Just curious do we have a dictatorship or a government with three distinct
branches that have the ability to provide checks and balances over each other.
The majority of you blame President Obama for every problem as if he were the
dictator and hold the congress blameless or I guess more accurately the House of
Representatives who when they do pass legislation pass bills that are DOA in the
Senate and they know it. How about the congress (you know the folks that are
suppose to write the laws) get together and write legislation that solves this
problem. If it already exists and the President is refusing to enforce it, then
that is high crimes and treason and the House should start impeachment
proceedings. Simple concept. The problem is the House has no backbone, all
they can do is play Monday morning quarterback and then go on vacation.
@midwestmomDo you really think that law breaking is excused by
Usually one of the worst phrases in any situation is "well - we gota do
something". What that translates to is you have no idea what to do so you
just do something - right or wrong - and most of the time any situation is then
made even worse. The better course to follow usually is to step back - rethink -
and then do the RIGHT thing even if it is harder. Ted Cruz had the right plan
for the border and that was to undo this law that allows illegals from
non-border countries to stay here because the law is being abused by bad
political players for personal gain. Cruz's law would allow the US border
agents to stop the flow of these illegals immediately and then return them to
their families in Central America SAFELY. That is a good plan where both sides
win. However with the corrupt and weak leadership in congress we have along with
the terrible White House leadership we have a reasonable solution like Cruz
proposed is not going to win ...too much selfish corrupt political players in
America today for common sense to win out.
@Midwest Mom:"Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto
you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to
me."But money changers get His whip (Matthew 21:12-15)@JoeCapitalist2:"Obama doesn't want to enforce ANY of our
immigration laws."Barack Hussein Obama is using/hiding behind
children to accomplish his shameful goals... not unlike the despicable Hamas
terrorists in Gaza. They both musta learned the tactic from the hateful Mongol
terrorist, Genghis Khan.
Tolstoy,I was not suggesting that Obama break the law. But you act
as if the 2008 law is the only one that applies to the flood of illegals
crossing our border.Obama doesn't want to enforce ANY of our
immigration laws. Even adults from Mexico who sneak across carrying drugs and
then commit other crimes here in the U.S. are not being deported. Those cases
have absolutely nothing to do with the human trafficking law, yet Obama still
will do nothing while claiming his hands are somehow tied.He wants
amnesty for everone. Why should pesky things like laws get in his way?
Behold your dysfunctional government!President Obama calls criticism of
his policies hate. (What an ego.) The House creates a bill that fails to stop
the current influx of children while adding new barriers to deportation. And
they wonder why it failed.But that is the MO of immigration programs.One would have thought that Obama (as the one man charged with enforcing our
laws) would have seen this problem coming and stopped it at the border when it
reached 8,000 children. But he didn't. Instead he ran an ad in January to
hire more escorts for children.So, now we have a 57,000 children problem,
projected to be a 120,000 person problem.If you managed problems at YOUR
job that way, you'd be out of work.Way back in 1965, Ted
Kennedy said the new immigration policy would only add 5,000 new immigrants a
year. But year one saw an increase of 92,000. Year two added 93,000. And we
never looked back.When the situation started to get out of hand Washington
did nothing...just like they are doing now.Meanwhile, the media
shamelessly blames the tea party.
"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye
cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no
drink:I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed
me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.Then shall they
also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a
stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye
did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.And
these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life
eternal."(Matthew 25:41-46)"I like your Christ.
I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
Why in heaven's name does the US have to intercept illegals at the border,
take them in, give them room and board, ship them to relatives in the US (likely
illegal) get them a lawyer, give them amnesty while they wait a hearing, get
them a job, etc., all at taxpayer expense? Just let them come in and fend for
themselves. No citizenship, no amnesty, no food stamps, no government handouts,
no free education, and no jobs. They will soon see that they're not
welcome and just go home (at their own expense). And, perhaps it will send a
message that, if you wanna come to the US and become a citizen, do it the right
way... fill out the requisite paperwork and get in line.
@Mountanman:What good will more laws do when Obama refuses to enforce the
ones we already have? Obama will not do his job to secure the borders!"Barack Hussein Obama doesn't need more laws. He has a phone and a
pen. That's all he needs. What's all the belly-aching about?
@TolstoyIt's not a loophole, it's part of the law. We
don't need a new law, Obama would just enforce what he wants any way. The
law, as written, allows him to send the children home to their parents without a
court date. It should not be used for children who's parents have paid
$5000-10,000 to smuggle them here. That is not human trafficking. For that much
money they could have come here legally.
Hey JoeCapitalist2 -"We need to enforce our current laws . .
" . . . which is impossible to since sequestration (which is still in
effect) forced upon us by Republicans, has whittled away billions from the
border enforcement budget.A new law would provide the necessary
funding.In other words, ridiculous "Conservative" Tea-Party
obstructionism has succeeded once again in harming America and Americans.The Republican Party is America's Enemy Number ONE.
TolstoyGiving amnesty and not enforcing laws is one thing. Enforcing the law correctly is another. The bill is for human trafficking not
human smuggling, there is a difference, he is not enforcing the law correctly.
There are no loopholes, it specifies who it covers, and gives a out in case of
exceptional circumstances, ask Democrat Nancy Pelosi. In one case,
he is making his own laws, and so far his actions with the children show him not
correctly enforcing another. He is wrong in both instances. We can
and do ask him to follow the law in both instances.
@RRBthe key word there is "loophole" again you cannot vote
to sue one day for not following the laws you pass then expect them to use
"loopholes" the next day when you fail to pass a new law to fix the
problems with the old one you passed.
interventionHe is following his interpretation of the law. It's for
human trafficking, not human smuggling. Also the law has a loophole that allows
his administration to deport without trial during "exceptional
circumstances". Even Democratic leaders have called for him to enact the
"exceptional" provision that already exists. It requires no executive
Democrats forget they tried to impeach GW Bush. The bill failed
because the house members don't trust Obama and what he will use the money
for. Illegal immigration has turned into a poison pill for November's
election. On the bright side, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Rep.
Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.) have introduced legislation that would go after the
root of the border crisis -- Pres. Obama's executive amnesties and threats
of future ones.
It's not the illegals that will swing an election it's the millions of
the fastest growing segment of our society that will. The American hispanic
community feels threatned by the GOP and their myopic witch hunts. I want our
borders closed off as much as anyone but to think one man can do it with the
current resources at hand is ridiculous. Bottom line is the GOP and the Tea
Party continue to lose national elections because of events like today. They
simply cannot find their own way out of the little tent they live in. Reagan
helped cultivate a big tent party that won national elections. The tea party is
living in a pup tent.
@mountainman please provide any actual proof you have that Obama is not
enforcing the 2008 law.@joe capitalist Even the fox news talking
heads admit you cannot really vote to sue the president claiming overreach one
day then the next day blame him for not taking action beyond the letter of the
JoeCapitalist is spot on! If these illegals voted for the GOP, you would see
Obama shut down the border in a heartbeat! It would be a most serious crisis!
More money so Obama can make a better "welcome mat" for people breaking
our laws?Boehner needs to go, he is no more a leader than Obama.
intervention: "Obama is enforcing the law congress passed in 2008 when it
comes to this issue..."Yep. You are right. Obama's hands
are completely tied and he can't do anything other than what he is
currently doing...right?There is a problem with that 2008 law that
is being exploited by Obama and his illegal alien friends and Congress should
pass a bill that would fix the problem (assuming Harry Reid would allow a vote
in the Senate on anything coming out of the House).But if anyone
thinks that Obama's attitude and his enforcement wouldn't do a 180
turn if all these illegals wanted to join the Tea Party, then you are in denial.
Not wanting to be hypocritical, I would also freely admit that if that were the
case then a whole bunch of GOP members would quiet down considerably about
@ Intervention & FT: Obama is enforcing none, zero, zip, nada of our
existing immigration laws. If you don't believe it, go to Texas, So.Cal or
Arizona as see for yourself! Illegals are streaming across our border at will
and the majority of them are getting on taxpayer funded welfare programs!
That's why the come! But they will make nice government dependent Democrat
voters won't they?
@Worf-"What good will more laws do when Obama refuses to enforce the
ones we already have? Obama will not do his job to secure the borders!"The GOP's ability to get things done within their own party is what this
is all about. Outside of a few right wing, uncomprimising radicals nobody can
blame Obama on the GOP's inability for them to pass a bill in the very
branch of Congress they control. It's also ironic that the State of
Texas is on the front line of this mess and their own Senator is the one
restricting any immeadiate federal response to the situation. It's poetic
@moutainmanObama is enforcing the law congress passed in 2008 when it
comes to this issue if congress wants it handled differreny perhaps they should
change the law rather then blame Obama for yet another one of their many
failures to get anything done. If the GOP ever wants to be relevant again they
are going to have to dumb the tea party once and for all.
We need to:1) Enforce our current laws. Passing another law does
absolutely no good if the president refuses to enforce any laws that might curb
the flow of democrat voters (..errr, illegal aliens) across our southern
border.2) If there is a real problem with any of our laws (e.g. the
current loophole that says anyone who steps into this country from Central
America gets a long "due process" stay here), then fix it with a real
bill that actually addresses the problem. What we need least of all is some bill
that does nothing to secure the border, throws a lot of money at it, and just
lets everyone go home and tell their constituents that they "did
something" even if that something was bad.
And Congress' job is to take the next six weeks OFF? They're already
suing Obama for doing "too much", while they've done less than any
Congress in decades. Does that mean they are HAPPY with things, or that
they're pouting in the corner hoping no one notices?
What good will more laws do when Obama refuses to enforce the ones we already
have? Obama will not do his job to secure the borders!