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  • sdmom San Diego, CA
    July 14, 2014 4:51 p.m.

    Obama is not doing anything about this border crisis because he has orchestrated it and is now watching the fruits of his labors unfold, laughing about it. Creating massive poverty is one of the steps to creating a socialist state. This is what he is doing, step by step, with precise planning. Using children as capital for this phase. Silly me, I thought he couldn't execute anything.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    July 12, 2014 2:50 p.m.

    Give them what they yell for and they will yell against it. Tea Party influence is illogical.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    July 12, 2014 6:47 a.m.

    Republicans own this mess! Now shut up and help fix it!

    In 2008, President George W. Bush signed into law the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act, which said that unaccompanied minors from countries non-contiguous with the United States (i.e., countries other than Mexico and Canada) are afforded greater legal protections. When a child shows up at the border from Mexico or Canada, for instance, a Border Patrol agent has the legal authority to decide whether that child may be eligible to stay in the country.

    Republicans backed that law, and now they are the ones who don’t want to enforce it!

    The so-called “immigration border crisis” is neither about immigration nor the border. There are two separate crises that Republicans (and a few liberals) are conflating for political reasons.

    Instead of hurling attacks and misinformation, it would be great if Republicans would actually pass—or at least allow votes—on these bills. That would be a nice start.

  • Itsjstmeagain Merritt Island, Fl
    July 12, 2014 6:20 a.m.

    Not too many days ago, Boehner said the President has shown no leadership. I beg to differ, when the Congress sits on its hands for years and the President moves out to resolve difficult problem that is leadership. Saying he doesn't adhere to the Constitution is laughable, they have not done their job since Obama's first election. Remember McConnell comment about making sure this is a one term President, the cannon fodder for that strategy is the American people.
    Agree or disagree with the President as adults to resolve the issues of this country but when the Congress is in a playpen whining about little Billy took my toy truck is not right. We have an Adult now, one of the GOP's own making.

  • wrz Phoenix, AZ
    July 11, 2014 6:37 p.m.

    @Loconic:
    "Those groups are not working in sync."

    Call it what you will. The end result is the same... illegals pouring into the US and the American taxpayer picking up the bill. And by the way, the $2.7 billion being requested by Barack Hussein Obama will go mostly for lawyers and judges in the judicial system. And of course bus and air fair to get the illegal children to their destination in the US... mom, dad, aunt, uncle, friend of the family... you name it.

    "Don't try to create the customary liberal drama element."

    The liberals have created the drama themselves. I didn't do it. I merely looked at the big picture.

    "The only clever ones in this process are the human smugglers..."

    My point is that the human smugglers (coyotes) are using both sides of the transaction... the parents on the sending end and the US government on the receiving end. The net result is the same... millions of illegal immigrants and higher taxes for the American taxpayer.

    "This isn't rocket science."

    True. It's more like... take the US taxpayer to the cleaners.

  • Loconic Alpine, UT
    July 11, 2014 2:00 p.m.

    @ WTZ:

    Those groups are not working in sync. Don't try to create the customary liberal drama element. It fools very few people anymore. The only clever ones in this process are the human smugglers who have made tens of millions from this current group of nearly 60k "refugees" so far in this year alone. BThe results are still the same. The country is starting to get flooded, but not by voters.... just welfare cases.

    This isn't rocket science. Don't be so naive. Do a bit of studying and find out what these illegals are telling the border agents after they turn themselves in. It verifies exactly what I previously wrote.

  • wrz Phoenix, AZ
    July 11, 2014 11:37 a.m.

    @Loconic:
    "These illegals are simply walking onto American soil and then turning themselves in to be processed. That is what their human smugglers [coyotes] and their parents have instructed them to do."

    And US government (border agents, DHS/HHS) picks it up from there. What a combination! Parents, border patrol, coyotes, US government working in sync to flood the country with democratic voters. Very, very clever.

  • Loconic Alpine, UT
    July 11, 2014 9:43 a.m.

    @ FT:

    Do you actually think the border is secure because "the flood of immigrants is being caught and detained"?
    Wow. You need to get on board. Read, watch or listen to the news... do something to get informed to what's been happening with this border crisis.

    These illegals are simply walking onto American soil and then turning themselves in to be processed. That is what their human smugglers and their parents have instructed them to do. It's almost effortless. They know they will then be sent (flown or by bus) anywhere they want to go in the USA and the American taxpayer foots the bill.

    What a scam they have going on. And it all originated with Obama's personal version of the Dream Act he made law by his June 2012 Executive Order after Congress wouldn't pass the amnesty based immigration reform bill he wanted.

    Granted, that Executive Order didn't explicitly allow the illegal minors to do what they are now doing. But it create a loophole that they are currently taking advantage of. He could simply issue another Executive order to rescind the one creating the problem. But he hasn't for political reasons.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    July 11, 2014 9:39 a.m.

    pragmatist
    you don't know how many times I have tried to respond to the outright lies, distortions, partisan attacks, personal attacks, hate speach, etc coming from the left only to have the DN block my comments

    you mean

    emails have NOT been deleted?

    mexican drug gang gun sales and Bengazhi etc ad infinitum have/are NOT been(ing) covered up?

    BO NEVER attacks repubs?

    This is the most illogical, confused, and childish statement.

    What the South American families are being told are out right lies and has no basis in fact. Now explain to me how that's Obama's fault.

    OK
    BO launched partisan attacks against the GOP for blocking his open borders policy. SA families see him as wanting open borders, and he has done little to discourage them believing that. Sure, he has told them to stay home, but his actions - NOT sending them home and LETTING them STAY are telling them otherwise. THAT is how is it BO's fault. When you are known to be unfamiliar with the truth, do NOT be surprised when people do not believe you.

    Grow up lefties. learn to take it if you want to dish it out.

  • Tators Logan, UT
    July 11, 2014 8:38 a.m.

    If Obama is interesting in doing whatever he can to help the situation ASAP, he would've already ordered the National Guard to the regions most effected to work with border control agents who are currently overwhelmed and having to be baby-sitters instead of guarding the borders.

    Adding 10,000 National Guard members to assist wouldn't effect the budget. They are already being paid from existing previously approved budget. They could keep the illegals from reaching American soil and thus not need to process and then take care of them. It's becoming nearly impossible to find housing to maintain their ever growing numbers.

    The GOP in the House of Representatives has not been doing nothing, as lefties like to claim. They have submitted multiple bills to the Senate to address specific immigration issues and Harry Reid won't even bring the bills up for vote. Instead, he declares them DOA upon arrival... because they originate from Republicans and he doesn't want them to receive any political credit when something actually works. National voting is soon.

    Liberals such as GaryO, pragmatisferlife and FT need to actually read and do research before offering more rhetoric-based comments.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    July 11, 2014 7:27 a.m.

    All Obama wants to do is squander more money, period! Who would trust Obama to do ANYTHING he says? No accountability whatsoever in securing the borders, none, zero, zip, nada! Invite them in with promises of amnesty and whine about needing more money for the crisis HE created!

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    July 11, 2014 6:55 a.m.

    Congress makes laws ad the President is to carry out those laws through his executive office. Congress passed the ACA and the President signed his own flawed bill he asked Congress to pass and then read it. The problem with a man elected who was art of community organizing with government money, deep pockets. He doesn't know about profit lines only deficit and making it bigger.

  • wrz Phoenix, AZ
    July 11, 2014 1:36 a.m.

    @pragmatistferlife:
    "A Republican party that has no interest at all in solving problems."

    Let's take a look...

    Barack Hussein Obama's Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) entices children from Central American countries to the US by the hundreds of thousands. And DACA is against US immigration law.

    Parents of the illegal children pay thousands to Mexican coyotes to get their children transported to the US border. There the Obama administration (DHS & HHS) takes over, receiving the illegals, feeding and housing them, then busing them to close relatives or families here. Mission accomplished.

    The Obama administration and the Mexican coyotes make very effective partners.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    July 11, 2014 12:10 a.m.

    The semi-official GOP line: DO something, Mr, President, I mean, Barry! We demand that you DO something! BTW, don't count on us to actually PAY for anything you plan to DO.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    July 10, 2014 4:25 p.m.

    Hey Idablu -

    "I am sick and tired of the "Do Nothing Congress" label coming from the ignorant Left."

    I bet you are.

    And it's not only Leftists . . . We Moderates are also very aware of the fact that this same Do-Nothing Congress has been chained down by what passes for Right Wing ideology these days.

    "Conservatives" in Congress apparently can do Nothing of value for this nation. They only seem to be able to offer complaints, remonstrations, and attempts to shift the blame.

    That Conservative inaction, folks, is IDENTICAL to Conservatives in action.

    Tragic, isn't it?

  • Mack2828 Ft Thomas, KY
    July 10, 2014 4:22 p.m.

    SharpHooks, I agree with you, the republicans do resist everything that the president tries to do. I believe it is for two reasons.

    1. They genuinely disagree with his approach to solving problems.

    2. He lacks the interpersonal skill set persuade them to change their mind.

    Being a poor leader, he has never put in the time and energy to build relationships with the republicans. Now is the time when he needs their cooperation but he has invested Zero amount of capital in the relationship bank.

    It is really sad to watch him these past few months. Given time he may have been a good senator, but frankly he is just not a leader.

    The electorate overlooked the fact that he had never in his life lead a single organization of any kind and gave him the job of leading the most difficult to run organization on the planet. We are seeing the results. And it is painful to watch.

  • Vanceone Provo, UT
    July 10, 2014 3:56 p.m.

    You know what Obama's request contains? Funds for forest fire fighting, among other pork items. Why in the world should Congress roll over and pass yet another Obama wish list that has little to do with the claimed program?

    Of course, say the liberals, it's all the evil Republicans fault, and Saint Barry, the Messiah Incarnate, cannot possibly do anything wrong. It's only the devils who oppose Him that prevent utopia!

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    July 10, 2014 2:31 p.m.

    @ Truth
    One of the reasons why the GOP continues to lose national elections is because they live in an alternative reality sustained by Talk Radio and Fox News.
    "Polls show Obama is tanking and was graded just last week the worst POYUS since WWII......the GOP is going to sweep the senate and bolster the congress and Obama can go back to lying and palying golf!"
    This recent poll that conservatives keep refering to is exactly that, a poll. And when you dig into the poll you see that 90% of Republicans picked BO as the worst President while the Democrats had so many terrible Republican presidents to choose from they split their vote 3 ways between Bush, Bush, and Nixon. BO still has a 40% approval rating and only 18 months ago Americans decided he was a better choice than an ex-Govenor from Massachuetss who left office with a 33% approval rating and he could not even carry his home state. BO's not going anywhere and either is the Democratically controlled senate for another 2 years. The only ones that don't believe that are the ones who continue to live in the FOX hole.

  • mightyhunterhaha Kaysville, UT
    July 10, 2014 2:27 p.m.

    @sharphooks

    "All I ever hear from the GOP is criticism, and they do nothing except gripe" and you don't hear the same from the President?

    The Republicans put forth proposals and they are ignored or criticized by the Senate Dems or the Pres. The problem is not Republican! The Problem is not Democrat! The problem is America. We have become so polarized that you are seen as evil if you try and compromise or even talk with the other party.

    The Republicans like to throw out Reagan but not one Republican truly compares. He would talk with Tip O'Neil and work on compromise.

    Dems like to throw out names like Kennedy, Roosevelt, Lincoln but they don't understand compromise either.

    Compromise = Willingness to accept (not like) 70% of a proposal.

    America has the worst President, Senate and House in it's history. They all share equal blame. America's problem is; instead of removing the knuckleheads; we keep support all of them and then complain when nothing is done. We need 2 new parties that can share differing views and work together. That will make things better. America just needs to have the courage to make the change.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    July 10, 2014 2:13 p.m.

    Sharp Hooks says...Look at the content of the notes garnering the most "likes" and that of those with fewer, or none.

    That proves only one thing......that the gop is working while the Libs sit on their collective all day blogging!

    Polls show Obama is tanking and was graded just last week the worst POYUS since WWII......the GOP is going to sweep the senate and bolster the congress and Obama can go back to lying and palying golf!

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    July 10, 2014 1:55 p.m.

    The track record of more money/more government is not all that great.
    I'd tell Obama NO as well.

  • San Diego Orem, UT
    July 10, 2014 1:52 p.m.

    It's good to hear Obama say he is interested in solving the problem. He has been in office now almost 6 years and has only created massive problems. I can't think of one that he has solved.

  • IDC Boise, ID
    July 10, 2014 1:37 p.m.

    Obama's idea is to throw more money at a broken system. Tell aliens we will give amnesty to their children and then blame republicans when children start showing up at the border.

    Congress can't get anything done because of a democratic senate and president. All the democrats can do is blame Bush and congress. Democrats have 2/3rds of the power, the fault is squarely on their shoulders.

  • SharpHooks Sandy, UT
    July 10, 2014 1:17 p.m.

    Look at the content of the notes garnering the most "likes" and that of those with fewer, or none.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    July 10, 2014 1:10 p.m.

    Boehner should just cry. He's not going to do anything helpful or useful.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    July 10, 2014 12:52 p.m.

    throwing billions at a terrible Obama policy fixes nothing...absoultely nothing ...and that is what the GOP and many Democrat's are saying. The REAL immediate solution it to get these kids safely home to their home country ASAP. The GOP also have a valid point in asking the president to cut other of his pet programs to get the billions he needs for this problem seeing that HE alone created this border mess. In the real world when you create a mess you clean the mess up and not go barking at others to do it for you....but that's not the Barack way. Barack creates messes then blames others. Classic Barack.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    July 10, 2014 12:51 p.m.

    I am sick and tired of the "Do Nothing Congress" label coming from the ignorant Left. They have no interest in trying to put out the many fires of turmoil in the world created by poor policy from this poor excuse of a president. The Left is only interested in protecting the guy they elected from criticism at any cost. Republicans and Congress have come up with several solutions to the mess Obama has created only to get blocked by Harry Reid in the Senate or Obama with the veto pen. He creates a porous immigration policy where unsupervised minors are coming in droves and he simply ignores it. He is a pathetic excuse for a leader. His MO?: throw more money at every problem and blame the Republicans.

    Just because you voted for him doesn't make him a good president. No more than voting for Bush made him a good president. How about we start looking out for what is best for America instead of being so concerned with what is best for Obama?

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    July 10, 2014 12:49 p.m.

    "Boehner, McConnell blast Obama border request"

    Are we really surprised?

    Republicans are outraged that illegal aliens/refugees are surging over the border, but they conveniently forget that they INSISTED on sequester, which is still in effect, and that necessitates that overburdened border security must do much more with much less funding.

    Republicans have a habit of blaming the consequences of their numerous mistakes on anybody and everybody else.

    . . . No surprise there.

  • Cleetorn Fuaamotu, Tonga
    July 10, 2014 12:41 p.m.

    All of this political posturing has nothing to do with immigration reform and everything to do with politics. Most of the commenters here point their fingers at the Republicans and cry “Foul!” However, both you and I both know very well that if the shoe were on the other foot, it would be the same thing in reverse. If Mitt had been elected and put forth a plan to stem the flood of illegals, all the Democrats would be demeaning it and shrieking, “No, no, no!” and offering no alternative solution.

    This is not either a Republican or a Democrat problem. It is a political problem and as long our representatives keep shouting at each other and failing to put their heads together and work an equitable solution, NOTHING will continue to get done. It will be business as usual and we will continue to teeter on the precipice until all the rhetoric pushes us over.

    And while we are disappearing into the abyss, you and I also know what will happen on that ride. The finger-pointing will continue as to who pushed us over and we will reach our magnanimous end full of our self-righteousness.

    Nice!

  • JimInSLC Salt Lake City, UT
    July 10, 2014 12:38 p.m.

    All border states need to call up their National Guard. Round up all immigrants crossing the border and put them on a military transport and fly them directly to a base in south america where their parents can pick them up. This solution may sound uncaring, but welcoming them with open arms into this country will only make the problem worse.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    July 10, 2014 12:38 p.m.

    If the border wasn't secure how are all the flood of immigrants being caught and detained? Many in this new flood are children, not drug smugglers or criminals.
    BO's approval ratings may be around 40% but that's 4 times the GOP's approval rating. You know why? Because our President is an activist trying to get things done, instead of a Monday morning, arm chair complainer that can't even settle their own problems inside the GOP.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    July 10, 2014 12:31 p.m.

    "I'm not interested in photo ops," Obama shot back

    HAHAHAHA

    Yeah, the Pope is Jewish.

    "The money is intended to add immigration judges, detention facilities, aid for the children and teens arriving here without their parents"

    But instead will be used to delete more emails, pay for more cover-ups, and partisan attacks.

    BO's request is purely POLITCAL. NONE of this can possibly be in place until AFTER this fall's election, and most not until after the 2016 election.

    "Many...report hearing rumors that once here, they would be allowed to stay."

    BO can deny those rumors all he wants, but his policies have led to those rumors.

    Sharphooks
    What, exactly, does Boehner, or in fact ANY republican ever do to help/assist/lead?

    Preventing BO from doing MORE damage is of great help and probably the MOST important things they can do.

    Furry, see the above paragraph

    Pragmatist
    This has to be one of the saddest situations in modern history. A dem party whose only interest in problems is to create then exploit them for political gain.

    JD Jones,
    No, what is obvious is BO and the dems are doing exactly what you accuse the GOP of

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    July 10, 2014 12:06 p.m.

    Why isn't the border secure?

    Because Congress has continually failed to fund more effective barriers and has refused to do anything that would actually solve the problem. This goes back long, long before Obama.

    Republicans complain and yowl, but offer NOTHING of substance to solutions. They hope that we will all forget that the law that is preventing Obama from acting came from GW Bush, who was a Republican.

    Frightened Democrats in Congress join in because they are afraid that hate radio will and the Republican propaganda machine might convince people that they are supporting Obama if they try to do anything to actually solve this mess.

    About the only thing more frightening and disgusting than the GOP's idiocy in all this is the fact that most of those clowns will be re-elected.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    July 10, 2014 11:52 a.m.

    In other words, those on the far right are trying to keep Obama from getting anything done, so they can complain that Obama didn't get anything done. Business as usual for Boehner, McConnell, et al.

  • AerilusMaximus Berryville, VA
    July 10, 2014 11:28 a.m.

    "What he appears to be asking for is a blank check — one that would allow him to sustain his current failed policy," said McConnell, R-Ky. "We want to make sure we actually get the right tools to help fix the problem. And that's not what we've seen so far from the president."

    Why should congress just hand out money without changes to the actual law?

    It is the failed policy that got us into this problem in the first place. I thought the president said the border was secure?

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    July 10, 2014 11:23 a.m.

    Politicians on BOTH sides of the aisle are frustrated that Obama doesn't at least try to stem the tide of illegal trespassers.

    WHY should they give him more money when they have no idea whether he'll actually use it wisely? He has a lousy track record of upholding laws that he doesn't like.

    Why should we trust him this time?

    ANY logical person would "raise their eyebrows" if they were told that it takes 80k$ to deport one individual!

  • cocosweet Sandy, UT
    July 10, 2014 11:22 a.m.

    What a no win situation... Send the minors back and where do they go? Back to violence? Back to homes that may or may not exist? Keep them here and how much will it cost to feed, house and educate them?

    Absolutely disgusted with Congress as a whole. No one offers decent immigration reform.. just whine whine whine and point fingers. A pox on both their houses.

  • Schnee Salt Lake City, UT
    July 10, 2014 11:18 a.m.

    "saying Obama caused the problem and now wants Congress to sign off on more of the same."

    I thought he didn't want Obama making more executive orders...

  • JD Jones Salt Lake City, UT
    July 10, 2014 11:11 a.m.

    Republicans would have favored Obama's plan if they had come up with it themselves. Republicans are more concerned about politics than they are about solving the problem. Isn't this obvious?

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    July 10, 2014 11:05 a.m.

    This has to be one of the saddest situations in modern history. A Republican party that has no interest at all in solving problems.

    There's wide swaths of agreement across both parties and across the nation on this problem and immigration as a whole and their first reaction is NO,No, No...it's the Presidents fault.

    Disgusting.

  • SharpHooks Sandy, UT
    July 10, 2014 10:50 a.m.

    What, exactly, does Boehner, or in fact ANY republican ever do to help/assist/lead? All I ever hear from the GOP is criticism, and they do nothing except gripe.
    This is exactly why we will have another democratic President, and likely for the next 8 years.
    Know what's killing the republican party?
    Republicans.