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  • JWL Seattle, WA
    Feb. 15, 2017 8:11 p.m.

    So one of Trump's many nightmare nominees, Flynn, is gone. But now we learn that at least 4 Trump campaign aides may have been colluding with the Russians during the election. Trump surely must have known. We need a full independent investigation of these ties to the Russians, including a full review of Trump’s taxes & finances and any Russian entanglements. It’s the patriotic duty of Congressional Republicans to call for this investigation. This isn't a partisan issue. Neither Republicans nor Democrats want a foreign power, particularly Russia, interfering in our elections. Neither wants our President beholden to a foreign power, particularly Russia.

  • UtahTroutStalker Draper, UT
    Feb. 15, 2017 4:58 p.m.

    @Joan Watson

    " We do not know the content of that conversation, but it may have been along the lines of President Obama telling a Russian diplomate after he thought the mike had been turned off, that "he would have more leverage after the election"."

    Joan, unfortunately we are starting to see more of this sort of logical fallacy being used to defend the Trump administration. Faux News - Particularly Sean Hannity is the king of this.

    One simply cannot compare apples to oranges. Also, the actions of a past administration are now history. Trump and the GOP are in charge so now they own all the criticism for their actions and inactions, lack of transparency, disregard for ethical behavior, etc.

    We should not allow Faux News staff of Hannity confuse us in these regards. Recently he showed two video clips. One was Obama and one was Clinton. Both were clearly speaking about the dangers of illegal immigration and the need for reform. Hannity then tries to equate what they said to what Trump did with the EO travel ban. They simply were not the same thing. Trump is restricting legal immigration.

    Now we see them spinning this in much the same way.

  • Janet Pete Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:57 p.m.

    Joan Watson - TWIN FALLS, ID
    Feb. 14, 2017 6:19 p.m.

    " . . . admiration for the man and for what he has done for this country far outweighs any criticism leveled against him."

    Being a patriotic soldier and then doing something not in keeping with the Military Code of Honor is not new. There may have been a time when Michael Flynn was the dutiful soldier, filled with the ideals of duty, honor, country. But in the last year, we have seen him transform himself into a conspiracy-minded zealot.

    This does not have the same resonance as Benedict Arnold, a proud and valiant servant of the new nation, but high-level patriots can fall.

    Flynn would lead the audience at Trump events in chants of "Lock her up!" as if Hillary Clinton had been convicted of a crime. The audience loved it. They agreed with the fiction that Hillary was already guilty regardless of due process.

    Flynn became Donald Trump's most devoted supporter, and would go on to take the fall to protect Trump from any fallout from the scandal. This was after the Acting Attorney General has notified Trump and others in the administration about real problems concerning Flynn's conduct.

  • Nichiro-san Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:33 p.m.

    Joan Watson - TWIN FALLS, ID
    Feb. 14, 2017 6:19 p.m.

    " . . . it may have been along the lines of President Obama telling a Russian diplomate after he thought the mike had been turned off, that "he would have more leverage after the election".

    When President Obama talked to a Russian diplomat, he was President of the United States. If Donald Trump had been president and the telephone call had been made under his direction, there would be no scandal. But Trump was not yet president and Flynn had no business talking with the Russian ambassador. That's the point of this whole mess.

    The "well, President Obama did the same thing" excuse is not relevant because of his position. Flynn probably acted on Trump's orders and now he's taking the fall. An aspect of this is that Trump is much more concerned about the leak than he is with the unlawful conduct. But then, that is how Trump operates. He thinks he can do anything and not be held accountable. He is above the law and people should accept whatever he does.

    Stephen Miller said as much on the Sunday talk shows. Miller stated Trump's power regarding policy matters "cannot be questioned".

  • Mad Hatter Provo, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:10 p.m.

    Joan Watson - TWIN FALLS, ID
    Feb. 14, 2017 6:19 p.m.

    The only thing that is certain is that Michael Flynn lied to the media. In TrumpWorld that's not a big deal. Whether he lied to others in the Trump administration is questionable since his activities with the Russians was communicate by the DOJ to Donald Trump and his attorney over a month ago. It is possible that Trump was aware of Flynn's phone calls. It is very possible the Trump instructed Flynn to make the calls. And it is possible, concerning Trump's response to the "news", that he was trying to cover up Flynn's actions before the public became aware of his unlawful contact with the Russians.

    None of this was unknown to Trump. He's the boss and likes to micromanage everything that he is directly involved in, including the Russia connection. Flynn just did as instructed and when the news got out, he impaled himself with his sword. It is very possible that Trump instructed Mike Pence, Reince Priebus, and Sean Spicer to go out and protect Flynn and the administration. Also, it is possible that Flynn never spoke to the three defenders, but it came from Trump to protect the administration.

  • Joan Watson TWIN FALLS, ID
    Feb. 14, 2017 6:19 p.m.

    "regardless of political party, we need to acknowledge that Trump and the people that he surrounds himself with, are a threat to America's security."

    One went on line to determine for oneself who and what General Mike Flynn is.
    Warts and all. Ones admiration for the man and for what he has done for this country far outweighs any criticism leveled against him. He is not a perfect man or he would not have lied about having a conversation with the Russian envoy. We do not know the content of that conversation, but it may have been along the lines of President Obama telling a Russian diplomate after he thought the mike had been turned off, that "he would have more leverage after the election". I think that was the same mind set the president had when he rebuked Romney for stating that Russia was a threat to our country.

  • BlueMoonOden Wilmette, IL
    Feb. 14, 2017 2:55 p.m.

    To GaryO
    Re "Putin is against us, the people of the United States, BUT he is FOR the Republicans."

    I disagree. Putin is completely anti American. He was for Trump because of his intense hatred of Hillary but mostly because of the havoc his election has created. With America currently a mess politically, Putin has more freedom to accomplish his goals without much American interference.

  • Cheshire Cat Bronx, NY
    Feb. 14, 2017 1:20 p.m.

    IceCreamGhost - Sandy, UT
    Feb. 13, 2017 11:22 p.m.

    "Where was Jason Chaffetz in all of this? Isn't investigating this sort of thing part of his job?"

    Not according to him. Jason Chaffetz is only supposed to investigate Democrats. He is particularly careful not to offend the boss. Could it be that Donald Trump had him sign a non-disclosure agreement and promise not to make problems for the administration? Investigating Flynn would mean investigating the Trump administration. It would open a can of worms that would never get shut. Too much scandal, and it's only been three weeks.

    It's interesting that Trump hold a national security meeting at the dinner table at his golf resort in Florida with members watching all around and taking pictures of security documents and the guardian of the nuclear codes. But Trump supporters are OK with this because he is being "strong" and doing the things they want In particular, as long as Trump does the things he promised (even though many of these same things will not stand muster with the Constitution) they will accept anything and everything, no matter how crazy, he does. It's called "loyalty".

  • Queen of Hearts Phoenix, AZ
    Feb. 14, 2017 1:10 p.m.

    It seems that Donald Trump is more concerned about the leaks that revealed Michael Flynn's communications with the Russian ambassador than he is with the fact that Flynn violated U.S. law. This is understandable since Trump believes that he should be above the law and do as he wants.

    Also, it appears that Trump was aware of Flynn's Russian conversation long before it was revealed to the public this last week. Perhaps Trump instructed Flynn to call the Russians and tell them not to worry, and when the story came out, he told Mike Pence, Reince Priebus, and Sean Spicer to defend Flynn against his accusers. Maybe Flynn didn't lie to anyone except the press, but he is the loyal soldier and took a bullet for his boss.

    But the main thing to come of this is that Trump didn't seem all that concerned about Flynn's actions even when he pretended not to know about what Flynn did. Instead his anger is directed against the person who told. Typical Trump.

    Secretiveness is characteristic of Trump activities. This way he can control the message so not to damage his brand. Stupid errors get covered up and no one is the wiser. So now we have more "fake news".

  • Jim Chee Ka'anapali, HI
    Feb. 14, 2017 12:59 p.m.

    Furry1993 - Ogden, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 4:04 a.m.

    "Chaffetz -- do your job."

    Jason Chaffetz is more than happy to investigate the opposing Party regardless of the reason. But ask him to investigate Republican malfeasance, corruption, and incompetence and he suddenly can't see anything to investigate. Remember, he got his instructions from Donald Trump during his recent visit to the White House and knows which side butters his bread.

    Instead of investigating Michael Flynn's unlawful actions, Kellyanne Conway's turning the White House into the Home Shopping Network, or Donald Trump's breaches of national security, violations of U.S. law, conflicts of interest, and contempt for the Constitution and the American people, we get him launching an investigation into the threat posed by Sid the Science Kid according to Dana Milbank of the Washington Post.

    Yes, Chaffetz is investigating a cartoon character from the children's programming division of PBS. He is up in arms about the Center of Disease Control using a character from a children's show to raise awareness of the Zika virus. Apparently Chaffetz needs waste more taxpayer money.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    Feb. 14, 2017 12:31 p.m.

    Reagan-Republicans should be throwing up with what Donald Trump has done to their party...

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    Feb. 14, 2017 12:02 p.m.

    Hey BlueMoonOden -

    RE: "Vladimir Putin is the only smart politician on the planet and he is against us."

    Putin is against us, the people of the United States, BUT he is FOR the Republicans.

    Why else do you think Putin fought to put Republicans in office here?

    Putin realizes the tremendous damage Republican leadership routinely wreaks upon this nation, thereby weakening our nation and making Russia comparatively stronger.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 11:26 a.m.

    We're now finding out the White House was informed several weeks ago about Flynn's problem with talking about sanctions with the Russian ambassador.

    Remember, it was just last week that Flynn again denied the assertion - twice - on Wednesday, and then provided a response on Thursday that "he couldn't be certain the topic didn't come up".

    Flynn has a problem.

    The White House apparently has a communications or internal process problem.

    Someone should tell President Trump that focusing on Arnold Schwarzenegger's ratings on the Apprentice is not a priority.

  • BlueMoonOden Wilmette, IL
    Feb. 14, 2017 11:00 a.m.

    This is all too funny. American politicians on both sides are complete incompetents. Vladimir Putin is the only smart politician on the planet and he is against us.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    Feb. 14, 2017 10:57 a.m.

    It's too bad that Idaho native and fellow University of Idaho alum, Mark Felt, has passed away. We could use his expertise at bringing down autocratic presidents who have little regard for the Constitution. Felt was the FBI insider who helped Woodward and Bernstein peel back the onion of Watergate which led to the resignation of Nixon. I would mention what his code name was except that the DN would probably deny my comment. His legendary advice was always to "follow the money."

  • Rumoris Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 10:55 a.m.

    Marxist

    Hillary is guilty of several crimes beyond a shadow of a doubt, 18 destroyed phones is proof of this.

    But somebody doing something to favor one candidate or another is not evidence of that candidate colliding with them to do so. Just like Mr. Duke supporting Trump, Trump didn't ask for that endorsement, but still got it, and was still grilled for it.

    Show me the emails, show me the phone conversations, where Trump is asking for them to do this on his behalf.

    Those are the key things you are missing, where as juxtaposed to Hillary, we actually have that evidence. That server is in her basement, her charity with foreign money is in her name, and run by her, and her family, those phones are still smashed. This is credible evidence, so far nobody has linked Trump to the Russians, not to mention the plethora of other things Russian hackers have supposedly been involved in. (Brexit, the European rape crisis, as in Putin was egging refugees on to rape.)

    Trump found out Flynn potentially had discussed things he shouldn't have with the Russians, kept him close to monitor him, and then got the evidence to get rid of him. How is that bad?

  • jeclar2006 Oceanside, CA
    Feb. 14, 2017 10:38 a.m.

    There are any number of ironies in the Flynn scandal. It should be a scandal, it should be right up there with Watergate.

    But it will probably not result any action by the Congress to review Russian ties with the Trump Campaign or now the Administration.

    Flynn will be declared a 'lone wolf', and is now tossed under the bus.

    Even more ironic than what some may call treason, is the mention of Petraeus as a replacement... Patreaus the CIA director who brought home classified material, and pled guilty to some charges relating to such...

    The True Believer Trump supporter will ignore such hypocrisy. But the people who should be thinking seriously about their support of Trump are those who were on the fence, and believed Trump's campaign promises.

    Trump is putting in to practice one campaign promise, draining the swamp... just it's the alligators he has brought in.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 10:22 a.m.

    @Rumoris "Let's see the evidence, nobody has been able to prove the Russians hacked the elections yet, let alone that it actually extends to Trump."

    By hacked we don't mean software was compromised. But we have ample evidence the Russians conducted a media campaign to support Trump. But Trump invited Russia to hack into Hillary's e-mails. I heard that with my own two ears.

  • Rumoris Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 10:09 a.m.

    Marxist

    Let's see the evidence, nobody has been able to prove the Russians hacked the elections yet, let alone that it actually extends to Trump.

    Now I'm not defending what Flynn did, and he rightly lost his position, due to the fact that their is evidence of his wrong doing, but you people still don't have anything on Trump.

  • Creeper51 Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 10:04 a.m.

    10cc

    How do you know Trump knew all that? Where is your evidence that he knew, and went ahead with them?

    Now I'd have loved for the media to go after Obama like they have Trump, or Hillary, seeing as those people had huge holes within their ideologies, but they didn't. They dropped their ethics for party, the entirety of the media machine. We could see that with the leaks out of the DNC.

    Don't be fooled, Trump is still the better option for our last election, and as long as he gets rid of people who make egregious mistakes like this, even himself if he is corrupted, I'll still respect the man.

    Not a single person who has ever held the presidency, hasn't done some dubious things, or had some shady associations. Don't kid yourself on that.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 9:42 a.m.

    @Creeper 51 - in each of the cases of Manafort, Page and now Flynn, it was only after the media uncovered problems that these characters left the Trump Campaign / Administration.

    One would think Trump would have a high level person who is vetting these people.

    You are right, though, nothing we've seen yet directly implicates Trump.

    Seeing his tax returns would go a long way toward vindicating him. (Hopefully this is no longer being seen as a campaign issue.)

    Does he have business dealings with Russia? Does he have loans with Russian banks? Would those entanglements pose a conflict of interest?

    Many questions still left to be answered...

    (Also, if you can't/don't respond, it's understood - 4 post limit.)

  • Ralph Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 9:26 a.m.

    One thing that liberals haven't thought of:
    Maybe Republicans actually *want* to have our country run by Putin.

    He is efficient, as dictators usually are.

    We've always assumed that Republicans love their country, but I am starting to think that they actually like the Putin way of doing things better.
    Russian doesn't suffer any dissension from those horrible liberal people.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 9:25 a.m.

    @Meter "If we aren't going to jail Hillary over her 18 destroyed cell phones, 30,000 missing emails, or her comments about overthrowing Ghadaffi, then an improper conversation on the phone won't be an offense worthy of jail time."

    This is just the outer layer of the onion. We have reasons to suspect the Trump campaign coordinated its activities with the Russians and Putin. This is impeachable, and don't be surprised if it ends up there. The only hope for Trump is his ability to quash all inquiries. It looks like he's going to fail, God willing.

  • Wadyaknow Baltimore, MD
    Feb. 14, 2017 9:22 a.m.

    Jason Chaffetz of your state has wasted taxpayer money on silliness and now there is a real national crisis where Russia tipped the election to this man of questionable integrity, stability and ability in the White House. Jason Chaffetz complains about people disagreeing with him and about them telling him so to his face. He falsely accuses them of being paid. He is not listening to America, and the good people of normally patriotic and God-fearing Utah have helped to lead our nation to destruction, yes destruction, because you feared Planned Parenthood and gay marriage more than you feared Russian intrusion and a unstable government. Jason Chaffetz, your could learn from your fellow Republicans of an era when extremist right-wing views were not the norm. Howard Baker didn't act like that during Watergate.

  • Daedalus, Stephen ARVADA, CO
    Feb. 14, 2017 9:16 a.m.

    For all its realpolitick amorality, the intelligence community is emerging from the shadows as an unexpected white knight for America.

    Russian ties with the Trump campaign and administration have been extensively reported, beginning well before the election.

    Ordinarily, reports of foreign infiltration and influence over the Executive Branch would trigger immediate bipartisan House and Senate investigations, with no consideration for the party that holds the White House.

    But this is not your father's GOP.

    Most 2017-era Republicans are comfortable in gerrymandered districts and/or beholden to donors who see tactical advantage in a go-along-to-get-along strategy in dealing with Trump.

    In short, the interests of the GOP are not necessarily aligned with America's interests, at least not yet.

    Faced with this perfect storm of foreign infiltration and Congrssional abdication, the intelligence community is stepping up.

    As voters of all stripes learn what their representatives have willfully ignored, the GOP's unified front in enabling Trump will begin to crack, and eventually breach completely, washing away the last Trump holdouts.

  • Vermonter Plymouth, MI
    Feb. 14, 2017 9:09 a.m.

    This is precisely why a lot of people voted for Trump.

    With Trump, Democrats, the press, and even a few Washington establishment Republicans are watching him like a hawk. I'm a Trump voter that is pretty satisfied so far.

  • Creeper51 Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 9:07 a.m.

    Ft

    You are right this has nothing to do with Hillary, except she is the only other candidate that would have been elected. We either for Trump, or Hillary would you rather have the bought, and paid for Qatari candidate, or the Russian one? Using your argument by the way, I still haven't seen any credible evidence that Trump has anything to do with Russia, but Hillary was financed by Qatar, and Saudi Arabia.

    We still unverified yet to see how Russia was financing Trump.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:59 a.m.

    It's interesting how Republicans, including your Senator Hatch, are scrambling to quash any investigations into the matter that might expose the treachery and sedition of other top administration officials.

    This is what I'm wondering:

    Is it an act of sedition to protect others who are in fact guilty of sedition?

    Any ideas?

  • JBs Logan, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:39 a.m.

    Just watched Good Morning America. President Trump asked them to let Kellyanne Conway go on the air, so they did. George Stephanopoulos asked time and time again why, when, before inauguration, Trump was briefed that Flynn was vulnerable to blackmail, he still appointed him. She refused to answer the question, or any questions.

    This administration will never admit wrongdoing. Of more concern, however, is that without President Trump's tax returns we will never know how vulnerable our president is to blackmail.

    Trump said he'd make America safe again:
    -No tax returns.
    -Flynn.
    -Conducting sensitive government business on the patio at Mar-a-Lago.
    -Photos of the guy carrying the nuclear football posing with a club member, exposing his identity.

    How does this behavior make us safe?

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:38 a.m.

    Let me guess - this is just another character assassination by the main stream media.

  • Creeper51 Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:38 a.m.

    One Vote

    Let's prove that Russia hacked the elections shall we? Any proof of that actually happening? When the re-count happened it was Hillary that lost votes, not Trump. Let's see the proof for them hacking the election, I wouldn't care if you said the Russians hacked the DNC, but that hacked exposed serious corruption within the DNC, so I'm not even upset with that. Hillary's campaign manager should have been able to see a phishing scam by the way.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:37 a.m.

    To our typical right wing posters and supporters of Comrade Trump. This has nothing to do with Hillary. Let's stay focused on what Trump knew and when, and why has he continuously defended Putin and Russia? We have a Republican Congress unwilling to investigate these dealings and they very well may be putting our country in grave danger. If they won't do their job we need to remove them from office in 2018.

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:33 a.m.

    Valerie Jarrett knew in November 2008 that Rod Blagojevich was trying to sell the senate seat...and she didn't report it.

    She went on to serve eight years as Obama's top advisor.

    And that's just one case we know about.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:25 a.m.

    Intentionally communicating with a sanctioned foreign power to remove sanctions before election is a clear violation of law. This is magnified by the Russian hacking of the election to favor Donald. This is a major situation and trump supporters did to chant this at future rowdy rallies. There will be further investigations as to why the administration has such a vested interest in the Russian connection. The present Administration is a historic disaster. Sad.

  • Joan Watson TWIN FALLS, ID
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:20 a.m.

    Lying by those in our government even in the highest echelon of office is not new.
    Which one of our presidents have not lied at times to the American public? One is glad that Flynn has resigned - just wish he had been truthfull and forthright when he was confronted with the facts of his conversation between himself and a Russian envoy. Lying is always a flaw in ones character.

  • Creeper51 Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:16 a.m.

    10Cc

    That doesn't look like corruption to me, that looks like Trump is distancing himself from the corruption, which is what every politician should do.

    So how is it a bad thing that he got rid of people who had conflicts of interest?

    Only a person who wants to see another fail, looks at it like you do, now if you can actually pin corruption to Trump himself, then you have an argument against him. Kind of like the unprotected server with Hillary's fingerprints all over it, or her charity with Qatari money in it.

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:13 a.m.

    Trump is a well known micro manager. He is known to obsess over the smallest of details.

    It is doubtful that Trump did not know what Flynn was up to. To believe Trump was ignorant begs and pleads disbelief.

    So, in the words of a John A Stormer, himself an evangelical conservative precursor to today's convervative movement, "None Dare Call it Treason". Conservatives, you metaphorically live by the sword, and metaphorically you will die by the sword.

  • UtahTroutStalker Draper, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:13 a.m.

    patriot - Cedar Hills, UT

    "ya got to be smarter than this -- sorry general"

    Love these comments. By smarter I guess you mean use methods of communication that our NSA and other intelligence agencies cannot listen in on? Why - so they can plot against our great nation and our allies?

    Not Patriotic. Sad.

  • Lia Sandy, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:12 a.m.

    We asked Chaffetz to look this over, and he overlooked it.

  • UtahTroutStalker Draper, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:10 a.m.

    cougar engineer - Alpine, UT

    "How can the commenters speak out so positively, and self-rightiously to condemn , without having heard the whole story."

    Well since this is the White House of "Alternative Facts" I wonder if we will ever know the whole story.

    Chaffetz is in a position to help us know the whole story. He should start hearings and investigate.

    Meanwhile we have Treasury Secretary that was just confirmed. He admittedly "forgot" to disclose that he had 100 Million dollars in an offshore account.

    It looks like some GOP members are finally going to stand against the confirmation of the Labor Secretary's nomination. Turns out he hired illegal aliens.

    The swamp is not being drained, it is being filled with those who stand to profit from "deals" that are bad for the average American citizen, but great for a Trump cabinet member or a member of his family.

  • Meter Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:08 a.m.

    Utahgirlchronicle

    Trump thus far has not voiced any support of lessening of sanctions against Russia.

    A phone call where things are discussed that shouldn't have been is completely different, than the conspiracy you've all been touting since before the election, with still no proof of it.

    I'd be willing to bet most of the liberals couldn't point to Saudi Arabia, or Qatar on a map, where Hillary was receiving money into the now defunct portion of her charity after the election.

    Now Flynn has been dealt with, what more do you really want, without evidence?

  • Meter Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:05 a.m.

    Mr. One vote

    If we aren't going to jail Hillary over her 18 destroyed cell phones, 30,000 missing emails, or her comments about overthrowing Ghadaffi, then an improper conversation on the phone won't be an offense worthy of jail time.

    Do you people even listen to yourselves?

  • Ralph Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:05 a.m.

    Flynn gets his marching orders from the guy at the top.

    What did Trump know and when did he know it. Did Trump direct Flynn to break the law?

    We Americans deserve an answer.

  • Yuge Opportunity Here Mapleton, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:04 a.m.

    We can fix mistakes...but don't lie to me.

    Obama would have given him a raise.

  • Daedalus, Stephen ARVADA, CO
    Feb. 14, 2017 7:50 a.m.

    @patriot. "ya got to be smarter than this -- sorry general"

    This translation does not convey the gutteral lyricism and saucy idiom from the orginal Russsian, but I think you captured the gist of it.

    Next time we see Flynn may be in the background of a photo of Trump and Chaffetz at dining at Mar a Lago, posted to Facebook with a caption like "We the people of Utah’s 3rd Congressional Distric, keepin it real whIle watching history happen! Rep. Chaffetz gets to the bottom of things with President Trump. Whooo wooo!"

    Flynn will be the guy dressed like a waiter, with one hand removing the empty bowl that had been heaped with Imperial Ossetra caviar, while the other hand deftly turns the centerpiece so the red gerbera daisy points towards Trump.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 7:39 a.m.

    One has to wonder how many more anti Trump, pro American posts there would already be on this article if the DNews did not limit the voices of its readers.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 7:13 a.m.

    This makes the third Trump insider who has left over too-cozy-of-relations with Russia:

    - early Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, who helped usher through changes at the GOP convention to ease sanctions on Russia, before being whisked off the stage as multi-million dollar payments from Russian sources were revealed for his work supporting the Russian leaning former president of Ukraine.

    - Trump campaign foreign policy advisor Carter Page, who was reported by Yahoo News to have met with the president of Russian state oil company Rosneft last July to discuss getting the sanctions lifted. (These were the sanctions in place before the 2016 election sanctions).

    - Now Mike Flynn, who went to Russia in December 2015 to get an award from the Russian government TV network, sitting at the same table as Vladimir Putin.

    We'll see where things go from here, but I think people are starting to understand while President Trump hasn't criticized Vladimir Putin.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 7:13 a.m.

    He violated the law. Jail him. Also there should be an investigation into whether classified documents were bought to the table at The Trumps' Country Club to entertain the guests.

  • Meter Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 7:10 a.m.

    Well that stinks, the Trump administration needs to be very careful when discussing things over the phone with diplomats of other countries.

    I am glad that Trump is still in opposition to lifting the sanctions against Russia, and he should continue to have the restrictions in place till a later date when terms can be discussed with them.

    Put this past your administration, and tighten up your security protocols please.

  • military mom Herriman, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 7:00 a.m.

    The AP reports that Russian lawmakers have " mounted a fierce defense of Flynn." His involvement with the Russian hierarchy and the president's refusal to condemn Putin and his government in any way, clearly indicate the necessity for Chaffetz and other congressional leaders to demand an in depth investigation into these matters. Since Trump refuses to release his tax returns, perhaps the investigation should begin there.

  • Bored to the point of THIS! Ogden, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 7:00 a.m.

    Are the wheels already coming off?

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 6:54 a.m.

    This, and so much more to come.

    So much Jason Chaffetz and his OVERSEEING anything...

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    Feb. 14, 2017 5:55 a.m.

    "...contradictions between the public depictions of the calls and what intelligence officials knew to be true based on recordings of the conversations, which were picked up as part of routine monitoring of foreign officials communications in the U.S."

    Routine monitoring. Surely the former DIA Director would know about this, right? Yet he proceeded anyway AND lied about it. He also placed others in the position of lying for him.

    Is this hubris? Incompetence? Is it realistic to believe that Trump didn't know he was going to have these conversations on this topic? Are we to believe that the egotistical Trump would be okay with even a trusted adviser usurping his authority like this? Why did the "resignation" happen only when the truth became public fare? Would Flynn still be ensconced if it hadn't?

    I think - I fervently hope - there's more to come. I'm also grateful for this sign that at least some portions of our government are working as they're meant to.

  • Baron Scarpia Logan, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 5:19 a.m.

    Flynn is the first domino to fall. click... click... click... Spicer is next... click... click... click..

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Feb. 14, 2017 4:23 a.m.

    A most unfortunate series of events....

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 4:04 a.m.

    Logic says that Flynn wouldn't have talked with the Russians, and given assurances to the Russians of so serious a nature, without 45 first approving. It appears to me that Flynn is taking the blame for 45. It's really time to start investigating 45. Chaffetz -- do your job.

  • Liberal On Planet Zion SLC, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 2:14 a.m.

    Draining the swamp! Not if but when will the impeachment proceedings begin?

  • Queen of Hearts Phoenix, AZ
    Feb. 14, 2017 1:18 a.m.

    Lying to the president?

    It seems that presidential administrations prefer to wait and see what heat develops before taking action. Since there was always a transcript of the incident, one might assume that Donald Trump may have known about Flynn's conversation with the Russian ambassador. It was certainly spoken about during the later days of the presidential transition. The Department of Justice informed the Trump administration about possible problems early on.

    Trump values loyalty, and Flynn was loyal. This is all conjecture, but maybe Flynn was instructed to keep quiet and wait to see if the Trump administration could dodge the bullet it hoped would not come. With the litany of executive orders and tweets, perhaps the story would get lost in the confusion. Sneak it through, so to speak.

    Whether Flynn lied to Sean Spicer, Reince Priebus and Mike Pence is questionable since so much of what this administration says is questionable. That's the problem with lies. If a person is a congenital liar like Trump, when do you decide to believe them?

    As of now, there needs to be an investigation (Jason Chaffetz??) to see if lies were really told.

  • avid_reader Washington, DC
    Feb. 14, 2017 1:06 a.m.

    I see that the usual Trump supporters are strangely quiet. How will you defend Trump's lack of critical thinking and hiring processes concerning NATIONAL SECURITY? Or will you rationalize that Flynn was acting as a lone wolf?

  • cougar engineer Alpine, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 12:40 a.m.

    The FBI reported on their transcript of the actual Flynn phone call intercepts that "there was nothing illicit or improper", in the Washington Post on January 23, 2016. All the hubbub about the horrible nature is a figment of the Media, blown out of proportion. Mr Flynn does admit that he was in error in not reporting completely to vice president elect Pence prior to the inauguration, causing Pence to report innacurately to the public. I Think Trump should have told his opposition to "pound sand" and expressed his loyalty to the man who had been so loyal to him in the past.

  • cougar engineer Alpine, UT
    Feb. 13, 2017 11:48 p.m.

    How can the commenters speak out so positively, and self-rightiously to condemn , without having heard the whole story. I wonder if we will ever hear the whole truth. When and if we do, then they can feel free to cast blame wherever it belongs. All we know at this point in time, is that Flynn had several conversations with the Russian ambassador, the vice president said he was told that there was no discussion of sanctions, and that "leaked" copies of the conversations were reported to have been revealed to the press, and that Flynn has now resigned. Everything else is pure conjecture.

  • David Centerville, UT
    Feb. 13, 2017 11:31 p.m.

    This type of behavior, chaos, mismanagement, and foolishness should come as no surprise, even to Trump supporters. Trump is damaging our country and will continue to do so. We missed a major opportunity to have a great president 4 years ago when Romney was defeated. But Republicans failed in 20012 to support a great man. Now Republicans line up behind Trump? What is happening to the party of great leaders like Lincoln and Reagan?

  • IceCreamGhost Sandy, UT
    Feb. 13, 2017 11:22 p.m.

    Where was Jason Chaffetz in all of this? Isn't investigating this sort of thing part of his job?

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 13, 2017 11:14 p.m.

    So, was this treasonous? What classified information did he give to Putin? What dirt does Putin have on trump? It's sounding more and more like the CNN report is accurate. How much longer until the video comes out?

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    Feb. 13, 2017 11:06 p.m.

    As a general, Flynn always served his commander-in-chief. He wasn't doing things rogue. Putin desperately wanted those sanctions lifted. The day after Flynn's phone call Trump tweeted what a smart man Putin was. Anyone can do the math.

    We need to see Trump's taxes to see how much debt he has to Russia. Flynn needs to be subpoenaed before Congress to get his story on the record. Why don't Democrats in Congress say "If you don't release your taxes by June 1, 2017, we'll start impeachment hearings and we'll get a few Republicans to join us"?

    Most Republicans in Congress appeared to favor the sanctions. They need to grow a spine, stop pandering to voters who couldn't find Russia on a map, and conduct a bi-partisan investigation to seek facts, similar to how Republicans and Democrats worked together when Watergate was going down.

  • pwlohse Dueren, 00
    Feb. 13, 2017 11:05 p.m.

    Two questions come to mind: What did Trump know and when did he know it?

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 13, 2017 10:54 p.m.

    Isn't this the guy who led the "lock her up, lock her up, lock her up" chant at the Republican convention?

    Well, lock him up, lock him up, lock him up!

  • The Real Maverick Spanish Fork, UT
    Feb. 13, 2017 10:46 p.m.

    How's that drain the swamp thingie workin out for ya? We are only 3 weeks in and Donald is already having massive scandals!

  • Jim Chee Ka'anapali, HI
    Feb. 13, 2017 10:29 p.m.

    One down.

    Sean Spicer may be next.

    But not Kellyanne Conway. She has done some pretty stupid stuff for Donald Trump, including selling her soul. But Trump appreciates her loyalty, and she will continue carrying water until she drops. It may be difficult considering the upcoming ethics investigation. However, that may be of no consequence since Trump is not concerned with ethics and conflicts-of-interest.

    Understandably Reince Priebus may come under more heat as he fights with the daring duo, Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller. Also, more Breibart people are joining the Trump administration as the white nationalists burrow deeper into the federal government. Miller's recent comment that Trump's authority and national security decisions "will not be questioned."

    This is a policy adviser that Trump likes. He prefers those who will stand up for him as he apparently moves to establish a more authoritarian government. Miller even went to the extreme validation of his boss by stating unequivocally that there was massive voter fraud as Trump believes.

    So well continue trying to guess who will go next, but keep your eye on Spicer. The word is out on him.

  • GingerMarshall Brooklyn, OH
    Feb. 13, 2017 10:09 p.m.

    The man was a traitor and liar. Not the only one in this administration, just the first one exposed.

    There will be others, we know this because of conflicts of interest, ethical issues, and foreign entanglements that have been widely discussed but were brazenly denied by the Trump White House and blatantly ignored by the Senate.

    Three weeks in.

    Many thanks to the patriotic Americans who exposed this to sunlight and kept it in the light.

    We must continue.

  • Daedalus, Stephen ARVADA, CO
    Feb. 13, 2017 10:03 p.m.

    Even Flynn's resignation letter is raising concerns. Flynn explains how he "plans to spend more time with my family" but he added "in Minsk" to that standard face-saving phrase.

    Trump's other advisors figured it was a town in North Dakota.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Feb. 13, 2017 10:02 p.m.

    ya got to be smarter than this -- sorry general

  • SAS Sandy, UT
    Feb. 13, 2017 9:53 p.m.

    So, Mr. Chaffetz. What was that about your oversight committee waiting for indications of misconduct rather than going on fishing expeditions?

    What sort of indications do we have to wait for, exactly?

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 13, 2017 9:35 p.m.

    Well finally, an admission of impropriety out of the Trump Administration. There will be more.

  • no fit in SG St.George, UT
    Feb. 13, 2017 9:35 p.m.

    Perhaps, prayers have been answered, and the Trump presidency will collapse.
    One at a time, day after day, investigation after investigation..........

  • There You Go Again St George, UT
    Feb. 13, 2017 9:30 p.m.

    Lock HIM up?

    He lied to the VP.

    He lied to the iPOTUS.

    He lied to the American people.

    During the campaign the re-Publicans chanted

    Lock HER up...

    For lying.

    The re-Publicans will chant...

    Lock HIM up...

    Right?

  • Daedalus, Stephen ARVADA, CO
    Feb. 13, 2017 9:24 p.m.

    The Trump presidency is like a dream

    ...of a12-year-old boy in 1983

    ...who before bed, reads a chapter from the latest Tom Clancy thriller

    ...before skimming this month's issue of Mad Magazine

    ...while eating Pop Rocks candy

    ...washed down with soda.

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    Feb. 13, 2017 9:24 p.m.

    This Trump administration is pure chaos. If acting Attorney General Sally Yates warned Trump about Flynn possibly opening himself up to blackmail, and she was then fired, that means Trump put politics above country. Trump sat on that news because Flynn was his buddy. Disgraceful.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Feb. 13, 2017 8:30 p.m.

    Yep. But since Trump knows better than "the Generals" and the CIA, he ignored them. People, regardless of politically party, we need to acknowledge that Trump and the people that he surrounds himself with, are a threat to America's security.