Unfortunately I think the correct call is to rest Hartsock Thursday knowing that
should BYU lose (seems likely), they will have to beat Gonzaga in the semis to
make the dance.
upinthenightWhat seed are the rundown Utes projected?*crickets*
RE: VinceYou don't follow NCAA basketball do you? Can you name an at
large team that has ever been seeded 14,15 or 16? Those seeds ALWAYS go to teams
from the small conferences like the SWAC, America East, Southland, Big South,
Big Sky, Patriot, Southern and a few others. A team from the WCC will not
be seeded higher than 12. If BYU wins the WCC tourney and gets the automatic
bid, they will be somewhere between 7-10, if they don't depending on the
remaining games, they will end up an 11 or 12. The WCC as a conference is RPI
#11, PAC 12 is just barely ahead of them at #10. MWC, A10, Missouri Valley and
Conference USA are all higher than the PAC 12. One more interesting stat.
The PAC12 has a grand total of '2' wins against Top 50 RPI outside the
Joe Lunardi's picks mean a whole lot more than the jealous whining of Utah
trolls - at least Joe's picks are recognized as legitimate by a national
A 12 seed? Bull-on-ey! They will be very fortunate to even get in and should get
a 16 seed if they do!
Joe Lunardi's picks don't mean much. A no. 12 seed means BYU is a bubble team -
could be just as easily out as in. Seeds lower than 12 are usually automatic bid
teams from smaller conferences.
NevadaCoug said:"I hate to say it, but the WCC teams will
continue to see their stock fall for the tournament. Typical of every season:
teams in "lesser" conferences have a slip up or two in conference play
and suddenly they just aren't that good anymore. Yet teams in "elite"
conferences can lose to patsies and not have it hurt them as much; just because
those patsies play in "elite" conferences, so that must mean they are
"elite".WCC will get no more than two teams in the
Tourney. They deserve more, but won't get it. They'll be replaced by a mediocre
team from the Big East, SEC, Big 10, or some such conference."I
think you will see more teams from mid-conferences this year. Yes most of major
conferences are ranked high ingeneral. But someone is going to fill slots
not taken by the PAC, SEC and even ACC to a point.
If BYU does make the big dance, surely it will be in either the East or West
regionals since the South and Midwest region finals are on Sunday. If success
in the big dance is winning 2 games and making it to the SWEET 16, then a 12 or
13 seed has the best chance because they get a 4 or 5 seed the second game
(after beating a different 4 or 5 seed the first game). If success in the the
big dance is winning 3 games, then it is easiest as an 11 seed: An 11 seed has
to beat a 6, 3, and 2 seed in that order to make the ELITE 8. Whereas if you
are an 8 or 9 seed, you play the 1 seed your second game (horrible). Since 1
and 2 seeds are usually very elite teams, better to play nothing higher than a 3
or 4 seed the first couple games. So an 11 or 12 seed would probably be ideal
for BYU, with 13 or 14 not bad (none play a 1 or 2 until 3rd game).
If BYU beats Gonzaga this Thur., then they will be a 2 seed in the WCC
tournament and ought to be a lock for the big dance. But Gonzaga has only lost
7 home games in 8 seasons! And they have already lost their one home game for
this season! 4 of Gonzaga's 5 losses this year have been road games. The only
team that beat them at home this year: RPI #2 Michigan State. Yes, that is an
RPI ahead of Kentucky, Duke, Missouri, Baylor, Ohio State, and everybody else
besides Syracuse. And against Michigan State, Gonzaga was only down 1 at
halftime, and within 6 points under 5 minutes to go. So it is probably a pipe
dream to win at Gonzaga---especially with a banged up BYU team. So no need feel
bad losing at Gonzaga; and it seems wise not to rush players back from injuries
that perhaps really ought to be held out this week.
I hate to say it, but the WCC teams will continue to see their stock fall for
the tournament. Typical of every season: teams in "lesser"
conferences have a slip up or two in conference play and suddenly they just
aren't that good anymore. Yet teams in "elite" conferences can lose
to patsies and not have it hurt them as much; just because those patsies play in
"elite" conferences, so that must mean they are "elite".WCC will get no more than two teams in the Tourney. They deserve more,
but won't get it. They'll be replaced by a mediocre team from the Big East,
SEC, Big 10, or some such conference.
Lin is also not a rookie. Give Jimmer a good seasoning and he'll be just fine.
Remember Lin doesn't have all the "to die for" skills either, but man
he is smart. Jimmer will be the same.