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  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 25, 2014 8:35 p.m.


    What they don't say is that many of those "vacation days" the count for Bush weren't vacation days. They were days when he worked from Texas, which he often did. The liberal "fact checkers" websites even say "mostly true" to the number of days because in reality Bush spent far fewer days actually on vacation (I think the number was in the 80's, but I could be wrong).

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 23, 2014 8:33 p.m.


    So we are to excuse Obama and give him 5 or more years to fix problems, but Bush is allowed less than 8 months to fix things? I get it.

    I know, I know; it's all Bush's fault anyway (or Reagan's). I'm sure there's some way to blame Bush for the Ebola outbreak.

    @UT Brit

    Yes there might be some complaining about trading with terrorists for a journalist, but we shouldn't have to trade 5 senior military personnel. And trading 5 terrorist leaders for a deserter does seem really fishy, you have to admit.

  • UT Brit London, England
    Aug. 22, 2014 9:31 a.m.


    If Obama had traded for Foley you would have been complaining that they should not have done the trade. Probably trotted out "the USA does NOT negotiate with terrorists" line.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 22, 2014 8:17 a.m.

    Obama traded five terrorist for one Muslim loving democratic deserter......but refused to trade for a fine upstanding catholic journalist whose brother served in the military? Go figure!

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    Aug. 22, 2014 7:45 a.m.

    Hey Happy2bhere – “And Osama (I almost wrote Obama) was motivated to attack in part because he saw a weak American response by Clinton . . .


    That’s quite the fantasy you’ve spun there in blaming Clinton for 911, which occurred 8 months into GW’s Presidency.

    Basically what you’re saying is that GW and his Republican administration couldn’t get their act together in eight months well enough to protect this nation. I get it.

    In retrospect, that’s no surprise is it?

    GW couldn’t even get his act together well enough after EIGHT YEARS to do any good for this nation.

    Thanks for demonstrating my earlier point.

    “Conservative” leadership has steadily led this nation DOWNWARD for the last 30 years.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Aug. 22, 2014 12:29 a.m.

    Let's do it.

    Use the full force of our military, and take a week to finish ISIS.

  • intervention slc, UT
    Aug. 21, 2014 10:55 p.m.

    Seriously? The far right talking points really fall short here sorry. Isis was driven away from the siege and are continuing to bombed following this incident and I am pretty sure we are not dropping golf balls or apologies on empty fields or fund raisers. It really is time for some new talking points.

  • KJB1 Eugene, OR
    Aug. 21, 2014 6:57 p.m.

    According to The Washington Post:

    Vacation days taken by Bush in eight years: 879
    Vacation days taken so far by Obama: 150

    Don't you guys have any arguments less tired than this?

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 21, 2014 4:22 p.m.

    What are you going to do, BO, apologize them to death?

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 21, 2014 3:08 p.m.

    You're probably "really mad" just as you have been about the IRS, the VA, Fast and Furious, etc. After saying that you can go back to the fund raisers and your golf game.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Aug. 21, 2014 1:57 p.m.

    Hey Obama,

    Define justice.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 21, 2014 11:01 a.m.

    Obama rushes home from golf course to make speech.....then rushes back to Golf Course!

    FOREEEEEEEEEE....... Democrats, here comes November!

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 21, 2014 10:46 a.m.

    The Bipartisan Congress in 2001 along with the Administration of President Bush set up the process to help keep that from happening again. It was from determination and will of the people that the administration at that time set up procedures the previous administration of President Clinton hadn't established even though his Departments and Agencies knew of problems.

  • happy2bhere clearfield, UT
    Aug. 21, 2014 10:35 a.m.

    Gary O

    For the record my man, the plot to attack the World Trade Center was hatched by Bin Laden during the Presidency of one William Jefferson Blythe Clinton. And Osama (I almost wrote Obama) was motivated to attack in part because he saw a weak American response by Clinton when the Somolia Blackhawk down event occured. Plus, you might remember (but I wouldn't bet on it) that in fact the World Trade Center was first attacked in 1993. Clinton was President then too. And, (this is a big one) one reason the dots were not connected by our intelligence agencies to stop the attack was because, once again Clinton, put up a wall of seperation between the CIA, and FBI from sharing information. (Re: Jamie Gorelick) FBI agents had been informed of strange things by flight schools of men wanting to learn to fly a plane, but not wanting to learn to takeoff or land. That kind of info, given to proper sources in our govenrment like the CIA, may well have prevented the 911 attack. The 911 attack was plotted on Clintons watch. It would have happened the same way to President Gore.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    Aug. 21, 2014 10:06 a.m.

    Hey JWB – “This administration left our nation vulnerable to attacks . . . “


    You don’t see any huge skyscrapers knocked down by terrorists on Obama’s watch, do you?
    That only happens when “Conservative” Republicans, like GW Bush, are in power.

    GW was such a Reagan Conservative that he applied a laissez faire, let-the-country-run-itself approach to all aspects of government, including national security.

    . . . So of course the twin towers came tumbling down.

    “Real leaders sacrifice for the time they are in office.”

    Did GW Bush sacrifice while he was in office? No. And he made sure his rich friends didn’t sacrifice either.

    He lowered taxes for high earners, which is criminally irresponsible in war time. GW made sure that he and his rich friends sacrificed NOTHING, and just passed the cost of his war down to future generations.

    “Conservative” leadership has steadily led this nation DOWNWARD for the last 30 years.

    Obama’s administration is a breath of fresh air badly needed by an America smothering in “Conservative” ideology.

  • happy2bhere clearfield, UT
    Aug. 21, 2014 10:06 a.m.

    So, for all who wanted us TOTALLY out of Iraq, myself included, we (hopefully) now see the folly of that. Obama has clearly sent in ground forces, both to Iraq and now we find out Syria. This is the correct thing to do. Cutting and running only means more American heads will be cut off. Nice try to rescue the hostages, but I have to say once again we have either BAD INTELLIGENCE, (and where have we heard that before) or a major leak in our security and the ISIS knew we were coming and moved the hostages. Let's face it liberals and Rand Paul types. America cannot live as an isolated country. We must be prepared to use military force when necessary. Obama, maybe, has figured that out. So, let's all just admit that maybe Bush was not SO wrong, and maybe Obama is not SO wrong now either. I'm sure neither President wants to kill people, but you can't be President without that being a likely necessity.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Aug. 21, 2014 9:55 a.m.


    Talk big with a small stick.

    Justice to Benghazi, ISIS, and Mexican cartels.

    You can't rule from a golf course, or fund raising dinner.

  • intervention slc, UT
    Aug. 21, 2014 9:24 a.m.

    So Isis retreated from the hill they had siege over because we were hitting open fields? Your right it sound crazy.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 21, 2014 9:16 a.m.

    In Vietnam, they pulled out very similar to Iraq and we flew evacuation flights without fighter or other rescue support as they were gone. The Vietnamese aircraft were in disarray.

    Women are treated different in the part of the world away from the United States and women were not in combat arms in Vietnam.

    The treatment of men photographers is bad enough. It is supposed women would be treated differently by their captors in that situation.

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 21, 2014 8:56 a.m.

    After 6 years of soft talk on Islam, Barack Hussein now sides with George W. There are evil people in this world who only listen to scud missiles. Hey Barry, we are all glad you have finally learned that "evil" does exist in the world. Now go play so more golf...Martha's Vineyard is waiting.

  • UT Brit London, England
    Aug. 21, 2014 8:44 a.m.


    Errr what difference does it make if the pilot is a woman?

    Did you not have recovery teams when you were a pilot in Vietnam? Did all the shot down pilots just get left if they were shot down over North Vietnam?

    You might want to google United States Air Force Pararescue.

    For a pilot who flew over Vietnam you sure dont sound like you know much about pilot recovery. I think that would have been taught to you right?

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 21, 2014 8:42 a.m.

    Where is the best intelligence system of the world from the United States that is supposed to be the information process? We don't provide security for the world through our diplomacy or military.

  • Baccus0902 Leesburg, VA
    Aug. 21, 2014 7:42 a.m.

    @ DN SUbscriber, Riverton Cougar, Worf

    Mr. James Foley was a journalist who put himself in danger so we could know what was going on in the heart of the conflict in Syria and ISIS.

    I think we should honor his memory by getting informed in order to reach balanced conclusion and hopefully we can have the ability to make objective statements.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 21, 2014 7:30 a.m.

    Having been in Vietnam as a pilot, what happens to a pilot that is possibly shot down? Do we have the logistical support and fortitude to get the pilot? What if it was a woman pilot? Would we allow her to be like the photographer the other day? A pilot in that part wouldn't have the ability to escape and evade as in other place. Will the pilot be shot down with weapons we provided to the Iraq cause and left in a hurry without them?

    This administration left our nation vulnerable to attacks with a community organizer who felt our country had done most of the governance wrong historically before he took office. His wife felt it was the first time she felt proud of America when he got his Nobel peace prize even prior to taking office. Peace comes with a price and real leaders know that. Vacations for 8 years at our expense is a very high price. Real leaders sacrifice for the time they are in office.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    Aug. 21, 2014 6:58 a.m.

    Hey DN Subscriber –

    “Ooooh, I bet the ISIS guys are really afraid now.”

    No, they’re looking forward to entering paradise. And No Drama Obama who got Osama is happy to show them the way.

    "Speak softly and carry a big stick"

    It’s too bad “Conservatives” can’t follow TR’s advice.

    Conservative “leadership” has us screaming at the top of our lungs and carrying a huge log over our heads that crushed when we stumbled.

    That’s what GW did to us in Iraq.

    Foolish and arrogant “Conservative” Leadership does this nation no good.

    “Cutting our military” is sensible. It’s a huge financial burden for us. And “restrictive rules of engagement” reassure our allies.

    Our allies don't want to be friends with a bully that willfully disregards good sense and engages in unprovoked attacks and occupations of other nations.

    That’s why world sentiment turned against GW Bush and the United States.

    As long as US foreign policy completely IGNORES the will of American “Conservatives,” at home, this nation will do just fine.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Aug. 21, 2014 1:16 a.m.



    What damage are these airstrikes doing?

    Can we really assume it's hurting ISIS?

    Or are we just hitting open fields, just to say we're having airstrikes?

    Sounds crazy, but that's what Clinton did in (if I remember right), Bosnia.

  • Californian#1@94131 San Francisco, CA
    Aug. 21, 2014 12:58 a.m.

    "When people harm Americans, anywhere, we do what's necessary to see that justice is done."

    Indeed, a country does have a duty to protect its people and bring to justice those who harm its citizens, including those who have traveled thousands of miles from home for legitimate reasons.

    Does this mean U.S. leaders will lay off Israel for taking proactive steps to protect its people who are being harmed in their own towns within the borders of their own small sovereign nation? Residents of Beersheba and Hebron are trying to live in their own country with mortal enemies, infiltration tunnels, and rocket launchers as close to them as the White House is to Baltimore. If American politicians take military action to protect Americans overseas, and are not comfortable with the idea of enemy vessels floating on Chesapeake Bay, they need to shut up with the criticism of Israel for simply trying to survive as a nation.

  • intervention slc, UT
    Aug. 20, 2014 10:26 p.m.

    @dn subscriber
    "As Obama spoke, U.S. forces launched 14 new airstrikes against the Islamic State....Obama stressed that U.S. airstrikes would continue..." At least pretend to have read the article before posting. There is a reason the rest of the far right posters are avoiding this thread the article does not fit there false narrative of a do nothing president.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 20, 2014 10:07 p.m.

    How can we turn this into a way to help the Democrats take back the House and keep the Senate? Nothing? In that case, I'll make a 2-minute remark about this and stopping ISIS and then back to golf.

  • USA Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 20, 2014 9:58 p.m.

    Just ask Osama Bin Laden.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 20, 2014 9:02 p.m.

    Ooooh, I bet the ISIS guys are really afraid now.

    Unfortunately, Obama's loud talk while cutting our military and imposing extremely restrictive rules of engagement will not scare our enemies or reassure our allies.

    Teddy Roosevelt's "Speak softly and carry a big stick" advice was far more effective.