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  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 12:50 p.m.

    Back in the 1960's and 70's there was a sunday night show called "Candid Camera". My favorite segment was called "caught in the act of being yourself". Funny stuff. Well the Democrats were also "caught in the act of being themselves" during the 2016 campaign and the Wikileaks emails proved it. Yes the embarasing political mess that the DNC became entangled in after it was shown how they were connected at the hip with CNN and NBC during the entire campaign. Also the racist speech used by the DNC and the plot to destroy Bernie also not helpful. So at the end of the day this entire thing boils down to getting caught and trying to shift blame. Same ole Democrats. Finally the Russians have been hacking for the past 8 years and suddenly Obama finally gets all excited when it shines the light of truth on him!! Go figure. My thoughts are --thanks to Wikileaks and Mr. Putin for exposing truth....and now let's upgrade our authentication software at the federal level so it can't be hacked going forward.

  • JHyatt Smithfield, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 12:43 p.m.

    @patriot

    "I say Wikileaks is heroic for exposing the dirty tricks of the Democrats."

    You say this because we haven't seen leaked emails from the Republican side. Promise, they would be filled with as many, if not more, 'dirty tricks.'

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    Jan. 8, 2017 4:30 p.m.

    I would like to thank the Russian hackers for showing the voting public how the Democrat party really works. Perhaps Obama should give them a freedom of information award (instead of Hillary's reset button). I could never vote for either Trump or Hillary, but the entire mess demonstrates the dishonesty of the political system we have.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Jan. 8, 2017 8:43 a.m.

    We really need to see Donnie's financial records, specifically how much he has invested in Russian/Chinese/Taiwanese projects and how much he owes to Russian/Chinese Taiwanese banks. Involvement in other countries' projects and loans with other countries' banks would also be of interest, but they're not the main ones about which we need to know.

    It seems apparent that Putin/Russia worked to get one of their puppets in the White House, and succeeded in the effort. I'd be curious to know to what extent Putin/Russia owns him, and what other countries also have an ownership interest. We need to know what it will take to defend against the ramifications of Donnie's conflicts of interest.

  • Salsero Provo, UT
    Jan. 8, 2017 2:43 a.m.

    Did you notice? Donald Trump still cannot get himself to accept the findings of the U.S. intelligence services and say the Russian government had the skill, knowledge, equipment, expertise, and purpose to mount an assault on our electoral process. Perhaps he will come to bend a bit more when this issue dominates the first months of his presidency as Congress begins an investigation

    He doesn't care except that a tainted election means that his being elected was not all because of him, and that bothers him a great deal. Now, maybe he'll get over it, but the "witch hunt" which he claims is being waged against him by Democrats and malcontents rests deep inside and he will probably react more in the days ahead.

    We see Trump as a non-apologetic and aggressive individual who rejects responsibility for whatever he does. Certainly he is incapable of working with those who are not completely supports in both admiration of himself and his objectives. 140-character pronouncements are not sufficient to communicate with people who want information since it is limited and unidirectional. But it works for attacking others and spreading disinformation.

  • Mad Hatter Provo, UT
    Jan. 8, 2017 2:32 a.m.

    Riverton Cougar - Riverton, UT
    Jan. 7, 2017 9:51 p.m.

    But there's no proof that the email hacks actually came from Russia.... Wikileaks says they didn't come from any national government . . . The bottom line is that the leaks exposed Democratic corruption, and Americans rejected it. "

    A couple of points you missed in whatever news coverage you utilize.

    First, like military security, intelligence security is granted to select people in government. Just because you don't have the actual full report doesn't mean that members of Congress haven't seen the evidence. Either you trust in your representatives or you don't. If you don't, then say your piece and sit down. You definitely can't say that there is no evidence if you've not seen the report.

    Trusting in WikiLeaks is disingenuous in this because Julian Assange is highly prejudiced and had his own ax to grind. There's a need for critical analytical skills here which are not evident.

    Second, if the leaks exposed "Democratic corruption" as you put it and "Americans rejected it", then that is "impact" and very clear to any non-partisan observer.

  • Jim Chee Ka'anapali, HI
    Jan. 8, 2017 2:17 a.m.

    "After intel brief, Trump says hack had no impact on election"

    It's very revealing that Donald Trump did not address the computer hack information provided by top intelligence agencies. Instead, he made a statement (after calling attention to this activity as a "witch hunt") saying that these agencies "confirmed" that there was no affect on the presidential election.

    This sleight-of-hand maneuver is typical of Trump and we have seen it many time before. He likes to say things and provide "evidence" that doesn't exist. The same intelligence agencies which provided his briefing Friday did not address the impact on the election. They said nothing about the impact because it was beyond their purpose. So Trump just made it up.

    Many in this thread who support Trump used the "exposed" emails as evidence of why people voted for Trump. They insist the emails "prove" that Hillary Clinton is corrupt, a liar, and unfit to be president. Although they deny, in many cases, that there was a hack at all, they insist that it was critical to exposing Hillary and substantially helping her to lose the election. That was the "impact".

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Jan. 7, 2017 9:51 p.m.

    "So, where did these emails come from? Why, from the 'non-existent Russian hacks made available to WikiLeaks' which had "no affect" on the election. This rather tortuous explanation keeps poping up as a central reason for why Trump was elected. In other words, the primary evidence for Trump's becoming president-elect is the emails. The same emails the Russian government hacked and gave to WikiLeaks. Without them, much of the Trump campaign would have been lost."

    But there's no proof that the email hacks actually came from Russia.... Wikileaks says they didn't come from any national government.

    Besides, cyber security isn't exactly the Democrats' strong point.

    The bottom line is that the leaks exposed Democratic corruption, and Americans rejected it. Republicans knew all along about the corruption. Besides, didn't Hillary emphasize that her emails weren't hacked? Oops, I guess that's just another one of her lies!

  • Nichiro-san Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 7, 2017 3:31 p.m.

    at long last. . . - Kirksville , MO
    Jan. 7, 2017 8:38 a.m.

    No one is questioning the election of Donald Trump. They are concerned about Russian interference in the election to the extent of helping a specific candidate win the election. It is well known that Hillary Clinton questioned the legitimacy of the Russian election in 2011. Vladimir Putin took this to heart and appears to have worked to interfere with our election to keep Hillary from becoming President of the United States. On the way, he helped Trump win. There is no evidence of "tampering" with the voting process, but the effect of the email dumps by WikiLeaks, provided by now known Russian players, is obvious: Trump won by a small margin in the electoral college.

    Sure, Trump may have won on his own without Russian interference, but the Russians appear to have wanted to keep Hillary from winning and there actions helped in that. So, that is the substance of the current controversy. How this worked itself out in the minds of voters will be the subject of studies for years to come. However, the enthusiasm of specific people in condoning the Russian action is mind-boggling.

  • Tanguero Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 7, 2017 3:17 p.m.

    It appears from the latest intelligence briefing Donald Trump received from intelligence officials that he does not hearing information he does not want to hear. His response to the briefing that Russia hacked computer systems in the United States to influence the presidential election and there was malice directed at Hillary Clinton to undermine her presidential campaign in a direct attempt to help Trump get elected through a series of email dumps which were designed to raise doubts about the Clinton campaign in voters minds is very telling. Trump wants to believe that the Russians did not help him and refuses to acknowledge the information provided to him.

    He is now on a rant, using his preferred method of communication in 128 characters or less, to accuse his detractors and anyone else who is may question his denials of national security investigations of persecuting him. To think that we will have to put up with this for four years is mind-numbing. His advocates would crucify anyone who suggested that we reveal sensitive military strategy and tactics, now want similar details on sensitive intelligence information released to the public.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Jan. 7, 2017 11:22 a.m.

    I keep wondering how long it will be before those who voted for this "man" will begin to realize what a horrible mistake they made?

    And, when they do, will they actually admit it?

    Russian hacking may not have infiltrated any voting machines to change a ballot, but they certainly had an effect on the opinions of poorly educated and informed Americans. There is no way of telling how much influence hacking or a flood of Fake News sponsored by the Russians actually had on voters.

    But mark my words, we are going to pay a HUGE price for it.

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    Jan. 7, 2017 11:21 a.m.

    How can anyone state something of opinion as fact? Naturally Trump is trying to legitimatize his win and democrats are trying say legitimatize their loss.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    Jan. 7, 2017 10:31 a.m.

    Hillary, and the DNC rigged the system.

    They cheated America, and its people. Disrespected the United States of America and its election process.

    It could have been Bernie Sanders running against Trump, and winning the election, but that was stopped by dishonesty.

    Quit blaming the Russians!

  • catwoolf11 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 7, 2017 10:14 a.m.

    This morning my husband, politically the most centrist person there is, had one thing to say, "Why is he focusing on blaming the victim?" That's it in a nutshell. He's our president. His job is to protect us from hostile foreign powers, not defend them.

    We're missing a really important piece to this puzzle which is Trump's tax returns. We need to fully understand his international (and domestic) business entanglements. Maybe there's nothing there. Whether there's something there or not, we need to know. It's the right thing to do.

  • There You Go Again St George, UT
    Jan. 7, 2017 9:20 a.m.

    Trump says...

    If an American believes the opposite of whatever comes out of Trumps mouth, they are well on there way to the truth.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    Jan. 7, 2017 9:02 a.m.

    Hey at long last -

    "While not a Trump supporter, it is precious to see the rantings of the left on this column. Grow up people and accept that Trump was legitimately elected."

    How so?

    Donald Trump himself very publicly called for help from the Russians. He was quite content with our nation's enemies breaking our nation's laws to help him defeat Hillary Clinton.

    But now he says it never happened.

    And his apologists continue to parrot the same falsehoods put forth by their fearful leader.

    Face the facts . . . Putin, Russia, and Republican Trump supporters allied themselves together to ensure that Hillary Clinton, an excellent public servant, would lose to the most prolific cheat and liar to ever run for the Presidency.

    Putin knew how much a Republican in the White House would weaken America.

    There is nothing legitimate about Trump's election to the Presidency.

    It came about because of the lies and dirty tricks of Trump strategists . . . Both foreign and domestic.

    Russia won. America lost.

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    Jan. 7, 2017 8:38 a.m.

    While not a Trump supporter, it is precious to see the rantings of the left on this column. Grow up people and accept that Trump was legitimately elected. Personally, I am happy the Russians showed what dishonest low-lives run the Democrat party

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Jan. 7, 2017 8:25 a.m.

    Is this what worries him about this whole event, whether or not his 'big' win is in any way tainted by this interference?
    Where is his concern for the attack itself? He's the president elect, shouldn't he be disparaging foreign leaders who initiate any sort of attack on the sovereignty of the United States?

  • GingerMarshall Brooklyn, OH
    Jan. 7, 2017 7:57 a.m.

    One of the junior Trumps proudly proclaimed Russians were the biggest investors in TrumpCorp.

    His statements and external evidence point to well over half-a-billion Russian dollars in TrumpCorp.

    Current policy limiting Russia is harming Russian investors - the very people Trump owes more than $500,000,000.

    The bottom line: is Trump loyal to the country? Or is Trump loyal to the people who have invested in his company?

    Will a strong America directly benefit Trump? Or will a strong Russia benefit Trump? Will sanctions limiting Russia benefit Trump? Or will removing the sanctions and allowing Russian expansion and dominance benefit Trump?

    Every bit of evidence points to Trump and Russia working together to benefit Russia, because that benefits Trump.

    A minority of voters, many claiming to be "patriots," elected a Russian agent to the presidency, and the Electoral College went along with it.

    It may be too late, but Resist.

  • Something to think about Ogden, UT
    Jan. 7, 2017 7:16 a.m.

    Anyone who believes that the Russians did not "impact" the election results are living in denial.

    Regardless of how you feel about Trump or Clinton. It's clear that the information campaign by the Russians 'changed minds' at the ballot box.

    Mr. Trump will be our President. How you feel about that is up to each individual. Live with it, or celebrate it.

    But to say the Russian campaign had no bearing, again, absolute denial.

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    Jan. 7, 2017 7:08 a.m.

    @ marxist

    Read the report this morning. I was struck by how closely the messaging of the Russians aligned with Trump's campaign.

    I don't think it's possible to quantify the impact on actual votes without a detailed study of every prospective voter, including her/his social media habits. However, it can be said that having an impact was precisely Putin's intent and he has used this kind of strategy in the past, presumably because it had some success. So while the degree of impact can't be quantified, it is safe to say that it likely had some. And considering the narrow margin of victory in some states, even a small degree could've been decisive.

    However, I still place the lions share of the blame on a largely tone-deaf DNC and HRC. Despite all the opposition, they remained in control of their messaging and outreach, and they simply failed to accurately assess and respond to the environment at hand. To me, HRC ran like it was still 2008 - or even 1998. Yesterday's candidate for today's world.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Jan. 7, 2017 12:38 a.m.

    Hillary Clinton says Donald Trump is a 'puppet' of Vladimir Putin and Russia

    Mrs Clinton hit back, saying the question should be: why is Wikileaks, helped by Russian hackers, getting involved in the US election?

    Mr Trump's relationship with Mr Putin has been the subject of much scrutiny. He has said that Mr Putin is a better leader than Barack Obama, and commended his rule. Mr Putin has returned the compliment.

    “That’s because he’d rather have a puppet as president of the United States,” said Mrs Clinton.

    Mr Trump retorted that he was not friends with Mr Putin, and condemned any foreign interference in the election.

    “She doesn’t like Putin because Putin has outsmarted her every step of the way," he said.

    ========

    Wow.

    Trump begged the Russians to hack,
    they did,
    He's been caught red-handed,
    and now he denies it.

    And his treasonous lemming followers keep defending him and ussian the KGB over AMERICA.

  • RJohnson Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 7, 2017 12:28 a.m.

    @patriot

    "I say Wikileaks is heroic for exposing the dirty tricks of the Democrats."

    These sound more like the words of one complicit, perhaps inadvertently and indirectly, in an act of foreign espionage than a patriot.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Jan. 7, 2017 12:00 a.m.

    After intel brief, Trump says hack had no impact on election

    ====

    "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press," ~ Pres. Donald Trump July 7, 2016

    Treason!

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 6, 2017 10:15 p.m.

    Oh, and don't forget, Trump called on the Russians to hack Clinton. I heard with my own two ears.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 6, 2017 10:10 p.m.

    We all need to study this report carefully.

    From the report:

    “We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. We have high confidence in these judgments.”

    Make of this what you will. But for me, I think Putin's campaign was in fact the margin of victory for Trump in a razor thin victory.

    What do you think (when you have read the full report), Deseret News?

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    Jan. 6, 2017 9:43 p.m.

    "In accordance with the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the issues of foreign policy and defense are fully in the hands of the president."

    Vladimir Putin

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 6, 2017 9:15 p.m.

    The reality is we had 2 poor candidates. That in part stems from what it takes to get to the White House. It needs to not be for sale so that decent, responsible, level headed Americans with outstanding leadership skills that are not rich can get there.

  • Gus Talwynd Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 6, 2017 9:15 p.m.

    patriot - Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 6, 2017 3:08 p.m.

    " I say Wikileaks is heroic for exposing the dirty tricks of the Democrats. "

    Where are the hacks of the Republican National Committee. The Russians don't go half-way in their information gathering. Perhaps they wanted to destroy Hillary, but they would also want information on Donald Trump. I seriously doubt the RNC would know if their email server was hacked since phishing attacks generally go unnoticed until the email has been made public.

    Why do you praise a Russian collaborator for infiltrating the Democrats? Is this the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" talking here? Sounds very pro-Russian to me. It also shows you don't understand how the political game is played if you assume your people don't participate in "dirty tricks". Where have you been, unless you believe anything your side does is OK, anything the other side does is "dirty tricks"?

    Remember Trump's comments about WikiLeaks and Julian Assange in 2010? Surprising how a leopard can change its spots when it's convenient. I'd sure like to see what the Russians have on Trump. It'll makes good reading.

  • Cheshire Cat Bronx, NY
    Jan. 6, 2017 8:58 p.m.

    patriot - Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 6, 2017 3:08 p.m.

    Trump advocates are always referring to the emails released through WikiLeaks as evidence to support their voting for Donald Trump. We see this over and over. The emails were important in providing negative stories on an almost daily basis that "proved" their point that Hillary "lied" and was "corrupt". They cite the emails constantly, as readily seen in this thread.

    So, where did these emails come from? Why, from the "non-existent Russian hacks made available to WikiLeaks" which had "no affect" on the election. This rather tortuous explanation keeps poping up as a central reason for why Trump was elected. In other words, the primary evidence for Trump's becoming president-elect is the emails. The same emails the Russian government hacked and gave to WikiLeaks. Without them, much of the Trump campaign would have been lost.

    So, now Trump weakly acknowledges that "hacking" may have occurred, but still refuses to admit that it influenced the campaign even though he encouraged the hacking in his rallies and falsely infers that the intelligence community says there is not affect.

  • Cheshire Cat Bronx, NY
    Jan. 6, 2017 8:40 p.m.

    worf - McAllen, TX
    Jan. 6, 2017 5:03 p.m.

    "Hillary's untruthfulness, weak leadership, and dishonesty is what cost her the election."

    Trump campaigned on the WikiLeaks information as a primary source for his rallies. We will never know how things would have turned out had there not been the Russian hacks. Perhaps much of his speeches would have just been more racist screeds, but the intelligence community, despite Trump's claims, did not provide an assessment on the effectiveness of the Russian interference. They reported that it occurred, it was deliberate, and it was to diminish Hillary as a candidate.

    Why Trump continues in his crusade of disinformation remains unclear. He says that he admires the men and women who work in the intelligence community while at the same time saying he does not have any trust in them. The question is then, where is Trump getting his information? Trump, like Putin, wants to control information so no one can know what is really going on. It is how it is in North Korea. An information-deficient society is a society where tells you what is "true". This way you can't criticize it because you don't know differently.

  • Baron Scarpia Logan, UT
    Jan. 6, 2017 8:12 p.m.

    Give Donald a break! All this talk of Russian hacking. The Donald has more important business.

    In his barrage of tweets today, he was busy disparaging Gov. Schwarzenegger as the new replacement host of his TV show -- a successful immigrant! The Donald is clearly worried about the Celebrity Apprentice and its future ratings. As he tweeted before about the Russians, we should just move on. Clearly, we all hope The Donald will continue to watch Celebrity Apprentice to see how Arnold works out. We'll all be watching for his next Arnold tweet.

    If anything, attention on Celebrity Apprentice could delay The Donald's big plans to change the post-WWII world order of America's defending of democracy as he directs America to weaken NATO and abandon ties with eastern Europe so The Donald can join with Putin and recognize Russia's take-over of Crimea. Perhaps this is inevitable, but if Celebrity Apprentice can post-pone it, the better for the world!

  • SLars Provo, UT
    Jan. 6, 2017 8:09 p.m.

    Democrats still can't accept that they are responsible for the failure at the polls. Still no proof. Russia didn't need hackers, Hillarys servers were unsecured.

    The DNC was embarrassed over their actions with Bernie Sanders. Oh wait, that was the Russians also.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Jan. 6, 2017 7:02 p.m.

    For the last 8 years everything was Bush's fault. It seems for the next 4 years everything will be Russia's fault.

    Do we know that Russia actually hacked the DNC? That's still not proven.

    Do we know that Russia actually influenced the election? That's still not proven.

    What "fake news" came out as a result of Russia's attempt? Because I hate to break it to you, Hillary's inability to properly handle classified information is NOT fake news, nor is the fact that the DNC is corrupt.

    Who would be swayed by these attempts? The "stupidity of the American voter", which we now know Democrats tried to use to get the ACA to pass? Remember that these swing state voters voted for Obama last time.

    Calling Trump supporters a "basket of deplorables" certainly didn't help, either. Was that Russia's fault too?

  • Anti Bush-Obama Chihuahua, 00
    Jan. 6, 2017 6:57 p.m.

    I would take anything to keep the Democrats out of power. Hillary is the worst of the worst.

  • JBs Logan, UT
    Jan. 6, 2017 5:54 p.m.

    DJT is putting his ego and himself before his country. If he was not willing to give everything, he should not have run for this high office. Also, he is undermining the people who are charged with helping protect this country, those who risk their lives everyday on our behalf. His biggest risk seems to be mussing his hair. Heaven help us all.

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    Jan. 6, 2017 5:50 p.m.

    For someone who loudly complained the election was "rigged", and for someone who quoted WikiLeaks daily, it's disingenuous for Trump to say the hacking had no relevance.

    If Trump had lost, he'd be screaming like a baby!

  • worf McAllen, TX
    Jan. 6, 2017 5:03 p.m.

    Hillary's untruthfulness, weak leadership, and dishonesty is what cost her the election.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Jan. 6, 2017 4:56 p.m.

    Welcome to Trumpistan.

    Trump is first.
    Trump is second.
    Trump is third.

    Throwing himself on a grenade to protect America,
    the people,
    the place,
    our way of life,
    or the Constitution....means nothing in to Trump,
    this is Trumpistan!

  • JLindow St George, UT
    Jan. 6, 2017 4:56 p.m.

    "The report described a broad campaign that included covert operations, including cyberactivities, with “trolling” and “fake news.”" - New York Times

    It wasn't just about hacked emails, Deseret News.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Jan. 6, 2017 4:54 p.m.

    The urgency here is breathtaking.

    When were these messages hacked? August/September...and now the sky is falling? Even Obama admits to calling Putin on it back in September. Why weren't the diplomats sent home then? Where was the sanctions program?

    This wasn't a big issue until Hillary lost.

    This is an attempt to paint the Trump victory as illegitimate, at least in the minds of liberals.

    Clapper famously said that terrorists aren't 100 feet tall. That's too bad. Maybe he could have detected and stopped the San Bernardino massacre if only the perps were taller.

    Let's hope Trump is better at hiring problem-solvers instead of political hacks.

  • Prometheus Platypus Orem, UT
    Jan. 6, 2017 4:39 p.m.

    The man/child is a moron plain and simple.

    He wanted to win far more than be president, and now we have a "winner" who could care less about America. He is setting himself and family up to run the government as another Trump property, so it's not a good bet that his investment in America will be any more than another bankruptcy after he get his.

  • t702 Las Vegas, NV
    Jan. 6, 2017 4:29 p.m.

    Thanks to the Russians the Democrats finally achieved transparency!

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 6, 2017 4:04 p.m.

    "Before even seeing the classified intelligence report Friday, Trump dismissed the assessment and told The New York Times the focus on Russia's involvement is a "political witch hunt" by adversaries who are embarrassed they lost the election. "

    So before seeing the assessment Trump dismissed it. He must be clairvoyant.

    Let's all get a copy of this assessment in as much detail as we can get it. I suggest the Deseret News do likewise and report on it.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Jan. 6, 2017 3:45 p.m.

    The President elect's response is classic Trump. It always has, and will come down to him and his ego. He's a text book narcissist.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 6, 2017 3:36 p.m.

    This is a hundred times worse then any email server issue. Trump should resign because the evidence will only get worse. His main brain Hannity's Assange interview is a historic low point in journalism.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Jan. 6, 2017 3:11 p.m.

    The results, affected or not, are what they are. A larger number by a decent margin voted not for trump but our system gave him the 'win'. He gets to be president.
    As for whether or not the Russian hacking had an impact on the election, it's hard to see how the daily dumps of emails didn't have some effect and in any case whether they did or not there was a reason for the whole exercise and it wasn't transparency or someone having fun.
    In a larger context, I believe it is problematic that trump insists he gets to live in a reality of his own manufacture, let's call it 'denial'.
    While I believe in a healthy skepticism, I also believe one's own reality may not be healthy for a man in trumps' position. Churchill said "The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is."

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 6, 2017 3:08 p.m.

    what was the intel? Hillary Clinton and CNN worked together for her entire campaign AND her campaign manager made racist remarks against blacks and latinos. Those are all in the emails. So who was helped the most during the entire election year? Hillary Clinton had CNN in her pocket so advantage Clinton obviously. What seems to be so annoying the Democrats is that WE the people had no right to know about this dirty dealing. I beg to differ. I say Wikileaks is heroic for exposing the dirty tricks of the Democrats. This might have been illegal to make public these private emails but at the end of the day had the Democrats not done anything wrong then no harm done. But the Dem's were dirty and they GOT CAUGHT!!

    People already knew Clinton was dishonest with her email server scandall long before the election anyway.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    Jan. 6, 2017 3:03 p.m.

    After intel brief, Trump says hack had no impact on election

    =====

    Folks --
    We are about to have a President of the United States who is

    a) best case scenario -- a total lunatic living in his own alternate reality
    or
    B) worse case -- a manipulated treasonous puppet of the Russia KGB.