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Published: Friday, July 18 2014 4:27 p.m. MDT

Updated: Friday, July 18 2014 4:27 p.m. MDT

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Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

The IRS shouldn't be connected to politicians. It doesn't make sense that the democrats can control this organization and use it to threaten anyone that doesn't think at their level of poverty.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

With less than four months to go before the midterm elections, we don’t hear this case talked about as much by establishment Republicans as by tea party Republicans. The former has little to gain by a case they wish would just go away. I’ll be surprised if they can prove their claims.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Hey Liberal Ted -

" It doesn't make sense that the democrats can control this organization . . . "

No, it doesn't make sense at all.

And that's because the Democrats do NOT control the IRS.

What the Democrats and the IRS both have in common is that both realize that revenue is necessary for this nation to function.

Many overly-simplistic Republicans on the other hand, especially Tea Partiers, are apparently unable to make that connection.

The IRS and the Democrats are on the side of America, plain and simple.

See how that works now?

I'm glad I could help.

intervention
slc, UT

@liberal ted
Please show us any proof that the democrats control and stir the IRS. There is poverty of thought going on but its not he democrats.

IDC
Boise, ID

Maybe they can't prove their claims but if the IRS did target certain people, those responsible should go to prison for a long time.

BrentBot
Salt Lake City, UT

There is no question in my mind that had the IRS not targeted Tea Party Groups, Mitt Romney would be our president today. Democrats use unethical and illegal means to justify their end. In addition, Benghazi lies were proffered by the Obama administration, the purpose of which were to maintain the false narrative that Obama decimated Al Quaeda.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

But, but, the U.S. Department of Justice has started an investigation into this.

However, we can count on the DOJ to pursue this issued with the zeal, tenacity and integrity of O.J. Simpson's 'searching for the real killer."

The blatant politicization of the IRS against Tea Party groups should not be the subject of a lawsuit, but rather impeachment and criminal prosecution of the multiple Obama administration officials who were engaged in it. But, alas, the hard drives of most of those involved conveniently crashed, and no paper copies were kept, and the culprits discovered that the IRS instant messaging system kept no records. So, it looks like they will use the Bart Simpson defense "I didn't do it, your didn't see me, you can't prove it."

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Hey BrentBot -

"There is no question in my mind that had the IRS not targeted Tea Party Groups, Mitt Romney would be our president today. "

What a pleasant fantasy! . . . for you.

If it makes you feel better, than please indulge . . . And completely ignore the fact that No Drama Obama who Got Osama won by a very convincing 126 electoral votes.

. . . And Mitt Romney chalked up yet another loss.

David
Centerville, UT

Gary,

Can you please explain the coincidence of Lerner's and co. computer crashes with subsequent loss of pertinent data to the timing of events regarding the IRS and these conservative groups status?

Can you please explain how a government agency with supposed sophistication of the IRS can simply lose emails? Is there no "cloud" in the IRS? Is there no backup of data? Isn't it convenient for Lerner and even the Obama administration that these computers crashed, and that Lerner claimed the 5th amendment?

intervention
slc, UT

@DN subscriber

I will tell you what, get back to us when you have any actual evidance to support you conspercy theories about the Obama administration, but please forgive us if we don't hold our collective breath waiting.

Holiness is required
Springfield, KY

Sadly all hope is lost in ever getting to the bottom of the issue with the destruction of the hard drives. How convenient for the perpetrators though.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Hey David –

“Can you please explain the coincidence of Lerner's and co. computer crashes with subsequent loss of pertinent data to the timing of events regarding the IRS and these conservative groups status?”

Computer crashes happen, and when they do, data can get lost.

“Can you please explain how a government agency with supposed sophistication of the IRS can simply lose emails? Is there no "cloud" in the IRS? Is there no backup of data? “

I’m no authority on IRS procedures in regard to saving data. But I doubt that any business or government agency has found it yet necessary to save every last email that might be exchanged by employees. I’m not sure any existing cloud would be large enough to contain the yottabytes of data that would accrue.

It’s too bad “Conservatives” can’t find anything worthwhile to do, don't you think?

Ralph
Salt Lake City, UT

Wait a second, what happened to Benghazi.

Aren't there some high crimes and misdemeanors to prosecute Obama for?

Weren't there like 15 or 20 investigations into Benghazi, trying to pin something on Hillary or Obama?

Let's not lose our delusional focus, Fox-Newsies.

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

"The IRS and the Democrats are on the side of America, plain and simple."

That comment should be rated at least 5 Pinocchios.

"I will tell you what, get back to us when you have any actual evidance to support you conspercy theories about the Obama administration, but please forgive us if we don't hold our collective breath waiting."

Is the destruction of the hard drives really have that little significance in your mind? Can you really believe it was a coincidence?

intervention
slc, UT

@river cougar

can you prove that there is any reason to believe that those drives would tie the Obama administration to this case? conspiracy theories and snide comments abound but that all they are.

What in Tucket?
Provo, UT

Go to a flat tax and cut out subsidies and deductions. That would reduce the IRS.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

The lack of integrity in government is in all areas, civilian and military.

casual observer
Salt Lake City, UT

The IRS has a strong defense - the Fifth Amendment.

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

"can you prove that there is any reason to believe that those drives would tie the Obama administration to this case? conspiracy theories and snide comments abound but that all they are."

Here we go again with the "prove it!" comments. Of course it will be hard to find proof now; they are destroying any evidence and refusing to testify! Anyway, how many times did the IRS commissioner go to the White House as opposed to when Bush was president?

However, my questions are still unanswered: don't you think it is at least a LITTLE suspicious?

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

Riverton Cougar said: "Here we go again with the "prove it!" comments. "

Well if your going to sue someone you'll have to "prove it." in order to prevail, and that is where the whole conservative conspiracy clan fades into oblivion.

It's sad how much time the conservatives spend on trying to bring down democrats "by any means necessary" instead of with their great ideas. They wasted most of Clinton's Presidency trying to prove he had an affair, and in the end (60-80 million dollars later) it didn't matter, and they couldn't remove him. On the other hand they spent $600,000 investigating 911, (poorly) and then attacked a country that had zero to do with 911.

Instead of acting like investigative journalist for the inquire.

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