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Published: Wednesday, July 16 2014 3:52 p.m. MDT

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DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Please show me where in the Constitution the government is empowered to spend money, or compel anyone else to spend money for birth control.

We have lost all sense of personal responsibility for anything at all. No one is denying women the right o have sex, buy birth control of whatever type they like, or to forgo birth control and have as many children as they want.

For women who do not want to have children, they need a 15 minute education on what causes pregnancy. Then, they need to decide if they want to forgo such actions or to buy some form of birth control. Go for it, ladies!

But, don't demand that I pay for your lifestyle choices. Or, next you will demand that I buy alcohol and tobacco and firearms for people who want to enjoy the pleasures derived from those items.

The saddest part is that the Democrats have convinced that "evil, women-hating" Republicans want to deny women total access to birth control, and the media do nothing to correct the facts.

But, Democrat claims being inconsistent with the truth is a way of life, at least at the national level.

YoungPuppy
west Jordan, UT

"Senate GOP blocks bill on _________" Fill in blank. That sentence is true for just about anything you fill in. The Just say no to everything party has made the last few years the lease productive of any Congress in our history.

I agree that this is just an election year play and they don't expect it to pass. Both sides do the same thing. I am sure that the House republicans will again vote to completely remove funding from Obamacare. I think that the 50th meaningless vote you get a free sandwich or something?

Because of all the infighting between the GOP and the Tea Party they can't even get bills through that their own party submits.

This is just more Washington politics that the country is tired of, they are for it so I must be against it. It is just childish. Since when did compromise become such a bad word? We should be able to come together and work out issues. But some, especially in the far right, would rather see the government shut down then see any progress.

trueblue87
Provo, UT

"A woman's health care decision should be made with her doctor, with her family, with her faith, not by her employer with her employer's faith," Shaheen said in a Senate speech.

Fine. And a woman can spend her own money on this issue.

NedGrimley
Brigham City, UT

This is very interesting. SCOTUS has made a decision and the Dems are livid. Angry enough to attempt to pass a bill to override SCOTUS. This will play out very interestingly in the marriage debate, as well. Especially if (and/or when) the tables turn.

As far as women and "rights": I don’t see how women have lost any rights with the SCOTUS decision. They can still obtain "after the (f)act" birth control, any day, every day...just on their own dime.

"'A woman's health care decision should be made with her doctor, with her family, with her faith, not by her employer with her employer's faith,' Shaheen said in a Senate speech."

Actually, I see that as a direct endorsement that no one should be forced to provide a benefit to anyone if they do not want to.

NedGrimley
Brigham City, UT

YoungPuppy: "'Senate GOP blocks bill on _________' Fill in blank."

You forgot to leave a space where "GOP" is: Senate ________blocks bill on _______. Both parties do a great job of blocking the other, and complaining about the other side's unwillingness to "compromise".

Meckofahess
Salt Lake City, UT

Thinking the Senate GOP showed good judgment on this one!. I do not agree with all of their positions but this was the right thing to do here especially given the SCOTUS decision.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

@DN Subscriber
"The saddest part is that the Democrats have convinced that "evil, women-hating" Republicans want to deny women total access to birth control, and the media do nothing to correct the facts."

They want to allow for the option of businesses to be able to deny women access to all forms of birth control in their health insurance. Wheaton's suing for that and the Supreme Court gave them their exemption while their suit is going through. The Supreme Court rejected review of 3 cases where plaintiffs suing to cover no birth control won, and sent for further review 3 cases where similar plaintiffs lost.

By the way... it's statements like this

"For women who do not want to have children"

that aid the Democrats in arguing that Republicans are going after women. It takes two to make a baby. Not to mention you ignore that female contraceptives have other medical uses beyond just pregnancy prevention.

Shimlau
SAINT GEORGE, UT

Young puppy; interesting comment, but what you neglect to mention is that the house (controlled by the GOP) sent numerous compromise bills to the Senate (controlled by the DEMS) during the ongoing financial crisis, and every one of them were shot down by Harry Reid & co. so as was mentioned by another commentor, don't blame it all on the GOP; there is more than enough blame to go around. And as long as Pres. Obama is only going to allow the GOP to sit at the back of the bus, there will be no possibility of compromise.

Hockey Fan
Miles City, MT

There were women in the picture who were wearing a t-shirt that says, "My body."

How about if they were to amend that to say, "My body, My responsibility"?

ordinaryfolks
seattle, WA

As long as the employee's compensation includes health care coverage, and as long as that employee is responsible for partial payment of that coverage, then that employee ought to be able to get birth control provided by the insurance.

What part of that is so hard to understand?

samhill
Salt Lake City, UT

Does Harry Reid do **anything** that isn't blatantly and/or, as in this case, pathetically political??

I have never joined either the Democrat or Republican party precisely because of the kind of disgusting political, election-year pandering, of which this is a perfect example.

I wish I had at least **some** hope that these people would acquire even a hint of shame for behaving like this, but I'm afraid after seeing so much of it, especially during the last decade or so, I've actually lost all hope of that.

The worst part of it all is knowing how far we've gone and how fast we're still going toward a disastrous point of reckoning for our poor country.

We're not only going in the wrong direction, we're **accelerating** in the wrong direction.

byronbca
Salt Lake City, UT

If I am a woman who is under the age of 50 I have to be thinking that republicans don't really have my interests in mind.

I think that old republican men feel birth control is immoral when in reality using it until the time is right is just being responsible and just as many married women use it as single women.

sashabill
Morgan Hill, CA

The young women depicted in the photograph seem to have forgotten that controlling one's own body is a responsibility, not a right. This is not surprising, however, considering that concepts like personal character and personal responsibility have virtually disappeared from modern American liberalism.

Star Bright
Salt Lake City, Ut

byronbca Birth control is free to women through insurance. There are a few companies who reject the 4 types. There are 16 birth control pills that Hobby Lobby is paying for.
This business that women can't have birth control - oh rotten republicans - is wrong
BTW Hobby Lobby pays twice the minimum wage.

Please, please, check it out for yourself...

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@ Schnee

Yes, I stated "For women who do not want to have children" because not all women want children, some as a matter of timing, others never want a child. That is called "choice" which I support but would not impose on women who want children.

As far as that "...[aiding] the Democrats in arguing that Republicans are going after women." the Democrats repeatedly make that assertion regardless of facts already.

Yes, "It takes two to make a baby," and the male part of the mating process should be equally responsible for birth control, at their expense, not yours and mine.

"Not to mention you ignore that female contraceptives have other medical uses beyond just pregnancy prevention." Well, condoms make nifty balloons, but that does not mean we should pay for them because they can be party decorations. Probably fewer than one out of 10,000 women have legitimate non-contraceptive needs for birth control pills.

Republicans don't women birth control, they just won't force people with sincere religious objections to have to pay for it. Just like the LDS Church should not be forced to buy communion wine for poor Catholics.

Choice and responsibility are anathema to Democrats.

NedGrimley
Brigham City, UT

Using reasoning from this string, I provide the following hypothetical proposals:

Suppose my employer provides me use of a vehicle, which I pay part of. I ought to be able to drive a Lamborghini.

Suppose my employer provides a 401k plan that I participate in. I ought to be able to receive a 150% match from my employer for everything I pay in.

Suppose my employer pays me for a certain number of vacation days each year. I ought to get more paid days off each year.

Sorry, all of these items are "benefits" provided to me by my employer and it is not my option to demand what they do and do not provide. Even if they are considered part of my compensation. (Sneaky little change of terms that helps me make it sound like I am more entitled.) I can negotiate those items and talk till I'm blue in the face, but they are not "rights" nor should they be. And it should not be any of the government's business.

Health care started as, has always been, and should still be a benefit. What part of that is so hard to understand?

FT
salt lake city, UT

Another blow to the GOP in the eyes of the female vote. Perception is reality. And what millions of woman constantly see is old, rich, over weight, white men dictating what they can do with their body.

Spas
Ivins, UT

Now that I have lived in Utah for 15 years, I have recovered from being shocked by the narrow-mindedness of the majority in this state, but I am still amazed by the prevalent lack of compassion for any human's situation in life that does not mirror the average Utahn. And please, spare me the usual response of telling me to go back to where I came from. That is so old.

J-TX
Allen, TX

@ Spas: If you don't like it there, and don't want to go back where you came from, you can always fine a NEW liberal haven to go to. There are plenty, pick one: OR, WA, CA, CO, MA, VT, CT, NY, NJ......

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

The subhead is misleading. Nobody would be getting "free" birth control. The employees pay premiums for their insurance policies. It's the bosses who are saying what the employees will and will not get for their money.

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