Just to get out of curmudgeonland to the real world for a bit ha ha...it's
2014 not 1954.Teens are often working jobs until late hours. Not
jobs to put a little gas in the car but jobs so their families can pay rent and
Can we assume that parents are responsible for how a household is run? Notice
that I didn't put an age limit on parental supervision. EVERYONE living in
our home had the same rules. We got up at 6:00 a.m. We had family activities,
including scheduling, family prayer and scripture study every morning. It
wasn't long, but it was consistent. Evenings were similar. Family dinner
every night together followed by minor chores (dishes, vacuuming, etc.).
Homework was done around the kitchen table where we could help each other.
Computer games were reserved for special occasions. The family set
the rules with major input from Dad and Mom. Even I, who many times worked
until 5:00 a.m. to finish a computer design or software, was required to be up
at 6:00 a.m.We believed that consistency was the basis for success.
Time will tell, but so far it is working with all children married and raising
their own families.
I'm interested to see if the study looked at technology and late nights.
Maybe they were accounted for. I think you have a good hypothesis. Did the
study already control for such things. If so, you may want to teach us why they
thought 8:30 start time was better instead of using a stawman argument.
I wonder about how much a lack of exercise impacts a teen's ability to fall
asleep at night. By exercise I mean hard physical exertion. Sweating/sore
muscles type of exercise. It used to be we needed our teens to help on the
farm, now we ask them to sit in a classroom for hours a day. Maybe their bodies
are build for more action.
I do think this article is addressing a problem that SOME of our teens have. I
also have a child like MNmamaof4, and have seen the effects of a child who has
trouble going to sleep, some of that was a side effect of a medication he was
on. But my oldest son had a problem entirely different. He was in mostly AR
classes his junior and senior years. To be competitive in his two favorite
colleges he also needed to be in a sport, he was very talented in cross country.
He would get out of school at 3:15, go straight to cross country and practice
with the team until about 5:30 or 6:00, come home, eat dinner, and do homework
until about 11:30 or midnight. He would wake up at 5 am and start all over
again. It was a very grueling schedule that he maintained for two school years.
He would have liked to have had a job, but there was no time for one. But for
some youth they juggle a job as well. So, I don't think the problem is
just with the lazy, tech-addicted teens. I think we have many issues that could
This article has a point, but not the complete picture. Do teen's brains
need to wind down and get rested? Absolutely. But electronics are not the only
culprit. I have seen my teen's sleeping patterns change in ways that can
only be blamed on body chemistry. She had a 7:00pm bedtime until age 6 when it
moved to 7:30. By 5th grade, it was 8:30. No electronic entertainment late on
school nights or in the bedroom. But guess what? About the time she turned 12,
she lost the ability to fall asleep early, even by 9:30pm. She was laying in
bed for HOURS until she fell asleep. When this started, I suggested reading, so
she reads until 11pm and then falls asleep. We have a similar routine on
weekends as weekdays, so that's not the problem, either. Now it's
starting with my almost 12 year old son. I didn't believe it until I had a
teen, but their sleep patterns DO change. It's not an excuse to let them
stay up all night. It's another reason to have routine. But late night
electronic entertainment is not the cause of every teen's sleeping trouble.
i concur whole heartedly!my 17 year old son worked construction the past
two summers. he would get up at 5:45am work a 10-12 hour day and be just fine.
of course, after working so hard, he would crash at night but he had good solid
sleep.now that school has started, he has a hard time "sleeping
in". he's simply in the habit of getting up early.i think many
teens are just not getting to sleep early enough which may be caused by lack of
exercise during the day making them tired enough to fall asleep as early as
would be useful.sorry, run on sentence..... turn off the "tube"
and go for a run! you'll sleep well tonight.
Great review - thank you for correcting the study - I agree with you. My
grandpa told me when I was younger - early to bed, early to rise, makes a man
healthy, wealthy & wise. I continue to live by this rule - along with my
family. Thanks grandpa -