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Published: Friday, Aug. 15 2014 6:05 p.m. MDT

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SLars
Provo, UT

The media needs to clean up their act. "An attorney for the teen who was with Brown" the teen with Brown was 22 years old. Brown at 18 would be considered an adult. After seeing pictures of him abusing the store clerk, he was a very big 18 year old.

Why sensationalize the story when you know it's going to fan the flames and spark more violence?

Kora
Cedar Hills, UT

Why are there never protests in the community over gang violence or black on black crimes? Why do the "Leaders of the Black Community" like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton not show up in response to those issues? Why is it they only care about situations that can stir up racial tension against whites?

People are always quick to attack when all of the facts are not known, but slow to apologize, if they apologize at all, if they are proven wrong. This was the case with the Duke Lacrosse team and numerous other situations. The young black men/women are always the victims and the white individual is always an evil, racist bigot. Even if it is a shooting involving a black police officer it is made to be racism.

Unfortunately many young black males are killed in the USA every year. The vast majority of the time it is the result of criminal activity on the part of the same or another young black male. Someone besides Bill Cosby needs to stand up to the community or it won't get solved. It should be our President, but it won't. He seems to enjoy racial politics.

intervention
slc, UT

@kora

Because acts of violence by criminals is not the same as a police related shooting. Criminals are just that were as police officers are entrusted with the publics safety, not hardly the same thing. Having said that i think they should have waited to release the officers name until the investigation is concluded and I think people need to wait for the investigations which have been started to conclude before condemning this officer

OHBU
Columbus, OH

re: Kora
For the same reason there would not be a big interest in a story of two teenagers at school fighting each other, but it would be a big story if a teacher took a swing at a student. Police officers have a position of trust and authority, and it's the abuse of that power which gets people upset. People are protesting and raising awareness because they don't want the police to be able to do their own internal investigation, which over 99% of the time comes back with the officer being cleared of any wrongdoing.

Obviously, this is stirring up the same arguments as the Zimmerman trial. Guilt or innocence of Zimmerman aside, during the course of that, two white men were arrested for killing a black man. Did you hear about it? No--people didn't protest because the man was arrested and it felt like justice was being served. The protests weren't about the violence, but the lack of arrest. When two gang members fight and one is arrested, justice is being served.

Match44
Salt Lake City, ut

c/p "He stopped the wrong one, bottom line," yelled Tatinisha Wheeler, a nurse's aide at the news conference.

It's this type of knee-jerk reaction that started all the post-shooting violence in the first place. There has to be a point where people accept responsibility for their actions. Unfortunately, in this type of situation, it rarely happens. They will maintain their opinion despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

prelax
Murray, UT

@SLars

The media are like arsonists, they like to start fires, only they use it to sell their product.

We will never be able to get past racism in this country (from all sides) until the media gets past it. (along with race and ethnic organizations).

God bless Bill Cosby for telling it like it is.

FDRfan
Sugar City, ID

Watch the spin develop on this. Some people cannot be shamed.

Kronk
Blackfoot, ID

I wonder why the most important sentence in the article was left till the last paragraph. "One of the men pushed the officer into his squad car, then physically assaulted him in the vehicle and struggled with the officer over the officer's weapon." That certainly casts the incident in a different light than just randomly shooting a man because he runs from the police. Shooting an unarmed man who is trying to take the officer's gun? That's not the same as shooting someone who runs away from a police officer. Rather than riot, we should wait to see what more details the investigation shows. Two wrongs don't make a right.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Wow!

Twenty eight blacks were shot by other blacks during this same weekend in Chicago.

Blacks are safer in Afghanistan then in Chicago.

Where are Obama, Sharpton, Holder, and Jesse Jackson on this?

My2Cents
Taylorsville, UT

If the accounts of this artilce and police statement is true then the witness are all after the fact and seen nothing until it was all over. The two young men knew they had committed a felony assault and robbery and were behaving in the manner of thieves when they were confronted by other officers unaware of their felony robbery. Their behaviors to ignore and defy the officers with physical attacks to them upon arrest has justified the death of another thief who happens to be black and not white or mexican.

Apparently all accounts of the events being reported by the news media have been inaccurate and incited this riot and looting and pilfering. The actions of the news media would justify further investigation of their intentional misinformation. I think the news media should be targeted by insurance companies for causing the riot and all the losses to business and law enforcment. In this city the media was very disrespectful and not just writing a story but creating a story of lies and misinformation and they should be held accountable for their willful acts of terrorism.

Treyvon's lawyer is an racist interstate ambulance chaser now.

intervention
slc, UT

@worf

Wow!

So rather then address the comments above that already addressed this faulty reasoning you are going to repeat it?

Sven
Morgan, UT

@Kora

I posted this on another thread:

“There are those that are saying ‘peace,’ but they really just mean ‘quiet.’ Because in order to establish peace you must have fair justice for everyone. We want real peace. We don’t want to just be told to shut up and suffer in silence. We must have answers.”

Rev. Al Sharpton, Ferguson, Mo.
August 14, 2014

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Once again the Rev. Al Sharpton asserting himself into a situation where he knows absolutely none of the facts. All he knows is that a white cop shot a black 18 year old. For Al, that’s more than enough to trump up bogus charges of institutional racism. He has a history of creating racial tensions based on lies.

This is the same Reverend Sharpton who helped Tawana Brawley trump up bogus charges that 6 white men raped her, some of whom she claimed were police officers. He also supported Crystal Gail Mangum in her bogus allegations that members of the Duke Lacrosse team raped her.

Hey Al, was it fair justice for the police officers and the Duke Lacrosse players you falsely accused?

Like these other cases, the real facts will are coming forth.

worf
Mcallen, TX

@intervention,

Do you honestly believe Al Sharpton, Obama, and the others, really care about Michael Brown?

Why Michael Brown and not:

* the many killed in Chicago, and other cities in America?
* the ranchers on the southern borders killed by Mexican cartels.

Broaden your mind, look at the big picture, and do some homework. Michael Brown is a pawn, and some people are foolishly following like sheep.

OHBU
Columbus, OH

@worf:

Not only did I already address why people get upset and people make an issue of things like police riots vs. inner-city violence, but you are also making patently false assumptions:

Al Sharpton has sponsored town hall meetings and made numerous statements about the violence in Chicago: "We cannot have a country where in one of its largest cities, people are saying we're used to seeing people die..."

Likewise, Obama's addressed it numerous times, including in the State of the Union: "This is not just a gun issue. It’s also an issue of the kinds of communities that we’re building, and for that we all share a responsibility as citizens to fix it."

As you may recall, and I know you've made fun of, Obama also spent time as a community organizer (refusing much higher-paying jobs for a Harvard lawyer) in Chicago specifically hoping to work on the racial tensions and violence there.

I understand it's a conservative truism that these leaders don't care about the violence in Chicago, but in truth, their actions and words show the contrary.

worf
Mcallen, TX

OHBU,

Chicago doesn't get the press coverage Ferguson has. Neither the murders of south Texas ranchers by cartels.

The releasing of 36,000 convicted prisoners, and opening the southern borders, is adding to our country's crimes, and has little press coverage, or mention from Sharpton.

Sorry, but Obama, and Obama are just stirring the pot, and has you fooled.

It's not what they say, but what they do.

OHBU
Columbus, OH

So by your logic, because Obama's (many) comments on Chicago (which dwarf those on Ferguson) don't get the media coverage, it's his fault? You say it's only about actions, but how have his actions indicated in any way he cares more about Ferguson than Chicago? All I've seen in your string of comments is empty accusations that you haven't backed up one whit.

Who is stirring the pot more, Obama for deigning to actually comment on a major issue, or people attempting to blame every single social issue on the man?

How about the Ranchers. Did you know (facts are fun)that Obama has doubled the number of border security agents under his administration? In other words, he saw the violence at the border and responded (remember, actions matter) by attempting to reinforce those taking on the violence.

Again, who's stirring the pot? Obama, for taking action to stop the violence, or those that accuse him of not caring by spreading deliberate falsehoods?

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