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Published: Sunday, July 13 2014 3:03 p.m. MDT

Updated: Sunday, July 13 2014 3:03 p.m. MDT

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prelax
Murray, UT

"The law already allows HHS and the Homeland Security Department to write regulations to deal with "exceptional circumstances" that would allow officials to return the children more quickly to their home countries, Feinstein said Thursday at a hearing on a $3.7 billion emergency budget request from the White House to deal with the growing crisis on the border."

So we already have a solution.

Placing them with people here illegally just compounds the problem and assures they will not show up for court.

Kalindra
Salt Lake City, Utah

These children are fleeing war and trafficking. This makes them refugees, not illegal immigrants. Obama needs to state that clearly and ask the UN and other countries to get involved in helping these refugees.

VST
Bountiful, UT

According to Senator Feinstein in this article, Obama already has the authority (per the 2008 law) to immediately deport all these kids back to Central America. She was one of the authors of that law.

If so, then why does HHS have to go out shopping to the States to take these kids?

VST
Bountiful, UT

War? No. Trafficking? Maybe – but that can be determined with a two minute conversation.

As a whole, they are not refugees.

If they are refugees, then I am the tooth fairy.

intervention
slc, UT

its funny that republicans are so up in arms when Obama is doing the one thing they always complain he does not do, follow the laws passed by congress. He is following the laws written by congress in 2002 and 2008 and singed by George W Bush outlining how children crossing the border should be processed and treated. If they want him to do something different perhaps they should change the laws they enacted and Obama is following.
I also agree with Kaliindra it is time that we see this for what it is a humanitarian crisis with refugee children at the epicenter, it is time to demand the UN and our own government wake up to that reality and get to work.

intervention
slc, UT

Under the 2002 human trafficking law signed by former President George Bush and reauthorized again in 2008 with additional protections, Mexican unaccompanied children apprehended crossing the border are automatically returned without formal deportation proceedings because the two countries share a border. But unaccompanied children from El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala cannot be sent back without going through the deportation process, since that law ensured that America wouldn’t send kids back to a dangerous situation. Authorities must process these children and determine whether they have credible proof that they cannot return to their countries of origin. Central American children are given basic care like medical screenings in processing centers before being placed with relatives or foster care until they can appear in front of immigration judges.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Obama invited them here with his promises of amnesty, let HIM take care of them!

prelax
Murray, UT

@Kalindra
Both Biden and Kerry have said they were coming here for the amnesty. See this papers archive for the June 20th article.

@intervention
But the law states that they can rewrite the laws under extreme circumstances.

Please see the Washington post today for the article on MS-13, taking advantage of the immigration crisis along the U.S. border. “They’re now using the Nogales processing center as a recruitment hub for new members to come in,” also all minors are being let in, including known gang members.

prelax
Murray, UT

After weeks of insistence that criminal violence was responsible for the surge of Central American migrants, the U.S. has begun a regional public-relations campaign to fight the widespread belief in Central America that children and families will be allowed to stay in the U.S. if they are caught by the Border Patrol.

That belief has been fueled both by migrant smugglers seeking more clients, and by calls home from children and families who have been released by the thousands in recent years, with notices to appear in immigration court, because there are no facilities to hold them.

June 20 DN

intervention
slc, UT

@mountain man
So Obama passed the 2002 human trafficking law by himself in the house and the senate three years before he became a senator and forged Bush's signature twice in 2002 and again in 2008?

VST
Bountiful, UT

@intervention is claiming that Congress needs to rewrite the 2008 law in order for the President to immediately deport those Central American children.

Sorry @intervention, but you are not correct, and I quote Senator Diane Feinstein (from this article) who helped draft those provisions in the 2008 law:

“Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, the author of the provision in the human trafficking law, said a change in regulations, not the law, could speed the children's return.

“The law already allows HHS and the Homeland Security Department to write regulations to deal with "exceptional circumstances" that would allow officials to return the children more quickly to their home countries, Feinstein said Thursday at a hearing on a $3.7 billion emergency budget request from the White House to deal with the growing crisis on the border.”

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

@vst
Every time they write regulations Obama gets accused of rewriting or ignoring the laws passed by congress. Maybe congress should stop making excuses and either change the law or give them the tools to enforce it.

intervention
slc, UT

@prelax
Tell me Tolstoy is wrong, maybe congress needs to stop trying to displace their share of the blame and get back to work.

prelax
Murray, UT

Obama had no problem using his executive powers giving waivers (amnesty) to adults brought here as children. It caused this mess.

It's not Obama but Health and Human services, and Homeland security that has the power to change the ruling. They don't need Congress, it's already part of the law.

Brio
Alpine, UT

@ kalindra and intervention:

What verifiable source do you have for your contentions that all of these children are refugees fleeing war and violence from their home countries? What's to keep them from making such a claim if it improves their odds of staying here?

Border guards interviewing these people said that most coming at this time are coming because they heard now is a good time to come without being sent back. There has been no recent increase in South American drug wars that have been at approximately the same levels since the early 1980's.

The biggest law debacle is Obama's June 15, 2012 Executive Order to replace the Dream Act that Congress wouldn't pass. It created the loophole that these illegals are now relying on. Obama won't allow himself to be seen in the effected areas because the entire mess has his fingerprints all over it.

Like most national problems, he keeps waiting and does very little, even when he has been the primary source of the ongoing issues. He is simply not an administrator or problem solver. His expertise is in making unfulfilled and unkept political promises.

VST
Bountiful, UT

@Tolstoy,

This is a Democrat (Sen. Diane Feinstein) who says the law does not need to be re-written (because she wrote the provisions for that law back in 2008). Furthermore, Republican Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Rep. Mike Rogers agrees with her. He said Sunday on NBCs Meet the Press that “…wholesale changes by Congress may not be necessary and that Obama has the authority to return the children to their native countries.”

Go read this total article for your enlightenment.

New to Utah
PAYSON, UT

Obama has failed to stop the flow of unaccompanied children from illegally entering our country. It is his policies and pandering for votes that has emboldened parents in those central American countries to put their children in harms way. Obama has to finally man up and deal with the problem he created. Congress should not appropriate more money to grow the problem.We should treat the illness or injury of these children then send them home.

Uncle_Fester
Niskayuna, NY

This should be resisted and refused. All the illegal immigrants should be repatriated. This administration needs to understand that we are not a dumping ground for welfare cases. We need to shut down the borders, get rid of Obama and all the members of the U.S. Senate who cooperate with this nonsense, and start having a law enforcing administration and legislature.

J-TX
Allen, TX

Mr. Obama: Build Up That Wall!!!

FT
salt lake city, UT

America is thankful we have a President and administration confronting the crisis and working to resolve it. Once again we look at Congress and wonder if the GOP can at least give us one position they are united on and working to resolve.

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