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Published: Monday, July 21 2014 2:37 p.m. MDT

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Loconic
Alpine, UT

Good for Governor Perry. Finally, a politician who is actually taking action!

Paying anywhere from $5,000 to $10,000 per person to smugglers to get to the USA border, it's obvious these illegals aren't destitute. Many people in the world can't come up with that much money.

From interviews, their self-admitted primary reason for the current flood of illegals is because word on the street in South America is that now is the time to come... that people (and especially minors) won't get sent back because of Obama's Executive Order to replace his desired amnesty "Dream Act" that Congress wouldn't pass.

And because of that, our immigration system has become totally overwhelmed. Border agents aren't currently able to do what they were hired to do, which is to guard the border. As such, there are a lot more drugs getting through, as well as criminals who would never be allowed to come here legally.

There have been other politicians claiming that sending 1,000 National Guardsmen to temporarily assist would dramatically help the situation. Sadly, Obama won't try that or anything else. He's only reinforcing his current "do-nothing president" reputation.

Loconic
Alpine, UT

Even if this National Guardsmen plan is only temporarily successful, it will stem the tide of illegal immigrants long enough for word to back to these peoples' home countries that the free ride is over and their version of amnesty is no longer automatically forthcoming.

Once the next tide of illegals coming here gets stopped and sent back to their home countries, word will quickly spread and people in South America will no longer be willing to risk spending $5-10k to human smugglers if there is a reasonable chance they will be sent back.

There is no valid reason why this plan using National Guardsmen won't work. And it's certainly better than doing absolutely nothing, which is the habit the White House has gotten into whenever a crises arises... nationally or internationally. They keep saying they are studying their options, but then never following-up with any action.

It's no wonder whatsoever that Obama's approval ratings are falling and now in the toilet. When states try to take action, Obama sues them stating that immigration is a federal responsibility. But the feds aren't taking this important responsibility seriously. Kudos to Texas.

FT
salt lake city, UT

It's political theater, nothing more. This act only increases the number of people the illegals can turn themselves in to. Repealing GW Bush's 2008 act needs to be the first step.

Jazz Bass Man
Wellsville, Utah

It sure appears that Obama's regime are working with the mexican government to bring these illegals here at this time. mexico used to shoot any illegals on site who crossed their southern border, but now they are getting herded all the way through mexico where they cross the border. The corrupt mexican government gets kickbacks from the coyotes and cartels moving drugs and humans through to the US, and Obama gets more democrat voters.

Sounds like the perfect scam on the American people, and we need to vote out EVERY politician - democrat and republican - that supports amnesty. Obama's corrupt administration is directly responsible for this invasion, since he is the one who has been trumpeting on Univision that he will give amnesty to illegals this year.

Russell10
Clark, NV

1000 guardsmen on the Texas/Mexico border is a drop in the bucket. They may catch a few people crossing the border but that is not going slow the tide. Which makes this little more than a publicity stunt. A very expensive publicity stunt.

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

I applaud Gov. Perry's efforts and hope he can at least slow down the (obvious) lawbreakers crossing the border.

1000 is good 10,000 would have been better.

The problem I have with Gov. Perry's approach is that Obama may just takeover the national guard and force them to stand down. That would leave Perry with the choice of activating a state militia (which he has the authority to do)but would take the national guard out of his control.

Obama has done EVERYTHING in his power to allow illegal trespassers access to this country. He stopped Gov. Jan Brewer from even apprehending illegal trespassers.

Good luck to Gov. Perry!!

I'm not convinced that Obama even WANTS the illegal trespassing to stop. If I'm right - things will get worse and worse..........

Objectified
Richfield, UT

@ Russell10:

You are contradicting yourself.
If this number is "just a drop in the bucket" as you contend, then it really won't be all that expensive, as you also contend.

But the truth is, it's about a 25% increase in the amount of border coverage in that area. And it's the area most prevalent to illegal crossings. As such, it would make a huge difference.

And as Loconic said, even if they are just able to take care of the minors currently taking so much of the Border Guards' time, it would, at the very least, put the real Border Guards back on the border and thus dramatically slow down the illegal adults and illegal drugs currently coming into our country uncontested. Those activities have gone up significantly since those guards have been pulled away from the border and their attention diverted to the children.

But beyond that, there's a good chance they can keep many of the accompanied minors from crossing the Rio Grande river and therefore becoming eligible for a hearing. That often takes over a year or more. In fact, over 80% never show up for their hearings anyway.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

@Loconic
Except that the Dream Act passed through the Senate has a time cutoff on who it would apply to and current migrants wouldn't be part of it. The loophole they're using now is one passed under Bush in 2008 that involves children fleeing from countries as refugees (at the time the concern was about child trafficking). However, it was broad and pretty much allowed for a lengthy process to investigate the case for every child that crosses (except Mexico and Canada which has a different set of speedier rules, what Republicans are looking to pass are something that puts every nation on those Mexico/Canada rules).

Sending more guardsmen isn't going to do anything about a situation where children cross the boarder and then deliberately seek out those guardsmen.

Jester:)
Martinsburg, WV

Action or no action. Either way this problem is ours (U.S.). This needs to be dealt with directly. It's a shame that Governor Perry is forced to fill in the gaps that the Federal Government can't. Where are you at U.S. Congress? Mr. President? Cartels were shooting accross the Rio Grande last week. Hello McFly?? Is anybody home on the Hill?

Jester:)
Martinsburg, WV

I say all our Federal legislators and Obama Administration go down to the border in person and guard it themselves until they figure out an idea. Lead by example or something!

TRUTH
Salt Lake City, UT

RICK PERRY FOR POTUS!

About time someone with some brains tackles this issue, while Obama is AWOL fundraising!!

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

Governor Orval Faubus
Governor Jim Rhodes
Governor Rick Perry

Humanitarians the lot...

JimInSLC
Salt Lake City, UT

There should be National Guard troops from all 50 states sent to the border to help. If the immigrants cross over the southern border they will be transported to areas around the country by ICE and DHS.

I understand that Mexico, which normally has a zero tolerance for illegal immigration, gives these people a 72 hour pass to get to the US. And the train that transports these people, "the beast", is owned by a US company.

If these people are running from corruption and violence in their own countries send some special forces units to train the military in these countries to deal with the problem.

Congress should deny Obama the funds that he is asking for.

LarryLinn
LOS ANGELES, CA

So Rick Perry thinks that an additional 1,000 National Guard troops will make a significant influence upon a 1,954 mile border?

intervention
slc, UT

Not sure exactly what perry thinks the guard is going to be able to do that the border guards are not already doing. According to the agents at the border they started to see a decrease over the last couple of weeks anyway and any further reductions are going to have to start were the problem begins by working withe the countries were they are coming from to stabalizegtheir own countries. If perry wants to help that is the place to start.

What in Tucket?
Provo, UT

A blanket amnesty would result in a Tsunami of immigrants. IF that is what you liberals want so be it.

worf
Mcallen, TX

While our commander is trying to protect Ukraine, play pool, and do fund raisers.

Perry is showing his patriotism by serving the United States of America.

Way to go!!

Snikapants
Sierra Vista, AZ

This is just a bunch of hot air from another governor trying to set him/herself up for a reality show or presidential run.

Keep in mind, The NG personnel cannot arrest subjects, detain subjects, or take sworn statements from subjects. Why is that? They don't have the authority to enforce immigration law. So outside of sending 1,000 personnel to help babysit and change diapers, what good is this?

Perry says all this, but I guarantee that if you told him the answer is going after Texas businesses that are employing illegal immigrants as a means of cheap labor you wouldn't hear much out of him.

Mark from Montana
Davis County, UT

I think most of the commenters, as well as Ted Cruz, Mike Lee and Jason Chaffetz should go to the border and help round up these kids. Perhaps seeing the faces of kids who have nothing in life but fear would give them all some humanity.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

It is a shame the President would not go down there himself.

The Posse Comitatus Act, as modified in 1981, refers to the Armed Forces of the United States. It does not apply to the National Guard under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state's governor.

The governor appears to be under his authority and enforcement powers. Sheriff departments are county officials and the federal agencies usually have a conflict with county officials with enforcing.

The President appears to have a quagmire. He has lived in foreign countries and knows what it is like to have desires to be here. Even his uncle knows that. We can't have unregulated borders for many reasons, for our own safety and security, foreign and domestic. As a constitutional attorney, he should know his responsibilities for our country.

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