Watch the Trump smoke and mirrors. You can't cut taxes, build the great
wall which taxpayers are now going to have to pay for, keep funding wars in the
Middle East, and do something constructive about health care reform. Unless, you
are going to raise some taxes and do massive cuts in education, social security,
Medicare, Medicaid, foreign aid, and the Department of Defense. For those
blaming Obama ask yourselves where your Republican congressional representatives
were the past 8 yrs. Either being obstructionists or writing blank checks with
nothing to back them up. The Bush wars were done on a credit card. The Middle
East will never have peace. They never have. It is a financial snakepit that we
likely can't get out of. Washington needs a reality check including our
new president.Trump will make sure the wealthy do not take big tax hit, everyone
knows the poor can't so it will be put on the backs of the middle tax and
the lower middle class.
1 nuclear armed hypersonic missile has a range of 1200+ miles and can hit a
target at nearly 100 miles per minute [think SLC to LA in 6 minutes ~ 1.9 miles
per second] = cost $1.2 million.1 nuclear aircraft carrier, 1,400 ft
long target, loitering speed of 40 knots = cost $5 Billion.One could
make the case [like Pres. Jimmy Carter did - and has been proven right time and
again for the the last 40 years]5,000 missiles or 1 aircraft
carrier [target].And do not even get me started on the use of drones
[which are now doing the bulk of the dirty work in the Middle East now].Trump is living in 1951 America...HAND couriers for mail and
more ships??! Seriously?!!
@frozen fractalsWell Im not sure why the budget deficit seems to be
the fallback for liberals when it comes to the national debt and you say the
annual deficit is at 400billion right now. That might be for this fiscal year I
havnt checked.But what I do know is that Oblama is estimated to have
a combined deficit after he leaves office of 7.3 trillion after an 8yr term.
That avg's to 912 billion deficit per year, obviously that is just an avg
its different yr to yr.In comparison to George W Bush his deficit
after 8yrs was 3.29 trillion for an avg of 411billion annually, the next closest
was Reagan with an avg of 176 billion annually.The tot cost of the 2
wars was 1.7 trill the rest was all Oblama, inheriting a poor economy or not,
created by B. Clinton contrary to popular opinion, Oblama did nothing to correct
our countries problems and spending habits. This is the cost of
socialism and expanding govt. Adding a failed healthcare system in the ACA with
an annual cost of 4 trill for example. Oblama will go down as the $20 trillion
dollar man, spending more $ than all presidents before combined.That will
be his legacy like it or not.
Let's be very clear about how government funding works. The house, yes the
republican held House of Representatives holds the purse strings. Not Obama, of
course he makes a good scape goat and of course he can veto bills but he
didn't spend anything.Also isn't telling that Obamacare
has been the target of republicans for six years and they have voted to repeal
it numerous times but now they are saying they are going to phase it out over
time. It shows they never had a plan to replace in the first place and they are
scared of the black lash from voters for an out right appeal. I thought the
swamp was going to be drained and there would be no more politics.
Pathetic!Some folks don't like having a strong defense, but are
ok with our current commander giving billions of dollars away to other
countries, and to American citizens who something for nothing.Strengthening our military will create many jobs, and get people of the dole.
Back to work for a prosperous America. Thank you Mr. Trump!
Military spending on durable goods can have some financial benifits by pumping
money into the economy without producing goods that do not have to be consumed
the general public. My concerns are that in the past there has been a great deal
of waste and the money sits mostly in the bank accounts of the top executives of
the defense cotractors, the other is concern of a return of the Cold War and
higthened risk of war. I would prefer to see investments in other infrastructure
projects that accounts mush the same financial benifits rather then more
military build up.
@Thid Barker "The Trump effect=more good paying jobs=more taxpayers=
more tax revenue= more prosperity= more national defense= freedom"I wonder if Idaho is right behind Utah in people falling for pyramid
@Sportsfan123Well if you look at Obama's deficits the worst was the
first year and that was when we were crashing into a recession (so revenue fell
sharply), we still had Bush's wars to pay for, and we needed to stimulate
the economy to stop the freefall. After that Obama's deficits decreased
over the years. Now we have about a 400 billion annual deficit and an incoming
administration that wants to pass a huge tax cut, a huge infrastructure program,
and a huge buildup of the military (let's assume no wars for simplicity, or
at least nothing more than we currently have with ISIS). That's a lot of
money to add onto the deficit.
So far libs are complaining about the cost and are fear mongering thinking Trump
will use the military to start WWIII.Lets do a cost comparison since
Trump hasnt actually spent any money yet. Bush spent 8 trill.Oblama approx
12 trill. Oblama has spent more money than any president b4 him, why aren't
libs complaining about that?Oblama is responsible for a failed economy
with the lowest job participation rate on record the real measure of
unemployment. A 4 trillion annual cost for a failed healthcare program which
only 18% of the population uses. That is 20 mill people vs 340 mill who pay for
it and dont use it, thats called robbing Peter to pay Paul.As far as
the fear mongering goes, well I heard many a conservative and republican echo
the same sentiments about Oblama, so I understand since he took us for a ride
down socialist blvd for 8yrs and look how unstable our country is internally and
economically with a weakened military that apparently doesn't deter enemies
like Putin from hacking our DNC exposing the fraud that Hillary is.Despite Trumps faults, he's a breath of fresh air.
The only way to do this without going further into debt is to raise taxes. If
the GW Bush years taught us anything it's that these things aren't
going to pay for themselves. You can't cut taxes and raise spending without
Come on liberals, Trump strengthening our military is a good thing. All Trump
has to do is mention the legendary 101st airborne division to any sovereign
nation who is acting up and usually they back off, something Oblama apparently
is not aware of or refuses to do. Our 101st airborne div has never
lost a battle in its history, many a president in the past has done this. It is
an example to all just how effective having a strong military really is. Trump recommitting to strengthen the military is a really good thing. I
am thankful he got in as POTUS not hillary another four years of dem/liberal
policies that obviously don't work would have potentially been disastrous
for our country.
Folks - do some research.The US has more carriers than all of the
other navies of the world combined. Waste of money!Trump wants
Japan, and other nations to start to increase their spending on defense - then
us putting ourselves into more debt is not the answer. My goodness!
@DN Subscriber - Cottonwood Heights, UTWe have no carriers deployed
anywhere in the world? Really? I have a good friend from high school that
commands a destroyer. He would beg to differ from you. We have carriers
deployed all over the world.The US currently has 19 carriers with 16
planned even before Trump becomes President. Again he tries to take credit for
something he did not even do. Stop spreading fake news. If Trump
were to be a real fiscal conservative he would not build 16 more carriers. That
money could help fund his 1 Trillion infrastructure program.
Navy ships are slow, lumbering, expensive and easily targeted. Let's hope
that sane minds understand that doubling down on 1900s technology is not what
will make the US military strong. The Navy absolutely has its place, and are a
necessary part of any solution.Comparing battle readiness to WWI and
WWII shows a huge lack of understanding of the modern battlefield and current
@gary oI read this article, did you? Clearly the premise of this
article is the build up of the American Navy.You said, "through
our new Republican Russian coalition, we can do the same for Putin".So now we're building a Navy for the Russians? I am assuming that
is what you meant. O I guess this is the same logic liberals are using
complaining that Russia got Trump elected, but you have all complained that
Hillary got the most votes. So did Hillary get more votes because of this Hack
or was it Trump?Trump is building up the military just like he said
he would and it will be used as a deterrant, not to bully smaller countries and
commit genocide as you have stated.Atleast he's not
sequestering the military then touting to the world that we have the strongest
and most powerful military in the world, and then call back every single U.S.
aircraft carrier in our fleet. Who exactly is Oblama trying to fool?Trump will strengthen the military first then he wont have to say much to
Putin, and the Ayatola Khomani before they try doing something crazy.
The survival of our nation depends on our ability to defend ourselves and our
vital lanes of commerce. This has been true since the days of Jefferson and the
Barbary pirates through the U-boat menace of WW1 and WW2. The keystone of
American power has been a fleet of aircraft carriers with a mix of planes
providing a flexible mix of options from disaster relief, to presence, to
pinpoint strikes to sustained attacks on targets hundreds of miles from the
sea.Last week, for the first time since prior to WW2 there was not a
single U.S. aircraft carrier deployed anywhere in the world. Our fleet is
smaller than at any time prior to WW1.Ships take years to build and
are expensive. Lack of fighting ships can end our country and the price will be
unfathomable. Clinton's "peace dividend" and
Obama's doubling of the national debt with nothing to show for it but
Democrat voters having more "free stuff" have placed our national
security in peril. We must strengthen the Navy, but that spending
will create jobs and economic growth more than sending out welfare checks for
the same amount.
It's a historical fact.Weak countries are conquered, and we are
definitely spiraling in a downward spin. Sheesh! And we can't even put
men in space anymore.Peace through strength! Strength which create
jobs.Thank you Trump for wanting to make America strong and
prosperous.Get our citizens off the dole, and back to work.
If a rising tide raises all boats, build more boats!
Get 'er done!
Here is a concept that seems to escape some people. The Trump effect=more good
paying jobs=more taxpayers= more tax revenue= more prosperity= more national
defense= freedom! The Obama effect is more minimum wage jobs= fewer tax
contributors=more entitlements= more national debt=less jobs=more debt=less
national defense=less freedom! See how easy that is?
The various nations, including ours, will pursue military build-up as a means of
maintaining employment and supporting profits, Ike's military-industrial
complex.Is it not amazing, that with the collapse of Soviet
communism we have never achieved the "peace dividend." That's
because nobody - worldwide - wants it. Modern capitalism - both the
Russian/Chinese and American versions - need military investment to soak up
labor unneeded otherwise.
Neither president elect Trump, his sons, or son in law have ever served in the
military or been deployed. It is easy to send everyone else's sons and
daughters to war. Our efforts towards peace should be 100 times what our efforts
towards war are. Look at the young man that just carried out those terrible
shootings in the Florida airport. He was deployed in Iraq and watched two of his
close friends get blown up. Per comments from his family and people that knew
him he was never the same after that. There is a terrible cost to war on many,
many fronts. Neither Trump or Congress are saying how they are going
to pay for the wall with Mexico, the beefed up military that is being
financially beefed up far more than what the military is actually asking for.
Or, how all these other things that have been promised are going to be paid for.
Are they going to run us even deeper in debt? Remember Trump said he loves debt.
On the backs of the middle class? On the backs of the elderly with cuts to
Medicare and Social Security? The taxpayers, regardless of party affiliation,
have a right to know before they do it.
For eight years the drumbeat of Cons has been deficits matter.Now
that they control both branches of Government...Deficits don't
matter.C'est la vie.
It feels like this is the not-so-calm calm before a really big storm.
And how are we going to pay for this Mr. Trump? With increases in military
spending, a vow to renew the nuclear arms race, a $40 billion wall
(construction, eminent domain and property compensation, and maintenance), a
promise of bigly investment in infrastructure, combined with tax cuts, which
will mostly benefit the wealthy, yearly deficits, which were finally reduced to
pre-recession levels (before 2008), will go off the charts again.
Pay attention Utah. It's your sons & daughters that will supply the
bloodshed when Trump decides to tryout his new military.
Real "shovel ready" jobs paid for by Mexico and China via import taxes
on goods they dump here! President Trump is always one step ahead of his
critics! In the meantime, America is becoming great again!
And the deficit will (a) increase madly or (b) decrease with this spending? The military-industrial complex is in a mad rush to transfer billions
into corporate coffers, which is why the first step was attempting to gut and
neutralize the congressional ethics office - if the 1% is getting a huge boost,
they have to keep their congressional puppets in line with regular treat$$$.
In today's modern military are these ships with all their precious cargo of
US sailors just sitting ducks on the water?I think ultimately this
is a failed strategy to build up more very expensive ships that at the end of
the day will have little to no positive impact on our lives.Smaller
vessels that use drone tech, and drone aircraft are much less expensive and we
can keep the people operating them safe at home. Right now the enemy is
developing techniques to shoot down drones, and keep us from seeing what they
are doing. We already have more aircraft carriers and more advanced fighter
and bombers than anyone else in the world.Seems like money wasted
when DTJ has promised 1 Trillion dollars in infrastructure improvement. How
will the middle class taxpayers afford this?
Is Mexico going to pay for these ships, too?
More weapons!!Wow!For years, we have been the bully boy
for Israel, doing their heavy work for them in the arena of genocide.And now, through our new Republican-Russian coalition, we can do the same for
Putin.Mr Putin must be ecstatic!