One day, we'll let Him decide the matter. What "churches",
"civil rights groups" or "polls" say will NOT matter one iota.
It will be an interesting day.
@RedWings;Speaking your opinion in public and doing everything in
your power to deny equality to other citizens is not tolerance.Calling you on the bigotry (yes, it is bigotry) is not "hate speech",
nor is it "religious bigotry".
Red Corvette: "I am guessing they include every Mormon stake and ward in
Ohio"I sure hope so! That is true freedom in action. People
getting out and voicing their opinion and belief in the public square. We are
all citizens, and we all have a right to speak.Of course, this is
not the way of the far left. Name-calling, religious bigotry, and hate-speech
against anyone that dares to disagree with the left is common. Too bad they
never looked up the definition of tolerance....
@A Quaker I used to live right of 5th Avenue the church on the corner
would not only have a group march they served water and treats to participants
as they passed by to keep them going, such a different world and so much
healthier attitude towards others.
The article cites an opponent of marriage equality saying "10,000
churches" in such a way to imply that that's all the churches in Ohio.
That turns out not to be true. There are many churches in Ohio who SUPPORT
marriage for LGBT people.For those who think 10,000 churches is a
lot, that's about how many houses of worship we have just in
"heathen" New York City, including churches, synagogues, mosques,
temples and meeting houses.Among these are more than a few who
support marriage equality, who include gay congregants as full equals, and who
practice Christ's admonition (or their own religion's equivalent) to
love God and to love one's neighbor as one's self. Many of these
fielded groups to march down NYC's 5th Avenue in support of LGBT rights
this summer, in front of two million cheering witnesses.It's
not just gay people who support gay rights. It's also brothers, sisters,
parents, coworkers, fellow congregants, friends and neighbors of gay people.
Their equality is our equality. Our God is their God. Oppressing them
True to form, the Deseret News mentions 62% support for the ban in 2004, but
fails to mention a poll this year shows Ohioans now favor marriage equality 50%
to 43%. If trends continue, equality will win handily when this goes to the
polls. Even in Utah, support has reached 41%.The case before the
6th Circuit this week, would be the first since Windsor to rule against equality
if it did so. It's a a conservative court and panel. So it is the court,
so far, most likely to rule against equality -- although the 5th Circuit is more
conservative still. That being said, of the last 23 cases the 6th has ruled on
that went to the Supreme Court, 22 have been overturned. So whatever they
decide, won't be a great indicator of results in the highest court.In the, no matter how the courts rule, public opinion is shifting on
this issue VERY quickly. Voters are likely to pass equality in state after
state unless the courts beat them to it.
Article: "'We will continue to collect and put the issue before
voters, so that LGBT families have the freedom to marry and houses of worship
have the freedom to perform a marriage,' James said."Important point. This paper has made religious liberty a major theme of its
editorializing and reporting, but it has completely ignored those churches that
are prevented from freely exercising of their faith by performing same sex
Both houses of the Nevada Legislature voted to overturn the anti-Gay Marriage
statute. The majority of Nevada residents want to allow same-sex marriage. It
looks like a lot of other states who once passed these bans have changed their
minds as well. I think it would be a good thing for the voters to
look at this again. I doubt even Utah would vote again to ban "civil
unions" even if they still balked at full marriage equality. I believe a
Deseret News Poll in January put those in favor of allow Civil Unions at 57%
while Amendment 3 still bans it.