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Published: Friday, July 25 2014 8:00 a.m. MDT

Updated: Wednesday, Aug. 13 2014 2:36 p.m. MDT

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John Charity Spring
Back Home in Davis County, UT

The only thing surprising about this poll is that anyone is surprised that today's young people have contradictory and even hypocritical political views.

Today's young people want politicians who advocate individual pleasure over responsibility. They want the ability to engage in unrestrained use of alcohol, marijuana, and recreational sex. In addition, they demand that the government force the taxpayers to fund birth control to make it all possible.

Essentially, what they demand is a political system of entitlements. They believe that, simply because they exist, they are entitled to have their every want and need provided by the government.

FT
salt lake city, UT

@John Charity Spring
"Today's young people want politicians who advocate individual pleasure over responsibility. They want the ability to engage in unrestrained use of alcohol, marijuana, and recreational sex. In addition, they demand that the government force the taxpayers to fund birth control to make it all possible."

That's surely not the young people I know and work with. I feel our country is in very good hands with today's youth. I have more concern about our older, Faux News, citizens who want no personal freedoms for anyone else while demanding politicans protect their monthly social security stipend.

Mickie
SLC, UT

I feel that if you polled any generation you'd find contradictory views in the overall percentages.

That being said, the most interesting find was education's effects on political persuasion. More education = more liberal. I know I've found that to be true in my own education. Learning about diversity and the plights of different groups (groupings such as: race, class, religion, and sexuality) helped me to understand them better (though I know I can always strive to understand more). Understanding brings my desire for social change so that some groups aren't inherently advantaged over others.

I wish everyone took a slew of differing diversity classes. The more you know, the better decisions you can make. And hey, after someone has done a deep dive into learning about a group and their struggles if they still want to discriminate or keep that group at a disadvantage at least we'd know they made that decision conscientiously.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

Ages 18-29 voted 48% for Al Gore
Ages 18-29 voted 58% for Barrack Obama
Ages 18-29 voted 60% to re-elected Obama

Not because they "like" Democrats,
but becuase they "DIS-Like" the Republicans!

That should be saying something.

The trend continues....

The GOP is loosing the --

Black,
Hispanic,
Asian,
Women,
Gay / Lesbian,
and
the Young People.

and they have no-one else to blame but themselves...

Mark B
Eureka, CA

Yet another group for whom JCS has little respect - people younger than himself. He has made them feel the wrath of several generalizations, and plans to go right on shaking his finger in their general direction.

intervention
slc, UT

@jcs

The wording of this headline is very poor, what the study shows is that like any generation not people from that generation think a like they are a diverse group with diverse ideas but don't let that stand in the way of your moral outrage.

Spangs
Salt Lake City, UT

This might be the first time I have seen a comment from John Charity Spring.
To see it hurts, because I know that there are thousands of Utahns who believe exactly what he wrote. In fact, I suspect that this type of sentiment is much more pervasive than most millennials would want to believe. Franky, it's unfair and unhelpful. Millennials have many challenges ahead of them. But nobody should be under the impression that John Charity's generation did them any favors.

That generation (baby boomer?) certainly left the world worse off than when they found it. That generation certainly can't claim the moral high ground here. In fact, I would wager that there were more abortions, drug use, government entitlements per capita amongst that generation than there are amongst Millennials.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

This is why Huntsman would make a strong general election candidate for the Republicans.

@JCS
"The only thing surprising about this poll is that anyone is surprised that today's young people have contradictory and even hypocritical political views."

I'm pretty sure you think the deficit is a major problem that needs to be addressed and support tax cuts.

RedWings
CLEARFIELD, UT

Each generation adds its part to the increasing selfishness and general lack of moral values. While there aree certainly many individuals within wach generation that are selfless and moral, as a society we get worse with eahc generation.

This may stem from a higher tolerance for selfichness and immorality in the prior generation. For example, I have seen parents justify buying their teenagers alcohol and letting them throw parties at theie house because "they are going to drink anyway, so they may as well drink at home".

The slide may look gradual, but the result is frightening.....

blackattack
Orem, UT

I'm a millennial and was raised by good baby-boomer parents who were responsible and taught me to be so. I dislike when our generation is labeled as "lazy", entitled basement dwellers who play video games all day. There always seems to be a pessimistic view of the younger generation. Painting with a broad brush is unfair to those who work hard to make our world better.

There were bad decisions made by some influential baby boomers: Free love and drugs, two wars that have left many millennials dead, the worst recession since the 1930s, fewer jobs and lower salaries, exponential rises in healthcare and college costs, abortion and no-fault divorce laws, and a self-esteem movement that encouraged entitlement.

However, there are many baby boomers who do indeed make our world better. It's never fun to be stereotyped though.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

I think one of the most telling things about the study was that only 16% of millennials actually know what socialism is. The ironic thing is that a majority support capitalism and want to be the heads of corporations and make profits. If so few know what socialism is, and knowing that they are socially liberal, it is easy to convince them to support any public program you want. You just have to tell them that is for everybody's good, and that it will somehow be paid for.

intervention
slc, UT

@blackattack

Try not to take it personal. Sadly as you very wisely noted older gereations tend to view the younger generations very negatively, that is nothing new, but the facts speak clearly for themselves with each passing generation we slowly move towards a more fair and just society, this coupled with the fact that crime and abortion rates are very low shows the positive trend that your generation is very much a part of. There will always be a few "bad seeds" in each generation but my experience with your generation has left me feeling very good about the future of our country and our world.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

@RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT
I think one of the most telling things about Conservatives is that 100% of them will all trash talk -- but will sign-up and accept Social Security & Medicare, call 911 for Fire or Police Departments, attend Public school and Libraries, and drive on roads, drink water, and use the intenet, and have Families -- Socialism.

Bob K
Davis, CA

@JCS and other typical DN commenters who have not yet chimed in to this topic...

-- Out here in the rest of the world, even those like me who are pushing 70, are surprised to read pretty much what we heard when Bob Dylan and the Beatles were being criticized 50 years ago. It's probably what was written about the "flappers and sheiks" in 1925.

I wonder if these comments are posted by the great-grandchildren of the guys who originally made them, just to mess with us? Or is Utah somehow conducive to living in a time warp?

RSL*
Why, AZ

The thing we need to remember about Millennial's is that the older generation made them this way.

the truth
Holladay, UT

@Open Minded Mormon

NONE of what you described is actually socialism.

Which proves the graphic that only 16% know what socialism is.

Anti Bush-Obama
Chihuahua, 00

Liked all the yellow I saw. I hope more people will wale up and realize that All Obama ever was is a clone of Bush. He has just duped his cult followers into thinking his policies are different when they are exactly the same. I dont know why Conservatives love Bush, he was more liberal than Clinton because he tripled the size of Government. The next president will be worse than obama unless they are libertarian.

The Judge
Kaysville, UT

Millennials are what you get after a generation of not teaching history. Generally speaking (certainly not all of you, blackattack), millennials have no idea of the principles upon which the country is based. They have no notion of the failures of socialism world wide, or the economic education to understand that the way to end poverty is capitalism.

In my office I have a piece of the Berlin wall. In the course of my work I have dozens of high school students come to see me. It's frightening how many of these juniors and seniors ask about the piece of concrete on my desk, and stare at me blankly when I tell them it's a part of the Berlin Wall. They've never heard of it. And they've never heard of the horrors of socialism, because, as someone pointed out, we failed to teach them.

Cincinnatus
Kearns, UT

Why doesn't it surprise me that the first comment on this story came from John Charity Spring, expressing his moral outrage about issues that weren't even mentioned in the study?

Did you happen to notice that Millennials are the least likely group to want to be, or approve of being, single parents?

Did you notice that they think success comes because of a good work ethic, hard work, or ambition?

A lot of JCS type of comments were made about my Generation- Generation X. Guess what? The world hasn't fallen apart now that we're taking the reigns and running businesses, holding government positions, and raising families (many of our children are the Millennials).

It seems that the same kinds of things were said about the Baby Boomers- they raised Generations X and Y, are retiring, enjoying their grandchildren, and doing good in the world.

It's amazing how the previous generations always see the younger ones as being so much worse than they were, yet the world keeps on turning, and along comes the next generation...

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

@Open Minded Mormon

NONE of what you described is actually socialism

Technically socialism describes the communal ownership of the means of production, however, roads, water, police etc. do represent the socialization of risks and needs rather than the private ownership of those items. Peas in the same pod, community.

BTW, communal ownership doesn't necessarily mean govt. ownership. It all depends on how you define the community. Worker owned companies (of which there are hoards of successful examples in America) would be socialism at work.

Kind of ironic that the right believes in government as close to the individual as possible but doesn't believe in an economy run as close to the worker as possible.

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