"I'm interested in solving the problem". My suggestion = 60,000
illegals x $300 one way air fare = $18,000,000. Use the pen and the phone and
save $3,700,000,000 minus 18,000,000 = $3,682,000,000. Use the savings to help
put 100,000,000 Americans back to work.
I used to think that some people here were just brainwashed to the point of
Obama-worshiping obsession, but after reading these comments I think they might
actually be conservatives trying to make liberals look bad by making
unbelievable claims (like Earnest Bass on BYU articles).@LOU
Montana, I don't think anybody's going to fall for the
"Republicans don't want the immigration laws enforced" story.@Ken12s, Obama is the KING of the blame game. I feel sorry for whoever
gets elected president in 2016; they will have to follow the worst president in
history hands down.
ken12Bad timing? Obama bears no responsibility? The biggest mistake
was electing Obama, period! He is completely incapable of governing, leading,
and managing. His lack of experience is glaringly obvious and the mess he's
created is ten times that of Bush.You want to fix the problem?
Forget this theoretical liberal, progressive agenda and come back to reality!
And frankly everyone is sick of hearing that it is Bush's fault. Bush
should take responsibility for the things he screwed up and there are many. But
to think that Obama's scandals, gross mismanagement, lack of leadership,
and on and on are Bush's fault is mindnumbingly ridiculous!What
we need are clear thinking Americans who love this country, aren't ashamed
of what we've accomplished, and who want to see us return to what the
Framers of the Constitution imagined. Under Obama, this has become a lost dream.
If we continue to go down the path Obama is taking us down, America will be
unrecognizable. We are currently very close to that reality. This would be
devastating for the rest of the world
Gary O-I have no idea a clear thinking person could defend Obama? He
is proving at every bend that he is an amateur and doesn't have any clue
how to lead. Do you think that all of these scandals and controversies are some
right-wing conspiracy? I do think Obama thinks so. I think his handlers shield
him from facts and reality. I have no doubt his mission statement is, "The
ends justify the means."Unfortunately that resonates onto the
regular folks like you. We hear about low information voters, those who want to
live in an alternative universe, or who live in a theoretic world. The fact is
the current president is the worst president since WWII. In fact, when Obama
leaves office, which couldn't come fast enough for our countries sake, we
will learn just how bad he was, and how the only thing he really cared about was
his own political ambitions.I will leave you now to your
alternative, theoretical universe...
Obama's biggest mistake was being elected president after Bush! Bush
started two un-winnable wars, deregulated the financial industry leading to the
great rescission of 2008, and passed a law in 2008 making it nearly impossible
to quickly deport anyone from a Central American country..... No republican
wants to talk about any of this stuff. They all have the mind set that if
anything goes wrong you don't try to figure out what caused the problem and
what do we do to fix it. We just need to find someone to blame it
on....it's basic management 101. All Obama can be blamed for is bad timing!
Search the Texas papers for pictures. Some are still getting photo's even
with Obama's gag order and refusal to let Congressmen, in the states
affected, see first hand what's going on. Obama doesn't
want to go to the border, because the press would follow him and take pictures.
Children are in the minority of those coming here, adults are being relocated
also. Amnesty causes more problems, and Obama is being dishonest
Shucks The blight called the blame game has now infiltrated Utah. How productive
and how stunting.
In one story we cringe when we see the reading scores of American children. But
Obama's wizard Nancy Pelosi years ago said, "Pass it then read it".
The constituents of many congressmen and women are indirectly saying they do not
trust the so-called administration because of pork abuse. 4 billions$ for the
border which you can bet will be spent on air. Reminds one of the current
Transportation Trust Fund Act which Obama would like to sneak through right
now.There is more than meets the eye, that is if the press
doesn't hide it from us.
SAS....Your sarcasm is dually noted.The Constitution defines
what the President can and cannot do regarding his governmental powers and what
effects large groups of his constituents. A press conference or nose scratching
doesn't meet that definition. But misuse of Execute Orders is one of the
things that does fit that definition. Obama has a habit of skating
all over the edges of Constitutional definitions of proper power usage. That is
becoming a subject of interest and debate of many law professors and
teachers.One thing is not debatable. He has taken an oath to uphold
all our laws. He is not doing that regarding the border.There is no
question the country and world is in overall worse shape now than when Obama
took office; Gar prices have literally doubled.The federal deficit
has doubled.Average household income has dropped thousands of dollars.There are more war conflicts around the world. America no longer stands
up for it's historic beliefs regarding world leadership.Our allies
have quit counting on or believing in us.The NSA has taken away our
personal freedoms of privacy. And the list goes on and on.
This is Chicago Politics at its best. Invite thousands of illegal immigrants
into the Country and then offer to fix the problem for "just" $4 billion
dollars. Those children were told that they had permission to enter. Is that
why no news reporters are allowed to question them? Is that why no Republican
members of Congress are allowed to visit the camps? Is that why Obama will not
schedule time to go to the border?His proposal stinks and
that's not the only thing that stinks in Washington.
In 2008, President George W. Bush signed into law the William Wilberforce
Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act, which said that
unaccompanied minors from countries non-contiguous with the United States (i.e.,
countries other than Mexico and Canada) are afforded greater legal protections.
When a child shows up at the border from Mexico or Canada, for instance, a
Border Patrol agent has the legal authority to decide whether that child may be
eligible to stay in the country. Republicans backed that law, and
now they are the ones who don’t want to enforce it!The
so-called “immigration border crisis” is neither about immigration
nor the border. There are two separate crises that Republicans (and a few
liberals) are conflating for political reasons.Instead of hurling
attacks and misinformation, it would be great if Republicans would actually
pass—or at least allow votes—on these bills. That would be a nice
There are two factors which contributed to this crisis. 1. There is
a legitimate humanitarian crisis in Central America (like Guatemala) which holds
the highest murder rates in the world. Your likelihood of surviving to adulthood
is something like one in six, and the law is enforced by roving gangs of armed
thugs. Families are genuinely desperate to save their children from a fate of
violent death or violent crimes. 2. The Obama Administration
directed policies of immigration and deportation courts to focus on criminal
offenders and implied it would not direct deportation of children, especially
those who had some relative in the country legitimately. Whether it was the
intent or not, the perception among those living in violent central America is
that if they can get their children to the USA we won't do anything about
it. This was a serious snafu, as it had the unintended consequence
of a mass migration of desperate parents sending their children out of
harm's way. Sadly Central America only becomes more uncivilized as the best
of its people flee and the violent offenders gain more territory by their
surrender. Either way, we pay here or in foreign aide.
This is not about President Obama this is about the Republican Congress doing
nothing! Republicans welcome the flood of illegal aliens because this is their
future cheap labor.
I just realized: nowhere in the Constitution is the President given the power to
hold press conferences. Press conferences aren't even mentioned.Yet Obama keeps having them, hoping that the media will pay attention to him,
and ignore his lack of true leadership.The Constitution also
doesn't give the President the power to scratch his nose.Surely, our republic is hanging by a thread.
You know what? You all made this mess Obama and congress by ignoring it,
dragging your feet and playing politics. Everyone on here playing all the same
old political cards are also nothing more then part of the problem. This is not
a game this effects real people in real ways and it time to stop playing games.
It is time for Obama and congress to lock themselves in a room until they figure
out what our response is going to be and get it done. No more photo ops no more
Obama created this mess by executive order june 15, 2012Heres the
story in the NYT dated June 15, 2012Hundreds of thousands of
illegal immigrants who came to the United States as children will be allowed to
remain in the country without fear of deportation and able to work, under an
executive action the Obama administration announced on Friday.Administration officials said the president used existing legal authority to
make the broad policy change, which could temporarily benefit more than 800,000
young people. He did not consult with Congress, where Republicans have generally
opposed measures to benefit illegal immigrants.
O owns this mess...he created it by not enforcing the laws already on the
books.......ENFORCE the law! build the wall and send the illegals home.....Problem solved....More laws are just more laws that Obama
will not ENFORCE.....we have enough laws.....reunite these children with their
parents back home...NOW!
The look of the intellectuals in the room, Perry and I believe the neo-con judge
says it all! Then we have the statement our President made and I
quote..."I'm not interested in photo-ops. I'm interested in
solving the problem". Now let's all hear the neo-con spin regarding
this fact. Our President is damned if he does and damned if he does not!
Hey "Truth" and Copacetic -Thank you for two more fact free
posts.Yes, I know, that stuff flies in Right Wing La La Land . . .
But here in the Land of Reality, it falls flat.
Bush didn't create KATRINA......But Obama did create this Crisis! He owns
it and his numbers are tanking....he is not only the worst POTUS since WWII, he
is worst ever!He has a pen and a phone? Why does he need the
GOP?.....never stopped this lawless goof-ball before? Obama, has
given up golf in this crisis, and has replaced it with playing pool and drinking
beer!Giving him a blank check will only get he and Michelle carte
blanche to take another $100 million dollar vacation!
@ GaryO:Very similarly to you, Obama has rarely put anything into
it's proper perspective. That's the reason his popularity in the polls
is at record lows. His lack of perspective and any meaningful action is obvious
even to low information voters. Why are you not yet able to see that? He has a bad habit of creating chaos all over the political landscape. And
rather than solving anything, it's much easier to keep casting all the
blame on Congress. It's little wonder he keeps being mentioned as possibly
the worst president in the entire history of our country. Do you see
how that works now?It's interesting that Obama has never missed
an opportunity for any prior photo-op. But this time, his fingerprints are all
over this crisis, so he is doing everything he can to try to distance himself
from it.Asking $4,000,000,000 to address this issue is a
ridiculously excessive amount. It comes to over $75,000 per child. Only the
government could be that inefficient and wasteful. They should be able to build
a huge, impenetrable fence across the entire 1200+ mile border for less than
" President Barack Obama sought to recast the political debate over a flood
of young migrants as a question of Republican willingness to tackle the problem,
not his decision to skip a chance to view the crisis first-hand."In other words, Obama is putting things in their proper perspective.Whether or not Obama views "the crisis first hand" is IMMATERIAL to
the crisis.The Republican proclivity for not doing their job IS
pertinent to the Crisis, however.Do you see how that works now?Irony Guy -Good point. Republicans are quite often fact free
when it comes to their criticisms.
Irony GuyYou really want to embarrass yourself by claiming that
Obama has stiffened border controls more than any other President when this
current situation is going on? Undocumented immigration is at a net zero? Any
more whoppers you want to pass on. That is about as dumb as me trying to claim
that Bush did not get us into two wars during his Presidency. BTW
I'd look like I was eating a pickle too if I had to spend even a minute in
the same room as Obama. Either that or I'd need an air sickness bag.BTW2 They count any person turned away at the border as a deportation.
That's why his numbers are high there. And that is not what most believe
to be real deportations.
Securing border means putting immigration up for vote. In poker, it is calling
Mountanman (sic) is fact free today. Obama has stiffened border controls more
than any other president. He has deported far more people than any other
president. Undocumented immigration is now at net zero. Right wing
won't do anything until the "border is secure." That means they
will never do anything because they get to define the meaning of
"secure." "Net zero" is as secure is as it's ever going to
get! BTW, hilarious photo. Perry looks like he's eating a
It is funny to look back at the heat Bush took at only flying over the Katrina
disaster instead of actually getting his feet on the gound. Now we have Obama,
not even flying over the scene on the border and saying precisly what the Bush
people said about not really needing to be there to know what is going on.
However, remember, Obama conviently went to New Jersey to be seen on the ground
just before the election. This President and his whole administration is full
Obama is once again being totally disingenuous. He blames congress for not
passing his "comprehensive immigration" but refuses to enforce existing
immigration laws. We don't need more useless laws on the book, we need to
enforce existing immigration laws, period! Obama created this problem by
promising amnesty for anyone who is here illegally. That is why they come and
will keep coming! Illegal alien equals undocumented Democrat voter!