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Associated Press Top 25: Utes finish season ranked No. 23; Clemson captures top spot after upsetting Bama

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  • Jello is Good Seattle, WA
    Jan. 13, 2017 6:25 a.m.

    @Ute Mythology

    "Nonsense, the beating Utah put on #4 Bama in the 2009 Sugar Bowl resonates more than some fluke BYU win over Miami."

    In your house the Utah game does. In my house the BYU game does. Nationally? Who knows. Hard to get a pulse of national opinion from the Utah bubble.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 12, 2017 4:21 p.m.

    Utah'95 - FPO, AE
    Jan. 12, 2017 2:29 p.m.
    Uteology and Spokane Ute,

    Trust me, I'm a lifelong Utah fan. But BYU's win over Miami resonated, and still resonates, in a way that this season's Utah victory over USC does/will.

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    Nonsense, the beating Utah put on #4 Bama in the 2009 Sugar Bowl resonates more than some fluke BYU win over Miami.

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    Jan. 12, 2017 2:29 p.m.

    Uteology and Spokane Ute,

    Trust me, I'm a lifelong Utah fan. But BYU's win over Miami resonated, and still resonates, in a way that this season's Utah victory over USC does/will.

    Miami had won the national championship the year before, and they were ranked #1 when they came to Provo.

    The game was the coming out party of Ty Detmer in what would be his Heisman Trophy winning season.

    Having lived outside of the intermountain region for the last 20+ years, I can tell you that many college football fans (not just BYU fans) remember that game. Not even all of the Ute fan base will remember this season's win over the Trojans in 10 years.

    I love my Utes, but let's be reasonable...

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 12, 2017 9:33 a.m.

    @Virginians for BYU
    throwing around high fives about just being ranked in the final poll seems like the enthusiasm bar is set a bit low.

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    Who are you to judge?

    Considering Cougar Nation throws high fives and chest bumps for one point loss and Sagarin rankings.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 12, 2017 9:28 a.m.

    @Utah'95

    BYU's win over Miami was epic. This year's Utah win over USC doesn't compare.

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    The Miami win was a fluke, BYU has beaten TWO P5 final ranked teams since, in 25 years.

    In 3 years, Utah has SIX wins: #3 USC, #10 UCLA, #11 Michigan, #11 Stanford, #19 Oregon, and #21 USC.

  • Creeper51 Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 12, 2017 7:48 a.m.

    Virginians

    I love how the BYU faithful are always moving the goal post. "Well being ranked in the top third of all college football teams, is good, but it isn't the top half of the top half, so not so good."

    If being ranked in the top 25 isn't that good, what does that say about BYU who hasn't done that in 5 years?

    BYU fans you can't sat anything in regards to this season, without denigrating their own team.

    Utah won the head to head, and ended the season ranked. We have better signature wins, and more award winning players. Life is tough, but you'll make it through.

  • Virginians for BYU Muncie, IN
    Jan. 11, 2017 12:36 p.m.

    What is the real accomplishment of an end of the year ranking when a team is ranked out of the top 5 or 10? If you are in the top 10 you were probably playing for a conference championship or even playing in the playoff. If you are beyond the top 20 teams it probably means you have a winning record but lost 3 or more games and were not a top team in your conference. If the NFL had rankings for teams that were not in the playoffs competing for the championship would anyone care? Utah.. I am happy for you that you ended the season being ranked.... Congrats... But considering with 5 games left in the season you had a potential to be playing for so much more... throwing around high fives about just being ranked in the final poll seems like the enthusiasm bar is set a bit low.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Jan. 11, 2017 12:24 p.m.

    Utah'95 - FPO, AE
    Jan. 10, 2017 11:45 p.m.

    BYU's win over Miami was epic. This year's Utah win over USC doesn't compare.
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    Our win was more epic then your win, so there. Boy has this thread diminished.

  • Stringer Bell Henderson, NV
    Jan. 11, 2017 11:29 a.m.

    @Worf......"These rankings are based on a- P5/NCAA monopoly."

    Better tell that to W. Michigan.

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    Jan. 11, 2017 7:41 a.m.

    worf,

    If "rankings are based on a P5/NCAA monopoly," then how have 15 non-P5 teams finished at least one football season ranked since BYU last did it in 2009?

    BSU has done it 4 times.

    Houston, Central Florida and Western Kentucky have each done it twice.

    Western Michigan, South Florida, San Diego State, Navy, Utah State, San Jose State, Northern Illinois, Southern Miss, Cincinnati, Nevada, and Tulsa have also done it once.

    If those schools (most of them don't have the name-recognition of BYU) can do it, then why can't the Cougars?

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 7:22 a.m.

    @Worf......"These rankings are based on a- P5/NCAA monopoly."

    Yes that is all the rankings are based off of all P5 teams and voters get together and secretly decide to do whatever they can to not rank the mighty cougies.

    LOL, funniest thing I've ever heard from a cougie fan

  • Eddie Would Go FPO, AE
    Jan. 11, 2017 6:37 a.m.

    If BYU is a "legacy" program, and has the respect of everyone who isn't a Utah fan, then why haven't they finished a season ranked in the AP Poll since 2009?

    Since the Cougars last finished the season ranked in the AP Poll, 64 other teams have.

    If BYU is as highly regarded as many on you believe, then where is the "grade inflation" in the polls?

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    Jan. 10, 2017 11:45 p.m.

    BYU's win over Miami was epic. This year's Utah win over USC doesn't compare.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    Jan. 10, 2017 11:26 p.m.

    These rankings are based on a- P5/NCAA monopoly.

  • Virginians for BYU Muncie, IN
    Jan. 10, 2017 8:32 p.m.

    Uteology...

    BYU beat Miami when Miami was ranked #1. Miami ended the season ranked #3.
    Miami won the national championship the year prior to BYU beating them. Miami won the National Championship the year after BYU beat them.

    Compare that to Utah Beating USC... USC was 1-2 and unranked when Utah beat them.... USC finishes the season Ranked #3 after winning 9 games in a row. USC ended the prior season @ 8-6.
    Hard to make a case that Utah beating USC was a bigger win than BYU beating #1 Miami...

    When it really comes down to it.... Both Utah and BYU won most of their games against teams that finished the season with losing records and lost all their games against teams that were ranked. 5 years from now I doubt anyone is going to be talking about how great either team was in 2016....

  • CDM1525 West Point, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 7:10 p.m.

    Here we go again with the byu faithful saying they are better than Utah because of a computer ranking or how they finished the season. If only they played each other, or played the same opponents then we would really see. Oh, but wait....

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 10, 2017 4:20 p.m.

    @Virginians for BYU

    Beating an unranked 1-2 USC team is not the same as beating the #3 team in the country. USC arrived at #3 by winning their last 9 games of the season by beating the exact same teams that were chalking up wins against Utah...

    BYU beating the #1 team in the country that ultimately finished @# 3 is still the best win against ranked competition in the state....

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    Nonsense! BYU has never beat a #1 team in nation, as you said Miami was #3.

    This year, Utah lost to at the time 4-1 Cal. So what? Utah beat unranked Michigan in week 1 of 2015, they finished #11. Utah beat the same USC team as #4 Alabama and #12 Stanford.

    In 8 years, Utah has beat #3 USC, #11 Michigan, #19 Oregon, #10 UCLA, #21 USC, # 11 Stanford, #6 Alabama, #7 TCU, #18 Oregon State, #25 BYU.

    Over same period, BYU has a win over #16 USU and #21 Utah.

  • Tomahawk Red San Francisco, CA
    Jan. 10, 2017 1:36 p.m.

    ekute - Layton, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 9:10 a.m.

    USC Trojans,
    We cleaned your clock...again.

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    Dont be fooled.

    byu-p fan.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 12:57 p.m.

    burningblue:

    Lets edit your comment and ask if coog fans can follow your advice:

    "To those of you that think the [coogs] are better than [Utah], [you] are deluded. They finished ranked higher, won more meaningful games and played in (and won) a better bowl. Give it a rest."

    Of course, the big difference is Utah actually beat USC during the regular season, while BYU actually lost to Utah. Yet, here you all are, propping up the coogs. Sheesh!

  • Virginians for BYU Muncie, IN
    Jan. 10, 2017 12:53 p.m.

    Not to rain on the feel good parade but I am guessing that real Utah fans understand that Utah beat exactly 3 teams that finished the season with a winning record... BYU, USC and SUU... And went 2-3 in the last five games of the season... with only 2 of those teams ending the season with a winning record... Utah lost to every ranked team they played... Not exactly the breakfast of champions.... And no... Beating an unranked 1-2 USC team is not the same as beating the #3 team in the country. USC arrived at #3 by winning their last 9 games of the season by beating the exact same teams that were chalking up wins against Utah...

    BYU beating the #1 team in the country that ultimately finished @# 3 is still the best win against ranked competition in the state....

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 12:14 p.m.

    Congrats to the Utes and Coach Whit.

  • SIMPLICITY Denver, CO
    Jan. 10, 2017 11:42 a.m.

    Once again, Utah Utes are ranked top 25 in CFP, a perennial college football power.

    The best team in the state of Utah again.

    Dominate byu-p six years in a row and counting.

    Rankings do matter, top 25 3 years running...
    Go UTES!!

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 11:32 a.m.

    @ekute - merely commenting to the @unclerico comment that the U beating USC was the best win EVER by a school from this state and that it was the only win over a team finishing ranked #3. Go ahead and read all the comments and my comment will make sense, you seem to be looking through rose colored glasses just as unclerico was in his comment.

    As for living in the past, I'm not stuck on the past and would love to see BYU play like that again today. I'm glad the U has done so well in the past few years and hope they can keep it up. And I hope that they can get past the November blues and make noise nationally, just as I hope BYU can be relevant again on the national scene. If the U and BYU are successful then everyone wins.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 10, 2017 10:59 a.m.

    Cletus from Coalville - Coalville, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 8:20 a.m.
    We only got ranked 29 by CBS and that’s not fair! But we almost won #74 California and #88 Oregon that’s real neat! But they still won us darn it but they were real good!

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    Don't cry, I think we can live without a CBS ranking.

    We also almost won #4 Washington and at #17 Colorado. The difference, your program celebrates a one point moral loss to Utah, we celebrate top a 25 team.

  • SUNNY ALL DAY St George, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 10:50 a.m.

    Not bad...
    UTAH is a member of a P5 Conference.
    byu-provo has not been able to convince any P5 Conference to accept them as a member.
    UTAH has defeated byu-provo 6 consecutive times.
    Your frustration is duly noted.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 10:20 a.m.

    Johnny Triumph,
    Yeah boy! Them were the days! "over 20 years" ago...and I guess 27 years ago is better than never. go cougs.

  • slcftball Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 10:14 a.m.

    Not bad Utah
    Finished right in middle of PAC12 where you have found a home in football

    Other sports not so well

    Final Rankings:
    3- USC
    4- Wash
    12- Stanford
    17- Colorado
    23- Utah

  • SUNNY ALL DAY St George, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 9:50 a.m.

    @sctrojans
    Alabama 52 sc 6
    Stanford 27 sc 10
    Utah 31 sc 27
    Thanks!

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 9:47 a.m.

    I agree that beating USC was big, and good for the U that the QB mess at USC was still in flux. But @UncleRico, you've got your facts wrong. BYU beat then #1 Miami in 1990, Miami finished #3 in the AP Poll that year. And beating the current #1 and defending national champion trumps beating a 1-2 team. Beating USC was a good win, and good for Utah that USC was still figuring out the QB change in the 2nd half of that game.

    And I have to say that the Miami game really was electric. I was in the 4th row behind the Miami bench and they were the most foul mouthed, trashy bunch of guys I've ever seen. Some of the players spent much of the game turned around and yelling at the stands. I was glad BYU played well, the arrogance was gone by the time the game ended and we all rushed the field. It was a lot of fun to be part of!

  • burningblue Provo, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 9:44 a.m.

    @Ute Fans

    To those of you that think the Utes are better than USC, Pac-12 and Rose Bowl Champs, are deluded. They finished ranked higher, won more meaningful games and played in (and won) a better bowl. Give it a rest.

  • burningblue Provo, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 9:35 a.m.

    Congratulations to Utah on the final ranking. You guys deserve it.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 9:20 a.m.

    JellyRoll:

    I know it's tough for sme coog fans to process. The end AP results and the too-early ranking you cite prove that all the blue brag about legacy and national brand is just hot air. Legacy and brand never produced a critical score over a ranked team or enough relevant, national respect to earn votes. Face it, the trophies are dusty, you're now an unloved independant and fleeting relevance just once, maybe twice, a year doesn't cut it. You are . . . Army, in a blue frock.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 9:12 a.m.

    Jello is Good,
    Downplaying the fact that Utah will be ranked and overjoyed that byu got a mention. I've seen this before.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 9:12 a.m.

    U$C:

    Scoreboard!

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 9:10 a.m.

    USC Trojans,
    We cleaned your clock...again.

  • USC Trojans Ontario, CA
    Jan. 10, 2017 9:05 a.m.

    Congrats to Utah for your AP ranking and being the 5th place team in the PAC-12; keep up the momentum. I believe this is a realistic goal for your team and coaches to squeak into the top 25 each year.

    Best of luck next year and I hope you find a OC with longevity and success.

    USC
    PAC-12 South Champions
    Rose Bowl Champions

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 8:42 a.m.

    Congrats to the Utes and BYU.

  • Jello is Good Seattle, WA
    Jan. 10, 2017 8:30 a.m.

    @Uncle Rico - Provo, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 5:52 a.m.

    "Utah beat a team that finished 3rd in country. Best win ever by a school from this state.

    The other teams in the state haven't beaten a P5 team that finished ranked in over 20 years; and never beaten a team that finished number 3."

    And still top 2 in your obsession.

    Utah overall had a great year, although there were missed opportunities. For the past 3 years they appear to have leveled off in the low 20's. I hope the new attention to offense with this OC will help give you some traction up.

    BYU also received some votes. Although I am not satisfied with that, it is a marked improvement from the last few years. Already pre-season predictions are coming out. Again Utah is predicted in the low 20's. But where BYU received no attention in the last few years, they have been picked by a pole posted in DN to finish top 30.

    BYU/UTAH in LES will be big and will be tight, just like the overwhelming majority of these games. The winner ends up in the top 20 at the end of the year. The loser does not.

  • Cletus from Coalville Coalville, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 8:20 a.m.

    We only got ranked 29 by CBS and that’s not fair! But we almost won #74 California and #88 Oregon that’s real neat! But they still won us darn it but they were real good!

    Go Utes!

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    Jan. 10, 2017 7:19 a.m.

    Hurrah! Another top 25 finish where we were previously left out! Way to get it together AP. They join the Coaches Poll and the only real poll that matters (playoff poll) in proclaiming the Utes not only one of the finest programs in the West, but in all of our great nation! Take heart my Cougar friends! You had a fine season and although you struggled to get votes toward any of these polls, you got just as many wins as the Utes this season. Yes, you lost to them again, but you had many moral victories along the way and won a crackerjack of a group of 5 bowl. Great seasons for both teams!

  • Rumoris Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 7:05 a.m.

    So what is that now? Three season in a row?

  • Uncle Rico Provo, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 5:52 a.m.

    Utah beat a team that finished 3rd in country. Best win ever by a school from this state.

    The other teams in the state haven't beaten a P5 team that finished ranked in over 20 years; and never beaten a team that finished number 3.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 5:52 a.m.

    Sweet!

  • Tomahawk Red San Francisco, CA
    Jan. 10, 2017 2:54 a.m.

    Another season finished in the top 25.

    Par for the course.