Published: Friday, July 25 2014 8:00 a.m. MDT
The only thing surprising about this poll is that anyone is surprised that
today's young people have contradictory and even hypocritical political
views.Today's young people want politicians who advocate
individual pleasure over responsibility. They want the ability to engage in
unrestrained use of alcohol, marijuana, and recreational sex. In addition, they
demand that the government force the taxpayers to fund birth control to make it
all possible.Essentially, what they demand is a political system of
entitlements. They believe that, simply because they exist, they are entitled
to have their every want and need provided by the government.
@John Charity Spring"Today's young people want politicians who
advocate individual pleasure over responsibility. They want the ability to
engage in unrestrained use of alcohol, marijuana, and recreational sex. In
addition, they demand that the government force the taxpayers to fund birth
control to make it all possible."That's surely not the
young people I know and work with. I feel our country is in very good hands
with today's youth. I have more concern about our older, Faux News,
citizens who want no personal freedoms for anyone else while demanding
politicans protect their monthly social security stipend.
I feel that if you polled any generation you'd find contradictory views in
the overall percentages. That being said, the most interesting find
was education's effects on political persuasion. More education = more
liberal. I know I've found that to be true in my own education. Learning
about diversity and the plights of different groups (groupings such as: race,
class, religion, and sexuality) helped me to understand them better (though I
know I can always strive to understand more). Understanding brings my desire
for social change so that some groups aren't inherently advantaged over
others.I wish everyone took a slew of differing diversity classes.
The more you know, the better decisions you can make. And hey, after someone
has done a deep dive into learning about a group and their struggles if they
still want to discriminate or keep that group at a disadvantage at least
we'd know they made that decision conscientiously.
Ages 18-29 voted 48% for Al GoreAges 18-29 voted 58% for Barrack ObamaAges 18-29 voted 60% to re-elected ObamaNot because they
"like" Democrats, but becuase they "DIS-Like" the
Republicans!That should be saying something.The trend
continues....The GOP is loosing the -- Black, Hispanic, Asian,Women,Gay / Lesbian, and the
Young People.and they have no-one else to blame but themselves...
Yet another group for whom JCS has little respect - people younger than himself.
He has made them feel the wrath of several generalizations, and plans to go
right on shaking his finger in their general direction.
@jcsThe wording of this headline is very poor, what the study shows
is that like any generation not people from that generation think a like they
are a diverse group with diverse ideas but don't let that stand in the way
of your moral outrage.
This might be the first time I have seen a comment from John Charity Spring.
To see it hurts, because I know that there are thousands of Utahns who
believe exactly what he wrote. In fact, I suspect that this type of sentiment
is much more pervasive than most millennials would want to believe. Franky,
it's unfair and unhelpful. Millennials have many challenges ahead of them.
But nobody should be under the impression that John Charity's generation
did them any favors. That generation (baby boomer?) certainly left
the world worse off than when they found it. That generation certainly
can't claim the moral high ground here. In fact, I would wager that there
were more abortions, drug use, government entitlements per capita amongst that
generation than there are amongst Millennials.
This is why Huntsman would make a strong general election candidate for the
Republicans. @JCS"The only thing surprising about this
poll is that anyone is surprised that today's young people have
contradictory and even hypocritical political views."I'm
pretty sure you think the deficit is a major problem that needs to be addressed
and support tax cuts.
Each generation adds its part to the increasing selfishness and general lack of
moral values. While there aree certainly many individuals within wach
generation that are selfless and moral, as a society we get worse with eahc
generation.This may stem from a higher tolerance for selfichness and
immorality in the prior generation. For example, I have seen parents justify
buying their teenagers alcohol and letting them throw parties at theie house
because "they are going to drink anyway, so they may as well drink at
home".The slide may look gradual, but the result is
I'm a millennial and was raised by good baby-boomer parents who were
responsible and taught me to be so. I dislike when our generation is labeled as
"lazy", entitled basement dwellers who play video games all day. There
always seems to be a pessimistic view of the younger generation. Painting with a
broad brush is unfair to those who work hard to make our world better. There were bad decisions made by some influential baby boomers: Free
love and drugs, two wars that have left many millennials dead, the worst
recession since the 1930s, fewer jobs and lower salaries, exponential rises in
healthcare and college costs, abortion and no-fault divorce laws, and a
self-esteem movement that encouraged entitlement. However, there
are many baby boomers who do indeed make our world better. It's never fun
to be stereotyped though.
I think one of the most telling things about the study was that only 16% of
millennials actually know what socialism is. The ironic thing is that a
majority support capitalism and want to be the heads of corporations and make
profits. If so few know what socialism is, and knowing that they are socially
liberal, it is easy to convince them to support any public program you want.
You just have to tell them that is for everybody's good, and that it will
somehow be paid for.
@blackattackTry not to take it personal. Sadly as you very wisely
noted older gereations tend to view the younger generations very negatively,
that is nothing new, but the facts speak clearly for themselves with each
passing generation we slowly move towards a more fair and just society, this
coupled with the fact that crime and abortion rates are very low shows the
positive trend that your generation is very much a part of. There will always be
a few "bad seeds" in each generation but my experience with your
generation has left me feeling very good about the future of our country and our
@RedShirtUSS Enterprise, UTI think one of the most telling things
about Conservatives is that 100% of them will all trash talk -- but will sign-up
and accept Social Security & Medicare, call 911 for Fire or Police
Departments, attend Public school and Libraries, and drive on roads, drink
water, and use the intenet, and have Families -- Socialism.
@JCS and other typical DN commenters who have not yet chimed in to this
topic...-- Out here in the rest of the world, even those like me who
are pushing 70, are surprised to read pretty much what we heard when Bob Dylan
and the Beatles were being criticized 50 years ago. It's probably what was
written about the "flappers and sheiks" in 1925.I wonder if
these comments are posted by the great-grandchildren of the guys who originally
made them, just to mess with us? Or is Utah somehow conducive to living in a
The thing we need to remember about Millennial's is that the older
generation made them this way.
@Open Minded MormonNONE of what you described is actually
socialism.Which proves the graphic that only 16% know what socialism
Liked all the yellow I saw. I hope more people will wale up and realize that All
Obama ever was is a clone of Bush. He has just duped his cult followers into
thinking his policies are different when they are exactly the same. I dont know
why Conservatives love Bush, he was more liberal than Clinton because he tripled
the size of Government. The next president will be worse than obama unless they
Millennials are what you get after a generation of not teaching history.
Generally speaking (certainly not all of you, blackattack), millennials have no
idea of the principles upon which the country is based. They have no notion of
the failures of socialism world wide, or the economic education to understand
that the way to end poverty is capitalism.In my office I have a
piece of the Berlin wall. In the course of my work I have dozens of high school
students come to see me. It's frightening how many of these juniors and
seniors ask about the piece of concrete on my desk, and stare at me blankly when
I tell them it's a part of the Berlin Wall. They've never heard of it.
And they've never heard of the horrors of socialism, because, as someone
pointed out, we failed to teach them.
Why doesn't it surprise me that the first comment on this story came from
John Charity Spring, expressing his moral outrage about issues that weren't
even mentioned in the study?Did you happen to notice that
Millennials are the least likely group to want to be, or approve of being,
single parents?Did you notice that they think success comes because
of a good work ethic, hard work, or ambition?A lot of JCS type of
comments were made about my Generation- Generation X. Guess what? The world
hasn't fallen apart now that we're taking the reigns and running
businesses, holding government positions, and raising families (many of our
children are the Millennials).It seems that the same kinds of things
were said about the Baby Boomers- they raised Generations X and Y, are
retiring, enjoying their grandchildren, and doing good in the world.It's amazing how the previous generations always see the younger ones as
being so much worse than they were, yet the world keeps on turning, and along
comes the next generation...
@Open Minded MormonNONE of what you described is actually
socialismTechnically socialism describes the communal ownership of
the means of production, however, roads, water, police etc. do represent the
socialization of risks and needs rather than the private ownership of those
items. Peas in the same pod, community.BTW, communal ownership
doesn't necessarily mean govt. ownership. It all depends on how you define
the community. Worker owned companies (of which there are hoards of successful
examples in America) would be socialism at work. Kind of ironic
that the right believes in government as close to the individual as possible but
doesn't believe in an economy run as close to the worker as possible.
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