So one of Trump's many nightmare nominees, Flynn, is gone. But now we
learn that at least 4 Trump campaign aides may have been colluding with the
Russians during the election. Trump surely must have known. We need a full
independent investigation of these ties to the Russians, including a full review
of Trump’s taxes & finances and any Russian entanglements. It’s
the patriotic duty of Congressional Republicans to call for this investigation.
This isn't a partisan issue. Neither Republicans nor Democrats want a
foreign power, particularly Russia, interfering in our elections. Neither wants
our President beholden to a foreign power, particularly Russia.
@Joan Watson " We do not know the content of that conversation,
but it may have been along the lines of President Obama telling a Russian
diplomate after he thought the mike had been turned off, that "he would have
more leverage after the election"."Joan, unfortunately we
are starting to see more of this sort of logical fallacy being used to defend
the Trump administration. Faux News - Particularly Sean Hannity is the king of
this. One simply cannot compare apples to oranges. Also, the
actions of a past administration are now history. Trump and the GOP are in
charge so now they own all the criticism for their actions and inactions, lack
of transparency, disregard for ethical behavior, etc.We should not
allow Faux News staff of Hannity confuse us in these regards. Recently he
showed two video clips. One was Obama and one was Clinton. Both were clearly
speaking about the dangers of illegal immigration and the need for reform.
Hannity then tries to equate what they said to what Trump did with the EO travel
ban. They simply were not the same thing. Trump is restricting legal
immigration.Now we see them spinning this in much the same way.
Joan Watson - TWIN FALLS, IDFeb. 14, 2017 6:19 p.m." . . .
admiration for the man and for what he has done for this country far outweighs
any criticism leveled against him."Being a patriotic soldier and
then doing something not in keeping with the Military Code of Honor is not new.
There may have been a time when Michael Flynn was the dutiful soldier, filled
with the ideals of duty, honor, country. But in the last year, we have seen him
transform himself into a conspiracy-minded zealot. This does not
have the same resonance as Benedict Arnold, a proud and valiant servant of the
new nation, but high-level patriots can fall.Flynn would lead the
audience at Trump events in chants of "Lock her up!" as if Hillary
Clinton had been convicted of a crime. The audience loved it. They agreed with
the fiction that Hillary was already guilty regardless of due process.Flynn became Donald Trump's most devoted supporter, and would go on to
take the fall to protect Trump from any fallout from the scandal. This was after
the Acting Attorney General has notified Trump and others in the administration
about real problems concerning Flynn's conduct.
Joan Watson - TWIN FALLS, IDFeb. 14, 2017 6:19 p.m." . . .
it may have been along the lines of President Obama telling a Russian diplomate
after he thought the mike had been turned off, that "he would have more
leverage after the election". When President Obama talked to a
Russian diplomat, he was President of the United States. If Donald Trump had
been president and the telephone call had been made under his direction, there
would be no scandal. But Trump was not yet president and Flynn had no business
talking with the Russian ambassador. That's the point of this whole
mess.The "well, President Obama did the same thing" excuse
is not relevant because of his position. Flynn probably acted on Trump's
orders and now he's taking the fall. An aspect of this is that Trump is
much more concerned about the leak than he is with the unlawful conduct. But
then, that is how Trump operates. He thinks he can do anything and not be held
accountable. He is above the law and people should accept whatever he does.Stephen Miller said as much on the Sunday talk shows. Miller stated
Trump's power regarding policy matters "cannot be questioned".
Joan Watson - TWIN FALLS, IDFeb. 14, 2017 6:19 p.m.The only
thing that is certain is that Michael Flynn lied to the media. In TrumpWorld
that's not a big deal. Whether he lied to others in the Trump
administration is questionable since his activities with the Russians was
communicate by the DOJ to Donald Trump and his attorney over a month ago. It is
possible that Trump was aware of Flynn's phone calls. It is very possible
the Trump instructed Flynn to make the calls. And it is possible, concerning
Trump's response to the "news", that he was trying to cover up
Flynn's actions before the public became aware of his unlawful contact with
the Russians.None of this was unknown to Trump. He's the boss
and likes to micromanage everything that he is directly involved in, including
the Russia connection. Flynn just did as instructed and when the news got out,
he impaled himself with his sword. It is very possible that Trump instructed
Mike Pence, Reince Priebus, and Sean Spicer to go out and protect Flynn and the
administration. Also, it is possible that Flynn never spoke to the three
defenders, but it came from Trump to protect the administration.
"regardless of political party, we need to acknowledge that Trump and the
people that he surrounds himself with, are a threat to America's
security."One went on line to determine for oneself who and what
General Mike Flynn is.Warts and all. Ones admiration for the man and for
what he has done for this country far outweighs any criticism leveled against
him. He is not a perfect man or he would not have lied about having a
conversation with the Russian envoy. We do not know the content of that
conversation, but it may have been along the lines of President Obama telling a
Russian diplomate after he thought the mike had been turned off, that "he
would have more leverage after the election". I think that was the same
mind set the president had when he rebuked Romney for stating that Russia was a
threat to our country.
To GaryORe "Putin is against us, the people of the United States, BUT
he is FOR the Republicans."I disagree. Putin is completely anti
American. He was for Trump because of his intense hatred of Hillary but mostly
because of the havoc his election has created. With America currently a mess
politically, Putin has more freedom to accomplish his goals without much
IceCreamGhost - Sandy, UTFeb. 13, 2017 11:22 p.m."Where
was Jason Chaffetz in all of this? Isn't investigating this sort of thing
part of his job?"Not according to him. Jason Chaffetz is only
supposed to investigate Democrats. He is particularly careful not to offend the
boss. Could it be that Donald Trump had him sign a non-disclosure agreement and
promise not to make problems for the administration? Investigating Flynn would
mean investigating the Trump administration. It would open a can of worms that
would never get shut. Too much scandal, and it's only been three weeks.It's interesting that Trump hold a national security meeting at the
dinner table at his golf resort in Florida with members watching all around and
taking pictures of security documents and the guardian of the nuclear codes. But
Trump supporters are OK with this because he is being "strong" and doing
the things they want In particular, as long as Trump does the things he promised
(even though many of these same things will not stand muster with the
Constitution) they will accept anything and everything, no matter how crazy, he
does. It's called "loyalty".
It seems that Donald Trump is more concerned about the leaks that revealed
Michael Flynn's communications with the Russian ambassador than he is with
the fact that Flynn violated U.S. law. This is understandable since Trump
believes that he should be above the law and do as he wants. Also,
it appears that Trump was aware of Flynn's Russian conversation long before
it was revealed to the public this last week. Perhaps Trump instructed Flynn to
call the Russians and tell them not to worry, and when the story came out, he
told Mike Pence, Reince Priebus, and Sean Spicer to defend Flynn against his
accusers. Maybe Flynn didn't lie to anyone except the press, but he is the
loyal soldier and took a bullet for his boss.But the main thing to
come of this is that Trump didn't seem all that concerned about
Flynn's actions even when he pretended not to know about what Flynn did.
Instead his anger is directed against the person who told. Typical Trump.Secretiveness is characteristic of Trump activities. This way he can
control the message so not to damage his brand. Stupid errors get covered up and
no one is the wiser. So now we have more "fake news".
Furry1993 - Ogden, UTFeb. 14, 2017 4:04 a.m."Chaffetz --
do your job."Jason Chaffetz is more than happy to investigate
the opposing Party regardless of the reason. But ask him to investigate
Republican malfeasance, corruption, and incompetence and he suddenly can't
see anything to investigate. Remember, he got his instructions from Donald Trump
during his recent visit to the White House and knows which side butters his
bread.Instead of investigating Michael Flynn's unlawful
actions, Kellyanne Conway's turning the White House into the Home Shopping
Network, or Donald Trump's breaches of national security, violations of
U.S. law, conflicts of interest, and contempt for the Constitution and the
American people, we get him launching an investigation into the threat posed by
Sid the Science Kid according to Dana Milbank of the Washington Post. Yes, Chaffetz is investigating a cartoon character from the children's
programming division of PBS. He is up in arms about the Center of Disease
Control using a character from a children's show to raise awareness of the
Zika virus. Apparently Chaffetz needs waste more taxpayer money.
Reagan-Republicans should be throwing up with what Donald Trump has done to
Hey BlueMoonOden -RE: "Vladimir Putin is the only smart
politician on the planet and he is against us."Putin is against
us, the people of the United States, BUT he is FOR the Republicans.Why else do you think Putin fought to put Republicans in office here?Putin realizes the tremendous damage Republican leadership routinely wreaks
upon this nation, thereby weakening our nation and making Russia comparatively
We're now finding out the White House was informed several weeks ago about
Flynn's problem with talking about sanctions with the Russian
ambassador.Remember, it was just last week that Flynn again denied
the assertion - twice - on Wednesday, and then provided a response on Thursday
that "he couldn't be certain the topic didn't come up".Flynn has a problem. The White House apparently has a
communications or internal process problem.Someone should tell
President Trump that focusing on Arnold Schwarzenegger's ratings on the
Apprentice is not a priority.
This is all too funny. American politicians on both sides are complete
incompetents. Vladimir Putin is the only smart politician on the planet and he
is against us.
It's too bad that Idaho native and fellow University of Idaho alum, Mark
Felt, has passed away. We could use his expertise at bringing down autocratic
presidents who have little regard for the Constitution. Felt was the FBI
insider who helped Woodward and Bernstein peel back the onion of Watergate which
led to the resignation of Nixon. I would mention what his code name was except
that the DN would probably deny my comment. His legendary advice was always to
"follow the money."
MarxistHillary is guilty of several crimes beyond a shadow of a
doubt, 18 destroyed phones is proof of this.But somebody doing
something to favor one candidate or another is not evidence of that candidate
colliding with them to do so. Just like Mr. Duke supporting Trump, Trump
didn't ask for that endorsement, but still got it, and was still grilled
for it.Show me the emails, show me the phone conversations, where
Trump is asking for them to do this on his behalf.Those are the key
things you are missing, where as juxtaposed to Hillary, we actually have that
evidence. That server is in her basement, her charity with foreign money is in
her name, and run by her, and her family, those phones are still smashed. This
is credible evidence, so far nobody has linked Trump to the Russians, not to
mention the plethora of other things Russian hackers have supposedly been
involved in. (Brexit, the European rape crisis, as in Putin was egging refugees
on to rape.)Trump found out Flynn potentially had discussed things
he shouldn't have with the Russians, kept him close to monitor him, and
then got the evidence to get rid of him. How is that bad?
There are any number of ironies in the Flynn scandal. It should be a scandal, it
should be right up there with Watergate.But it will probably not
result any action by the Congress to review Russian ties with the Trump Campaign
or now the Administration.Flynn will be declared a 'lone
wolf', and is now tossed under the bus.Even more ironic than
what some may call treason, is the mention of Petraeus as a replacement...
Patreaus the CIA director who brought home classified material, and pled guilty
to some charges relating to such...The True Believer Trump supporter
will ignore such hypocrisy. But the people who should be thinking seriously
about their support of Trump are those who were on the fence, and believed
Trump's campaign promises.Trump is putting in to practice one
campaign promise, draining the swamp... just it's the alligators he has
@Rumoris "Let's see the evidence, nobody has been able to prove the
Russians hacked the elections yet, let alone that it actually extends to
Trump."By hacked we don't mean software was compromised.
But we have ample evidence the Russians conducted a media campaign to support
Trump. But Trump invited Russia to hack into Hillary's e-mails. I heard
that with my own two ears.
MarxistLet's see the evidence, nobody has been able to prove
the Russians hacked the elections yet, let alone that it actually extends to
Trump.Now I'm not defending what Flynn did, and he rightly lost
his position, due to the fact that their is evidence of his wrong doing, but you
people still don't have anything on Trump.
10ccHow do you know Trump knew all that? Where is your evidence that
he knew, and went ahead with them?Now I'd have loved for the
media to go after Obama like they have Trump, or Hillary, seeing as those people
had huge holes within their ideologies, but they didn't. They dropped their
ethics for party, the entirety of the media machine. We could see that with the
leaks out of the DNC.Don't be fooled, Trump is still the better
option for our last election, and as long as he gets rid of people who make
egregious mistakes like this, even himself if he is corrupted, I'll still
respect the man.Not a single person who has ever held the
presidency, hasn't done some dubious things, or had some shady
associations. Don't kid yourself on that.
@Creeper 51 - in each of the cases of Manafort, Page and now Flynn, it was only
after the media uncovered problems that these characters left the Trump Campaign
/ Administration.One would think Trump would have a high level
person who is vetting these people.You are right, though, nothing
we've seen yet directly implicates Trump.Seeing his tax returns
would go a long way toward vindicating him. (Hopefully this is no longer being
seen as a campaign issue.)Does he have business dealings with
Russia? Does he have loans with Russian banks? Would those entanglements pose
a conflict of interest?Many questions still left to be
answered...(Also, if you can't/don't respond, it's
understood - 4 post limit.)
One thing that liberals haven't thought of: Maybe Republicans
actually *want* to have our country run by Putin. He is efficient,
as dictators usually are.We've always assumed that Republicans
love their country, but I am starting to think that they actually like the Putin
way of doing things better.Russian doesn't suffer any dissension from
those horrible liberal people.
@Meter "If we aren't going to jail Hillary over her 18 destroyed cell
phones, 30,000 missing emails, or her comments about overthrowing Ghadaffi, then
an improper conversation on the phone won't be an offense worthy of jail
time."This is just the outer layer of the onion. We have
reasons to suspect the Trump campaign coordinated its activities with the
Russians and Putin. This is impeachable, and don't be surprised if it ends
up there. The only hope for Trump is his ability to quash all inquiries. It
looks like he's going to fail, God willing.
Jason Chaffetz of your state has wasted taxpayer money on silliness and now
there is a real national crisis where Russia tipped the election to this man of
questionable integrity, stability and ability in the White House. Jason Chaffetz
complains about people disagreeing with him and about them telling him so to his
face. He falsely accuses them of being paid. He is not listening to America, and
the good people of normally patriotic and God-fearing Utah have helped to lead
our nation to destruction, yes destruction, because you feared Planned
Parenthood and gay marriage more than you feared Russian intrusion and a
unstable government. Jason Chaffetz, your could learn from your fellow
Republicans of an era when extremist right-wing views were not the norm. Howard
Baker didn't act like that during Watergate.
For all its realpolitick amorality, the intelligence community is emerging from
the shadows as an unexpected white knight for America.Russian ties
with the Trump campaign and administration have been extensively reported,
beginning well before the election. Ordinarily, reports of foreign
infiltration and influence over the Executive Branch would trigger immediate
bipartisan House and Senate investigations, with no consideration for the party
that holds the White House.But this is not your father's GOP.
Most 2017-era Republicans are comfortable in gerrymandered districts
and/or beholden to donors who see tactical advantage in a go-along-to-get-along
strategy in dealing with Trump.In short, the interests of the GOP
are not necessarily aligned with America's interests, at least not yet.Faced with this perfect storm of foreign infiltration and Congrssional
abdication, the intelligence community is stepping up. As voters of
all stripes learn what their representatives have willfully ignored, the
GOP's unified front in enabling Trump will begin to crack, and eventually
breach completely, washing away the last Trump holdouts.
This is precisely why a lot of people voted for Trump. With Trump,
Democrats, the press, and even a few Washington establishment Republicans are
watching him like a hawk. I'm a Trump voter that is pretty satisfied so
FtYou are right this has nothing to do with Hillary, except she is
the only other candidate that would have been elected. We either for Trump, or
Hillary would you rather have the bought, and paid for Qatari candidate, or the
Russian one? Using your argument by the way, I still haven't seen any
credible evidence that Trump has anything to do with Russia, but Hillary was
financed by Qatar, and Saudi Arabia.We still unverified yet to see
how Russia was financing Trump.
It's interesting how Republicans, including your Senator Hatch, are
scrambling to quash any investigations into the matter that might expose the
treachery and sedition of other top administration officials.This is
what I'm wondering:Is it an act of sedition to protect others
who are in fact guilty of sedition?Any ideas?
Just watched Good Morning America. President Trump asked them to let Kellyanne
Conway go on the air, so they did. George Stephanopoulos asked time and time
again why, when, before inauguration, Trump was briefed that Flynn was
vulnerable to blackmail, he still appointed him. She refused to answer the
question, or any questions. This administration will never admit
wrongdoing. Of more concern, however, is that without President Trump's tax
returns we will never know how vulnerable our president is to blackmail. Trump said he'd make America safe again:-No tax returns. -Flynn. -Conducting sensitive government business on the patio at
Mar-a-Lago. -Photos of the guy carrying the nuclear football posing with a
club member, exposing his identity. How does this behavior make us
Let me guess - this is just another character assassination by the main stream
One VoteLet's prove that Russia hacked the elections shall we?
Any proof of that actually happening? When the re-count happened it was Hillary
that lost votes, not Trump. Let's see the proof for them hacking the
election, I wouldn't care if you said the Russians hacked the DNC, but that
hacked exposed serious corruption within the DNC, so I'm not even upset
with that. Hillary's campaign manager should have been able to see a
phishing scam by the way.
To our typical right wing posters and supporters of Comrade Trump. This has
nothing to do with Hillary. Let's stay focused on what Trump knew and
when, and why has he continuously defended Putin and Russia? We have a
Republican Congress unwilling to investigate these dealings and they very well
may be putting our country in grave danger. If they won't do their job we
need to remove them from office in 2018.
Valerie Jarrett knew in November 2008 that Rod Blagojevich was trying to sell
the senate seat...and she didn't report it.She went on to serve
eight years as Obama's top advisor.And that's just one
case we know about.
Intentionally communicating with a sanctioned foreign power to remove sanctions
before election is a clear violation of law. This is magnified by the Russian
hacking of the election to favor Donald. This is a major situation and trump
supporters did to chant this at future rowdy rallies. There will be further
investigations as to why the administration has such a vested interest in the
Russian connection. The present Administration is a historic disaster. Sad.
Lying by those in our government even in the highest echelon of office is not
new.Which one of our presidents have not lied at times to the American
public? One is glad that Flynn has resigned - just wish he had been truthfull
and forthright when he was confronted with the facts of his conversation
between himself and a Russian envoy. Lying is always a flaw in ones character.
10CcThat doesn't look like corruption to me, that looks like
Trump is distancing himself from the corruption, which is what every politician
should do.So how is it a bad thing that he got rid of people who had
conflicts of interest?Only a person who wants to see another fail,
looks at it like you do, now if you can actually pin corruption to Trump
himself, then you have an argument against him. Kind of like the unprotected
server with Hillary's fingerprints all over it, or her charity with Qatari
money in it.
Trump is a well known micro manager. He is known to obsess over the smallest of
details.It is doubtful that Trump did not know what Flynn was up to.
To believe Trump was ignorant begs and pleads disbelief.So, in the
words of a John A Stormer, himself an evangelical conservative precursor to
today's convervative movement, "None Dare Call it Treason".
Conservatives, you metaphorically live by the sword, and metaphorically you will
die by the sword.
patriot - Cedar Hills, UT"ya got to be smarter than this --
sorry general"Love these comments. By smarter I guess you mean
use methods of communication that our NSA and other intelligence agencies cannot
listen in on? Why - so they can plot against our great nation and our
allies?Not Patriotic. Sad.
We asked Chaffetz to look this over, and he overlooked it.
cougar engineer - Alpine, UT"How can the commenters speak out so
positively, and self-rightiously to condemn , without having heard the whole
story."Well since this is the White House of "Alternative
Facts" I wonder if we will ever know the whole story.Chaffetz is
in a position to help us know the whole story. He should start hearings and
investigate.Meanwhile we have Treasury Secretary that was just
confirmed. He admittedly "forgot" to disclose that he had 100 Million
dollars in an offshore account.It looks like some GOP members are
finally going to stand against the confirmation of the Labor Secretary's
nomination. Turns out he hired illegal aliens.The swamp is not
being drained, it is being filled with those who stand to profit from
"deals" that are bad for the average American citizen, but great for a
Trump cabinet member or a member of his family.
UtahgirlchronicleTrump thus far has not voiced any support of
lessening of sanctions against Russia.A phone call where things are
discussed that shouldn't have been is completely different, than the
conspiracy you've all been touting since before the election, with still no
proof of it.I'd be willing to bet most of the liberals
couldn't point to Saudi Arabia, or Qatar on a map, where Hillary was
receiving money into the now defunct portion of her charity after the
election.Now Flynn has been dealt with, what more do you really
want, without evidence?
Mr. One voteIf we aren't going to jail Hillary over her 18
destroyed cell phones, 30,000 missing emails, or her comments about overthrowing
Ghadaffi, then an improper conversation on the phone won't be an offense
worthy of jail time.Do you people even listen to yourselves?
Flynn gets his marching orders from the guy at the top.What did
Trump know and when did he know it. Did Trump direct Flynn to break the law?We Americans deserve an answer.
We can fix mistakes...but don't lie to me. Obama would have
given him a raise.
@patriot. "ya got to be smarter than this -- sorry general"This translation does not convey the gutteral lyricism and saucy idiom from
the orginal Russsian, but I think you captured the gist of it.Next
time we see Flynn may be in the background of a photo of Trump and Chaffetz at
dining at Mar a Lago, posted to Facebook with a caption like "We the people
of Utah’s 3rd Congressional Distric, keepin it real whIle watching history
happen! Rep. Chaffetz gets to the bottom of things with President Trump.
Whooo wooo!"Flynn will be the guy dressed like a waiter, with
one hand removing the empty bowl that had been heaped with Imperial Ossetra
caviar, while the other hand deftly turns the centerpiece so the red gerbera
daisy points towards Trump.
One has to wonder how many more anti Trump, pro American posts there would
already be on this article if the DNews did not limit the voices of its readers.
This makes the third Trump insider who has left over too-cozy-of-relations with
Russia:- early Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, who helped
usher through changes at the GOP convention to ease sanctions on Russia, before
being whisked off the stage as multi-million dollar payments from Russian
sources were revealed for his work supporting the Russian leaning former
president of Ukraine.- Trump campaign foreign policy advisor Carter
Page, who was reported by Yahoo News to have met with the president of Russian
state oil company Rosneft last July to discuss getting the sanctions lifted.
(These were the sanctions in place before the 2016 election sanctions).- Now Mike Flynn, who went to Russia in December 2015 to get an award from the
Russian government TV network, sitting at the same table as Vladimir Putin.We'll see where things go from here, but I think people are
starting to understand while President Trump hasn't criticized Vladimir
He violated the law. Jail him. Also there should be an investigation into
whether classified documents were bought to the table at The Trumps'
Country Club to entertain the guests.
Well that stinks, the Trump administration needs to be very careful when
discussing things over the phone with diplomats of other countries.I
am glad that Trump is still in opposition to lifting the sanctions against
Russia, and he should continue to have the restrictions in place till a later
date when terms can be discussed with them.Put this past your
administration, and tighten up your security protocols please.
The AP reports that Russian lawmakers have " mounted a fierce defense of
Flynn." His involvement with the Russian hierarchy and the president's
refusal to condemn Putin and his government in any way, clearly indicate the
necessity for Chaffetz and other congressional leaders to demand an in depth
investigation into these matters. Since Trump refuses to release his tax
returns, perhaps the investigation should begin there.
Are the wheels already coming off?
This, and so much more to come.So much Jason Chaffetz and his
"...contradictions between the public depictions of the calls and what
intelligence officials knew to be true based on recordings of the conversations,
which were picked up as part of routine monitoring of foreign officials
communications in the U.S."Routine monitoring. Surely the
former DIA Director would know about this, right? Yet he proceeded anyway AND
lied about it. He also placed others in the position of lying for him.Is this hubris? Incompetence? Is it realistic to believe that Trump
didn't know he was going to have these conversations on this topic? Are we
to believe that the egotistical Trump would be okay with even a trusted adviser
usurping his authority like this? Why did the "resignation" happen only
when the truth became public fare? Would Flynn still be ensconced if it
hadn't?I think - I fervently hope - there's more to come.
I'm also grateful for this sign that at least some portions of our
government are working as they're meant to.
Flynn is the first domino to fall. click... click... click... Spicer is next...
click... click... click..
A most unfortunate series of events....
Logic says that Flynn wouldn't have talked with the Russians, and given
assurances to the Russians of so serious a nature, without 45 first approving.
It appears to me that Flynn is taking the blame for 45. It's really time
to start investigating 45. Chaffetz -- do your job.
Draining the swamp! Not if but when will the impeachment proceedings begin?
Lying to the president?It seems that presidential administrations
prefer to wait and see what heat develops before taking action. Since there was
always a transcript of the incident, one might assume that Donald Trump may have
known about Flynn's conversation with the Russian ambassador. It was
certainly spoken about during the later days of the presidential transition. The
Department of Justice informed the Trump administration about possible problems
early on.Trump values loyalty, and Flynn was loyal. This is all
conjecture, but maybe Flynn was instructed to keep quiet and wait to see if the
Trump administration could dodge the bullet it hoped would not come. With the
litany of executive orders and tweets, perhaps the story would get lost in the
confusion. Sneak it through, so to speak.Whether Flynn lied to Sean
Spicer, Reince Priebus and Mike Pence is questionable since so much of what this
administration says is questionable. That's the problem with lies. If a
person is a congenital liar like Trump, when do you decide to believe them?As of now, there needs to be an investigation (Jason Chaffetz??) to see
if lies were really told.
I see that the usual Trump supporters are strangely quiet. How will you defend
Trump's lack of critical thinking and hiring processes concerning NATIONAL
SECURITY? Or will you rationalize that Flynn was acting as a lone wolf?
The FBI reported on their transcript of the actual Flynn phone call intercepts
that "there was nothing illicit or improper", in the Washington Post on
January 23, 2016. All the hubbub about the horrible nature is a figment of the
Media, blown out of proportion. Mr Flynn does admit that he was in error in not
reporting completely to vice president elect Pence prior to the inauguration,
causing Pence to report innacurately to the public. I Think Trump should have
told his opposition to "pound sand" and expressed his loyalty to the man
who had been so loyal to him in the past.
How can the commenters speak out so positively, and self-rightiously to condemn
, without having heard the whole story. I wonder if we will ever hear the whole
truth. When and if we do, then they can feel free to cast blame wherever it
belongs. All we know at this point in time, is that Flynn had several
conversations with the Russian ambassador, the vice president said he was told
that there was no discussion of sanctions, and that "leaked" copies of
the conversations were reported to have been revealed to the press, and that
Flynn has now resigned. Everything else is pure conjecture.
This type of behavior, chaos, mismanagement, and foolishness should come as no
surprise, even to Trump supporters. Trump is damaging our country and will
continue to do so. We missed a major opportunity to have a great president 4
years ago when Romney was defeated. But Republicans failed in 20012 to support
a great man. Now Republicans line up behind Trump? What is happening to the
party of great leaders like Lincoln and Reagan?
Where was Jason Chaffetz in all of this? Isn't investigating this sort of
thing part of his job?
So, was this treasonous? What classified information did he give to Putin? What
dirt does Putin have on trump? It's sounding more and more like the CNN
report is accurate. How much longer until the video comes out?
As a general, Flynn always served his commander-in-chief. He wasn't doing
things rogue. Putin desperately wanted those sanctions lifted. The day after
Flynn's phone call Trump tweeted what a smart man Putin was. Anyone can do
the math.We need to see Trump's taxes to see how much debt he
has to Russia. Flynn needs to be subpoenaed before Congress to get his story on
the record. Why don't Democrats in Congress say "If you don't
release your taxes by June 1, 2017, we'll start impeachment hearings and
we'll get a few Republicans to join us"?Most Republicans in
Congress appeared to favor the sanctions. They need to grow a spine, stop
pandering to voters who couldn't find Russia on a map, and conduct a
bi-partisan investigation to seek facts, similar to how Republicans and
Democrats worked together when Watergate was going down.
Two questions come to mind: What did Trump know and when did he know it?
Isn't this the guy who led the "lock her up, lock her up, lock her
up" chant at the Republican convention? Well, lock him up, lock
him up, lock him up!
How's that drain the swamp thingie workin out for ya? We are only 3 weeks
in and Donald is already having massive scandals!
One down.Sean Spicer may be next. But not Kellyanne
Conway. She has done some pretty stupid stuff for Donald Trump, including
selling her soul. But Trump appreciates her loyalty, and she will continue
carrying water until she drops. It may be difficult considering the upcoming
ethics investigation. However, that may be of no consequence since Trump is not
concerned with ethics and conflicts-of-interest.Understandably
Reince Priebus may come under more heat as he fights with the daring duo, Steve
Bannon and Stephen Miller. Also, more Breibart people are joining the Trump
administration as the white nationalists burrow deeper into the federal
government. Miller's recent comment that Trump's authority and
national security decisions "will not be questioned."This is
a policy adviser that Trump likes. He prefers those who will stand up for him as
he apparently moves to establish a more authoritarian government. Miller even
went to the extreme validation of his boss by stating unequivocally that there
was massive voter fraud as Trump believes.So well continue trying to
guess who will go next, but keep your eye on Spicer. The word is out on him.
The man was a traitor and liar. Not the only one in this administration, just
the first one exposed. There will be others, we know this because of
conflicts of interest, ethical issues, and foreign entanglements that have been
widely discussed but were brazenly denied by the Trump White House and blatantly
ignored by the Senate. Three weeks in.Many thanks to the
patriotic Americans who exposed this to sunlight and kept it in the light. We must continue.
Even Flynn's resignation letter is raising concerns. Flynn explains how he
"plans to spend more time with my family" but he added "in
Minsk" to that standard face-saving phrase. Trump's other
advisors figured it was a town in North Dakota.
ya got to be smarter than this -- sorry general
So, Mr. Chaffetz. What was that about your oversight committee waiting for
indications of misconduct rather than going on fishing expeditions?What sort of indications do we have to wait for, exactly?
Well finally, an admission of impropriety out of the Trump Administration.
There will be more.
Perhaps, prayers have been answered, and the Trump presidency will collapse.One at a time, day after day, investigation after investigation..........
Lock HIM up?He lied to the VP.He lied to the iPOTUS.He lied to the American people.During the campaign the
re-Publicans chanted Lock HER up...For lying.The re-Publicans will chant...Lock HIM up...Right?
The Trump presidency is like a dream...of a12-year-old boy in
1983...who before bed, reads a chapter from the latest Tom Clancy
thriller...before skimming this month's issue of Mad
Magazine...while eating Pop Rocks candy...washed down
This Trump administration is pure chaos. If acting Attorney General Sally Yates
warned Trump about Flynn possibly opening himself up to blackmail, and she was
then fired, that means Trump put politics above country. Trump sat on that news
because Flynn was his buddy. Disgraceful.
Yep. But since Trump knows better than "the Generals" and the CIA, he
ignored them. People, regardless of politically party, we need to acknowledge
that Trump and the people that he surrounds himself with, are a threat to