering economy back to the party who caused the Depression, or letting the man who has helped it ease its way back from the edge continue to work, it's an easy choice. And one that is benefiting Americans who aren't just the 1%.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 1:59 p.m.

    Another thing I would like to add, is that the White House is not soley responsbile for Romney's woes:

    ** Fox News host: Romney not Christian' - By Hal Boyd, Deseret News - 07/17/11

    ** Cult of Mormon comment leads Newt Gingrichs Iowa political director, Craig Bergman, to resign - By Tad Walch Deseret News 12/14/11

    ** Rick Santorum-backing pastor plays the Mormon cult card By Joseph Walker Deseret News 01/20/2012

    ** Rick Perry backer decries Mitt Romney, Mormons' - By Jamshid Ghazi Askar, Deseret News - 10/08/11

    (Robert) Jeffress described Romney's Mormon faith as a 'cult,' and said evangelicals had only one real option in the 2012 primaries. ... Asked by Politico if he believed Romney is a Christian, Jeffress answered: 'No.'  - Article

    A deeply entrenched anti-Mormon bias in the Republican party.

    Of which, Obama is NOT a part of.

    Many claim 'liberal bias' against the Mormon faith (I have mentioned I think Mormonism is a Judeo-Christian faith) and yet, to date, Obama has said...

    ** President Obama's purported 'weird'-Mormon strategy against Mitt Romney will backfire, pundits say' - By Hal Boyd, Deseret News - 08/10/11

    ...zero.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Feb. 21, 2012 1:58 p.m.

    Like I've been saying from the beginning of the primary, Romney has 2 main problems:
    1. He's Mormon--not a "true Christian" in some conservative's views.
    2. He's not a "true" conservative--too many flip-flops.

    I'm not surprised at all that Santorum is doing well acmong conservatives, only that it took so long for him to get everybody's attention.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 1:53 p.m.

    Mitt Romney reminds me of a passage of scripture regarding the lack wisdom --

    While I was laboring under the extreme difficulties caused by the contests of these parties..., I was one day reading the Epistle of James, first chapter and SIXTH verse, which reads: "For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed."

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 1:45 p.m.

    This time around for Mitt, the economic issue may have come too early. - Article

    Don't think it's JUST the economy.

    Changing stances:

    ** Mitt Romney steers clear of Ohio health, union issues' - By Dan Sewell - AP - Published by DSNews - 10/25/11

    ** Mitt Romney reverses himself, supports anti-union law' - By Philip Elliott - AP - Published by DSNews - 10/26/11

    Abortion:

    ** Romney Maintained Massachusetts Contraception REQUIREMENT That Mirrors Obamas Rule' - By Igor Volsky - Think Progress 02/07/12

    Gay rights:

    ** Mitt Romney pledges opposition to gay marriage' - CBS News - 08/04/11

    Then:

    It's also notable because Romney was not always such a strong opponent of gay rights. In 1994, he he sent a letter to a gay Republican group saying he would be a stronger advocate for gay rights... - Same Article

    Mitt Romney has spent so longer pandering to anyone who will listen...

    you don't know WHERE he will end up on issues.

    How can you support someone, if you don't know they will support you, tomorrow?