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Published: Saturday, Feb. 18 2012 9:38 a.m. MST

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Layton, UT

There is no "war on religion". It's a catch-phrase used by politicians to put fear into supporters and (surprise!) get money.

The current complaint is against the Obama administration's now-altered requirement for all healthcare plans to cover contraceptive drugs.

But think about it! If churches are engaging in business (corporate activities), shouldn't they provide the same level of healthcare to their employees, as do other corporations? Do those religions require their corporate employees to worship in the same way, believe in the same way, and go only to like-minded physicians? Of course not!

Every women I've ever known, including myself, has taken a contraceptive drug at one time in their lives. Often, such drugs are prescribed to preserve fertility (ie, if there is a history of infertility).

One woman I know, was raped. It wasn't her fault that she was a criminal's target. It happened when she would have been most "fertile" but luckily, she did not get pregnant. She was on physician-prescribed contraceptives.

Not to be TOO blunt, but have you noticed that there's no outcry against religious-owned corporations to deny Viagra to their male employees?

Let it rest, folks. We are all intelligent enough to take care of ourselves.

ParkCityAggie
Park City, Ut

Lets see - we have constant complaints voiced by some conservatives claiming that there is religious discrimination in America yet faith-based organizations are enjoying greater freedoms than others (501c tax status, various and multiple land-use exemptions, the government lets them keep billions of dollars in donations tax free). And now we have special pleadings for even more exemptions under the banner religious freedom. It's more like a war on society BY religion!

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'Ever since the highly scrutinized "Strong" ad by Rick Perry hit the web, the talk of a war on religion has been on the lips of religious and conservative groups across the nation.' - Article

Let's look at this claim.

Rick Perry, put out this ad. Confirming his religious convictions.

Who struck the first blow in this 'war?'

Has anyone 'infringed' in Rick Perry's ability to pray?

To donate to his faith?

His ability to get pregnant? (Sarcasm)

No, no, and of course, no.

So, who STARTED this 'war on religion?'

Religion.

And FYI, Rick Perry's 'strong' add...?

Is the most disliked video on You Tube, to date.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

Also, all this 'war' rhetoric from religion, about religion really started when Obama proposed birth control for Catholic women...

who already 80% of catholic women USE birth control.

And yet:

** 'Romney Maintained Massachusetts Contraception Requirement That Mirrors Obamaâs Rule' - By Igor Volsky - Think Progress - 02/07/12

'In 2002 â the very same year Romney campaigned for governor of Massachusetts â the state enacted a âcontraceptive equityâ law that REQUIRED insurers that provide outpatient benefits to cover hormone replacement therapy and ALL FDA-approved contraceptive methods.' â article

When Mitt Romney signed legislation that made it REQUIRED that contraceptives be allowed...

...conservatives, said nothing.

I guess it's 'ok' for Romney to sign the same legislation for Massachusets...

in 2002..?

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

The Founding Fathers were right about the seperation of Church and State;

If you want to keep Government out of Religion,
You must keep Religion out of the Government.

Conservative Christians, insisting that America is a "Christian" nation,
and who keep writing silly one-sided laws are trampling the Constitution -
and are in fact, the very one's threatening our Freedom of Religion.

George
Bronx, NY

@dn editors
so you going to run the story on the mass student attacked for writing a column in support of gays or are you going to pretend you are the only victims in the world?

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

George,

The Deseret News couldn't POSSIBLY do that. (Sarcasm)

Instead, we've seen examples they can only defend a boy for defending 'traditional' family values...

by using a Bible quote that condems homosexuals, to death:

**'Boy, 15, reprimanded for backing traditional family in school paper' - By Joshua Bolding, Deseret News - 01/27/12

'He (Wegner) also quoted scriptures like Leviticus 20:13: "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death...' â article

J Thompson
SPRINGVILLE, UT

There is no Constitutional requirement to "keep religion out of government". An establishment of religion has every Constitutional right to promote its doctrine, even when some believe that its doctrine is off-base.

The prohibition that everyone can read if they would just put away their keyboards long enough to get self-educated, prohibits Congress from passing any legislation pertaining to an establishment of religion. The President is barred from enforcing any legislation pertaining to an establishment of religion by his oath of office. The Court is prohibited from declaring valid any legislation pertaining to an establishment of religion because WE, THE PEOPLE, hold all power and all rights and we have forbidden them.

That is what the Constitution is all about. It does not matter that some are telling us that those who are Islam might want to exercise their religious rights; those rites are protected. That is the Supreme Law of the Land.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

J Thompson | 3:15 p.m. Feb. 18, 2012
SPRINGVILLE, UT

That is what the Constitution is all about. It does not matter that some are telling us that those who are Islam might want to exercise their religious rights; those rites are protected. That is the Supreme Law of the Land.

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I might have to pull and old thumbdrive -- but I disticntly recall you were one of the Fox News watchers who fought against the Islamic Cultural center in New York City.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

LDS Liberal 5:10 p.m. Feb. 18, 2012,

Supported:

** Thousands chant 'No Mosque here!' on 9/11 Aniversary' - By Guy Benson - Townhall - 09/12/10

For some, Freedom of Religion...

only, covers one.

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